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Sep 13, 2017 16:52:05   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
A face only a mother could love. Can't wait for molting to end for the season.


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Sep 13, 2017 17:10:14   #
Tikva Loc: Waukesha, WI
 
It does look a little the worse for the wear. Thanks for sharing.

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Sep 13, 2017 17:10:28   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
It's still a pretty bird.

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Sep 13, 2017 18:55:00   #
vicksart Loc: Novato, CA -earthquake country
 
He's going to be a handsome fellow when his feathers finish coming in. This is kind of an "ugly duckling" phase, but your images of him are stunning.

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Sep 13, 2017 19:39:26   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
vicksart wrote:
He's going to be a handsome fellow when his feathers finish coming in. This is kind of an "ugly duckling" phase, but your images of him are stunning.


How do you know it is a male?

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Sep 13, 2017 20:32:28   #
vicksart Loc: Novato, CA -earthquake country
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
How do you know it is a male?


Apparently they share the same plumage, so it's really difficult to tell unless you can compare size. I may have made a faulty assumption. Anyway, "it's" going to be a pretty bird when "it" grows up.

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Sep 13, 2017 21:14:23   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Tikva wrote:
It does look a little the worse for the wear. Thanks for sharing.


Its temporary.

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Sep 13, 2017 21:15:19   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
It's still a pretty bird.


Thanks, it will eventually be.

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Sep 13, 2017 21:17:30   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
vicksart wrote:
Apparently they share the same plumage, so it's really difficult to tell unless you can compare size. I may have made a faulty assumption. Anyway, "it's" going to be a pretty bird when "it" grows up.


Thanks Vicki for the comments. They look the same to me but I have always assumed the males are more aggressive, but I could be wrong.

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Sep 13, 2017 21:17:58   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
vicksart wrote:
Apparently they share the same plumage, so it's really difficult to tell unless you can compare size. I may have made a faulty assumption. Anyway, "it's" going to be a pretty bird when "it" grows up.


I agree.

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Sep 13, 2017 21:24:34   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
vicksart wrote:
Apparently they share the same plumage, so it's really difficult to tell unless you can compare size. I may have made a faulty assumption. Anyway, "it's" going to be a pretty bird when "it" grows up.


It may very well be a male who identifies as a female and we should refer it as xe.

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Sep 13, 2017 21:28:12   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
vicksart wrote:
Apparently they share the same plumage, so it's really difficult to tell unless you can compare size. I may have made a faulty assumption. Anyway, "it's" going to be a pretty bird when "it" grows up.


Yes, it will be when the new feathers come in. I have several free range pet Blue Jays and many times the only real way to tell the difference between males and females is to observe them. There may be a size difference but not always. The rolls they play within the family structure is the best way to tell. Blue Jays mate for life and that have specific rolls. The males are the gatherers; they gather food and building materials. The females are the builders; they build the nest and keep an eye on the young both before and after hatching.
They are very intelligent and can be somewhat demanding. There have been many times when the feeders for the Blue Jays run out of food, mainly whole peanuts and sunflower seeds, and they will perch on my deck railing and let me know.

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Sep 14, 2017 06:42:45   #
J-SPEIGHT Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
joer wrote:
A face only a mother could love. Can't wait for molting to end for the season.


Nice shots Joe. Having a bad feather day.

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Sep 14, 2017 07:03:03   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
10MPlayer wrote:
It may very well be a male who identifies as a female and we should refer it as xe.


Thanks for the comments.

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Sep 14, 2017 07:05:25   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Yes, it will be when the new feathers come in. I have several free range pet Blue Jays and many times the only real way to tell the difference between males and females is to observe them. There may be a size difference but not always. The rolls they play within the family structure is the best way to tell. Blue Jays mate for life and that have specific rolls. The males are the gatherers; they gather food and building materials. The females are the builders; they build the nest and keep an eye on the young both before and after hatching.
They are very intelligent and can be somewhat demanding. There have been many times when the feeders for the Blue Jays run out of food, mainly whole peanuts and sunflower seeds, and they will perch on my deck railing and let me know.
Yes, it will be when the new feathers come in. I h... (show quote)


Very interesting and I have had similar observations. Thanks for the comments.

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