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Sep 11, 2017 19:34:43   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
Shot this yesterday at Shanksville from a window in the Visitors Center between the two tall walls. The brightness just above the wall seems to have confused my Sony. I've tried all the tricks I know to tone down that burst of light in the center of the image. Anyone have ideas?


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Sep 11, 2017 20:45:46   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
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Sep 11, 2017 22:43:28   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
"When posting in the Photo Analysis section, you must:
- Ask a specific question about fixing something particular you don't like about your photo. (Help with retaking the shot or with post-production techniques.)"

I apologize for apparently not being specific enough. Could someone please give me some help on PPing the bright white spot in the center of the image? I used luminosity masking without success.

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Sep 12, 2017 07:06:31   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
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Sep 12, 2017 07:42:29   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
That bright spot appears to be a reflection on the inside of the glass window. Winterrose (above) has done a pretty good job of getting rid of it. And, I don't think I can do any better. However, I will say that when you shoot through a window, get the lense as close to the glass as possible. That avoids the reflection altogether.

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Sep 12, 2017 08:02:00   #
kubota king Loc: NW , Pa.
 
I use photoshop , and have for many years . Not sure what you use . I download a copy of your photo to see what I could do with it before giving you an answer . The quickest way if you have PS or another program that can do selections is to select the whole sky area and replace it with another sky that isn't bleached out in areas like yours . That said , I have fixed all the areas that I saw that where bad in my eyes . Bleached out clouds , bright sky area , window reflection , and blueish color on wall in areas . Some areas in the sky were changed some . Anyone that didn't see the original photo would not no the difference . It would take to long to explain all the steps I used , that I did fairly quick because I have been using PS for a long time as I said but might be over whelming to someone that hasn't . If you are looking just for someone to tell you how to fix it on your own with what ever program you are using , sorry I could only gave you the sky replacement . And if you would like to see my changes to use , just let me know and I will post it , or I can delete it at your request along with your copy I downloaded . Sorry this is the best I can do.Tommy

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Sep 12, 2017 09:13:08   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
winterrose wrote:
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Good result--how did you achieve it?

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Sep 12, 2017 09:47:03   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
Gitchigumi wrote:
That bright spot appears to be a reflection on the inside of the glass window. Winterrose (above) has done a pretty good job of getting rid of it. And, I don't think I can do any better. However, I will say that when you shoot through a window, get the lense as close to the glass as possible. That avoids the reflection altogether.


Thanks for commenting and tweaking the image. Yes, there is a reflection (and I should have move closer to the glass), but the bright light I am concerned about is the sky just above the wall . I'm sure the Sony RX100 sensor was confused by the lighting. If I try to lessen the luminosity of that area the sky blue color corrects towards yellow for some reason.

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Sep 12, 2017 09:48:49   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
Thanks for giving it some improvement, winterrose. What software did you use? I use ACR, PS CS6 and Tony Kuyper's luminosity masking.

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Sep 12, 2017 09:49:42   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
kubota king wrote:
I use photoshop , and have for many years . Not sure what you use . I download a copy of your photo to see what I could do with it before giving you an answer . The quickest way if you have PS or another program that can do selections is to select the whole sky area and replace it with another sky that isn't bleached out in areas like yours . That said , I have fixed all the areas that I saw that where bad in my eyes . Bleached out clouds , bright sky area , window reflection , and blueish color on wall in areas . Some areas in the sky were changed some . Anyone that didn't see the original photo would not no the difference . It would take to long to explain all the steps I used , that I did fairly quick because I have been using PS for a long time as I said but might be over whelming to someone that hasn't . If you are looking just for someone to tell you how to fix it on your own with what ever program you are using , sorry I could only gave you the sky replacement . And if you would like to see my changes to use , just let me know and I will post it , or I can delete it at your request along with your copy I downloaded . Sorry this is the best I can do.Tommy
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Thanks for spending time on it, Tommy. I'd really like to see your result. There is no file attached.

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Sep 12, 2017 10:23:30   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
davefales wrote:
Thanks for spending time on it, Tommy. I'd really like to see your result. There is no file attached.

Aside from the reflections from not standing as close as you could to the window, the clouds are seriously overexposed - the highlights (clouds) are blown.

A camera rather than a cell phone (EXIF says it was a Samsung SM-G930V) would probably have worked better since you could have seen the blinkies or reviewed the histogram.

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Sep 12, 2017 10:42:45   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
selmslie wrote:


A camera rather than a cell phone (EXIF says it was a Samsung SM-G930V) would probably have worked better since you could have seen the blinkies or reviewed the histogram.


Old age is not for sissies. I thought I had shot that with my Sony...whose battery had died earlier in the day. You have really helped me to understand my problem: cell phone cameras have limitations for those lighting conditions. Oh, well.

Thanks to all.

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Sep 12, 2017 19:13:24   #
kubota king Loc: NW , Pa.
 
davefales wrote:
Thanks for spending time on it, Tommy. I'd really like to see your result. There is no file attached.


It is respectful to wait for the asking member to allow you to post a copy of their photo before posting , that is why you didn't see one from me until I got your ok to do so . Like I said in the other posting , the sky in that area is a little different , removed window reflection , and blue color casting on the wall . You can use this copy if you like , it is your photo . It's ok if there is something you don't like . Tommy


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Sep 12, 2017 20:34:55   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
Many thanks, Tommy. You really improved it. It will now be an even better memory of a hallowed place.

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Sep 13, 2017 04:10:30   #
kubota king Loc: NW , Pa.
 
davefales wrote:
Many thanks, Tommy. You really improved it. It will now be an even better memory of a hallowed place.


Your welcome , glad I could help. Since I try so many tools in PS when I do something like I did with your photo rather quickly if I don't like the immediate results as I am doing it . It makes it hard to remember what all I did to tell someone to help them learn . Some of the tools I used that I can remember where the paint brush ( which I use a lot in photoshop almost every day ) burn tool - dodge tool - select and fill tool together with a Wacom Tablet and Pen . Unlike many other members here on UHH using PS , I almost never use the Clone tool , don't like it's results on areas much bigger then a pencil eraser , very seldom every use Mask , or layers . I started out doing portraits on hot white press boards , where there wasn't any undo buttons , mask , layer tools etc . So I guess that is why I don't use them much and I have learned to do things faster without them . There are times I find layers helpful and mask too . Tommy

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