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Jul 5, 2012 14:01:23   #
skidooman Loc: Minnesota
 
[quote=GoofyNewfie]
dhelix33 wrote:
I am not included in the blanket and absolute "ALL" statement; "...All others are attempts at PP by others to fix it...".

I believe it is just plain rude to post- process someone else's work - I did not and would not. I did however provide samples of my own work to share how I addressed the issue of illumination imbalance in a shoot I did for a client.
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I don't think he directed the comment at you, just the others who re-posted the original photo.

Unless the poster asks and allows downloading, I wouldn't take liberties with the photos either.
I am not included in the blanket and absolute &quo... (show quote)


Thank you,,,that is exactly what I meant. I was referring to docrob's post specifically, it's why I quoted him. Maybe I should've been far more specific in my post,,, and say that all other postings of the image are attempts by others at PP. I wouldn't want to include you or anyone else with with a blanket and absolute ALL statement. If that's the way you took it (apparently) my apologies for getting you so worked up over nothing.

With regard to reposting someone elses images,,,, I wouldn't either,,unless they asked for me to do so. I've seen reworks by some people that are beyond crappy,,,I can't believe some of what I see,,although it may be good intentioned. I've had it done to me, and I have tried to be nice about it,,,but my days of being nice on here are just about over, as many people just want to pick fights over nothing.

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Jul 5, 2012 14:11:22   #
jenny Loc: in hiding:)
 
CaptainC wrote:
Harvey wrote:
Yes - a spot meter on the ladies face would have produce a much better photo.


Yes, but using spot metering should - this case - be done in manual. Meter the face- set the camera to that setting, then recompose to shoot. Otherwise we have the face in the middle of the frame.

OR - shoot in Av or Tv, but after metering and focusing on the face, make sure that the exposure and focus lock are active so you can recompose.

In any case, AUTO is the worst possible mode.

In my opinion, the best approach would be to use an incident meter and then bracket half a stop or so either side.
quote=Harvey Yes - a spot meter on the ladies fac... (show quote)


* * * The caption is never wrong. Note that in using an incident meter he would,however, be still making his own adjustments in bracketing. Cam1017 is also right in making small adjustments. Everyone will have to make small adjustments no matter which way it is done,could also be with small increments of exp. compensation.

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Jul 5, 2012 14:28:30   #
dhelix33 Loc: Live in Raleigh, NC - Grew up in Teaneck, NJ
 
Appreciate the clarification, however you are incorrect that you somehow got me, "...so worked up over nothing...". I was simply expressing my perception and opinion of what was being communicated in this thread. You will not see me writing angry message responses in all in capitals, not worth the effort dude. I learned not to take myself (or other folks) too seriously in these type of open online forums many years ago...

Cheers!
Greg

[quote=skidooman]
GoofyNewfie wrote:
dhelix33 wrote:
I am not included in the blanket and absolute "ALL" statement; "...All others are attempts at PP by others to fix it...".

I believe it is just plain rude to post- process someone else's work - I did not and would not. I did however provide samples of my own work to share how I addressed the issue of illumination imbalance in a shoot I did for a client.
quote]

I don't think he directed the comment at you, just the others who re-posted the original photo.

Unless the poster asks and allows downloading, I wouldn't take liberties with the photos either.
I am not included in the blanket and absolute &quo... (show quote)


Thank you,,,that is exactly what I meant. I was referring to docrob's post specifically, it's why I quoted him. Maybe I should've been far more specific in my post,,, and say that all other postings of the image are attempts by others at PP. I wouldn't want to include you or anyone else with with a blanket and absolute ALL statement. If that's the way you took it (apparently) my apologies for getting you so worked up over nothing.

With regard to reposting someone elses images,,,, I wouldn't either,,unless they asked for me to do so. I've seen reworks by some people that are beyond crappy,,,I can't believe some of what I see,,although it may be good intentioned. I've had it done to me, and I have tried to be nice about it,,,but my days of being nice on here are just about over, as many people just want to pick fights over nothing.
quote=dhelix33 I am not included in the blanket a... (show quote)

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Jul 5, 2012 14:48:32   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
You are right on all counts here - thanks for your well put info as a pro.
Harvey
dhelix33 wrote:
As a professional photographer, I have shared workshops and guidance on digital imaging - using my own work as examples guidance. I take the path of a photographer who is experienced with light writing, and provide corrective suggestions on how to improve a person's composition skills, as opposed to amateurishly (as you identify yourself) over processing an image that someone has blown.

Harvey wrote:
I think this fellow was asking for help & suggestions - I feel a suggestion warrants an example if one is available.
My PP included - unmask sharpen>image > adjustment> shadow&highlights( moving the sliders to my acceptance)>selecting the two major green areas & adjusting the color.

An Amateur job - but then I am an amateur.
Harvey
As a professional photographer, I have shared work... (show quote)

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Jul 7, 2012 14:01:11   #
cony25
 
I want to thank everybody for giving me their advice, and helping in the post production of the picture....I need to do it right the first time....when I am taking the picture....I will measuring the light on her face next time...and see what happens....[quote=skidooman]
GoofyNewfie wrote:
dhelix33 wrote:
I am not included in the blanket and absolute "ALL" statement; "...All others are attempts at PP by others to fix it...".

I believe it is just plain rude to post- process someone else's work - I did not and would not. I did however provide samples of my own work to share how I addressed the issue of illumination imbalance in a shoot I did for a client.
quote]

I don't think he directed the comment at you, just the others who re-posted the original photo.

Unless the poster asks and allows downloading, I wouldn't take liberties with the photos either.
I am not included in the blanket and absolute &quo... (show quote)


Thank you,,,that is exactly what I meant. I was referring to docrob's post specifically, it's why I quoted him. Maybe I should've been far more specific in my post,,, and say that all other postings of the image are attempts by others at PP. I wouldn't want to include you or anyone else with with a blanket and absolute ALL statement. If that's the way you took it (apparently) my apologies for getting you so worked up over nothing.

With regard to reposting someone elses images,,,, I wouldn't either,,unless they asked for me to do so. I've seen reworks by some people that are beyond crappy,,,I can't believe some of what I see,,although it may be good intentioned. I've had it done to me, and I have tried to be nice about it,,,but my days of being nice on here are just about over, as many people just want to pick fights over nothing.
quote=dhelix33 I am not included in the blanket a... (show quote)

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Jul 7, 2012 16:40:14   #
KathyinNH Loc: Kingston, NH
 
What would happen if they shot in Auto but pre focused on something that was equivalent to a middle gray then focus on the brides face. Wouldn't that work too.

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Jul 7, 2012 16:45:16   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
KathyinNH wrote:
What would happen if they shot in Auto but pre focused on something that was equivalent to a middle gray then focus on the brides face. Wouldn't that work too.


Don't confuse focus with exposure. Now if the camera has Exposure Lock capability, that could work - not a great way - but possible, I suppose. However, not sure if you are in Auto, that it would allow that. Not sure - my camera does not have Auto or I would give it a try.

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Jul 7, 2012 18:01:44   #
Xantoz Loc: Delaware
 
CaptainC wrote:
KathyinNH wrote:
What would happen if they shot in Auto but pre focused on something that was equivalent to a middle gray then focus on the brides face. Wouldn't that work too.


Don't confuse focus with exposure. Now if the camera has Exposure Lock capability, that could work - not a great way - but possible, I suppose. However, not sure if you are in Auto, that it would allow that. Not sure - my camera does not have Auto or I would give it a try.


Spent this hot day working on Photos from a few weeks ago for a wedding. Got creative with the 5d and decided to fire off some shots in auto under a huge tree. The sky was white the dress white the bride dark skin the groom light skin blond. I can only say for my outdoor shots under extream sun at noon and washed out skY auto saved my tail. Got lucky big time. They loved the shots. It never hurts to try every trick you know. After 40 years. The camera saved the day. Or I just decided to trust the camera for a change.

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Jul 23, 2012 09:06:06   #
gonate Loc: sacramento,calif
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
No matter how you meter you need to look at the first shot and see if it is too light or too dark and then adjust - look again and if not right adust some more. With my Nikon I just pusth the +/-button and spin the wheel to expose more or less. You also may want to use a reflector to put more light on her face. Most of the time I shoot in Apeture to control depth of field and let camera pick first sutter speed and after the test shot adjust from there. Lots of ways to skin a cat or take a picture. - Dave
No matter how you meter you need to look at the fi... (show quote)


Learn how to use the equpt. you have , you are underexposed when you get blue cast in your photo. check your setting's on your camera.

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Jul 23, 2012 09:53:23   #
KathyinNH Loc: Kingston, NH
 
Xantoz wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
KathyinNH wrote:
What would happen if they shot in Auto but pre focused on something that was equivalent to a middle gray then focus on the brides face. Wouldn't that work too.


Don't confuse focus with exposure. Now if the camera has Exposure Lock capability, that could work - not a great way - but possible, I suppose. However, not sure if you are in Auto, that it would allow that. Not sure - my camera does not have Auto or I would give it a try.


Spent this hot day working on Photos from a few weeks ago for a wedding. Got creative with the 5d and decided to fire off some shots in auto under a huge tree. The sky was white the dress white the bride dark skin the groom light skin blond. I can only say for my outdoor shots under extream sun at noon and washed out skY auto saved my tail. Got lucky big time. They loved the shots. It never hurts to try every trick you know. After 40 years. The camera saved the day. Or I just decided to trust the camera for a change.
quote=CaptainC quote=KathyinNH What would happen... (show quote)


I've tried that too when I seem to be having a problem and things aren't working. Sometimes it works sometimes not.

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Jul 25, 2012 12:11:14   #
gordnanaimo Loc: Vancouver Island
 
You have the best camera with a great lens under no curcumstance should you be using a professional comera in amature mode sorry auto mode. use your spot meter on the face. Your pose is great, your subject is beautiful, your juxtaposition is super. Your tool use is questionable.

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Jul 26, 2012 17:02:02   #
lost_found
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
No matter how you meter you need to look at the first shot and see if it is too light or too dark and then adjust - look again and if not right adust some more. With my Nikon I just pusth the +/-button and spin the wheel to expose more or less. You also may want to use a reflector to put more light on her face. Most of the time I shoot in Apeture to control depth of field and let camera pick first sutter speed and after the test shot adjust from there. Lots of ways to skin a cat or take a picture. - Dave
No matter how you meter you need to look at the fi... (show quote)


I agree, let the camera do the initial hard evaluation and then adjust accordingly. Sometimes I think we still think like film photographers where we did not know how the image would look and it cost to experiment. My new method is: shoot, evaluate, adjust and shoot again, edit. Then ps till your hearts desire. We don't think about most of the photos we see, even with all of their expensive equipment and knowledge, end up in ps before publication. We all strive to increase our percentage of keepers but there is no shame in shooting a bunch to get that one iconic image. It's the one that gets framed on the wall. Sports photographers shoot in bursts to get the right facial expression. They don't often sit in pray and squeeze off that perfect combination of content and context in a single shot. Sit and listen to press row you will quickly understand the difference between 3.5 and 9 fps.

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Jul 30, 2012 03:34:19   #
sixshooter Loc: constitution state
 
Please tell me these aren't some poor girls wedding photos!!??
Cony,that fancy camera comes with a built in learning tool.
You can set your image review to include a histogram,thats a little graph that maps your exposure.
Do some research on the elements of exposure...F stop,iso,and shutter speed.
Put your camera in manual and practice until you have mastered this essencial skill.
When shooting in bright sunlight it's not always easy to tell from the lcd screen if your image is properly exposed..the histogram is your best friend.
Your second best friend is a speedlite with a softbox.
just my 2 bits.

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