and this is the reason I'm not in business
Jun 27, 2012 10:45:48 #
So I did this cake smash/1 year birthday session for a neighour ( http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-48218-1.html ) I charged her $40 for it. Lugged all my equipment, including backdrop and lights to her house and worked my butt off for 2 hours.
I posted 5 pictures on facebook late Monday evening. Tuesday I get a text from neigbhour... "I saw the pictures on facebook, a few things, can you please remove your name from them? You didn't remove the bruise from his head on the picture where he is standing up and he has a booger in one picture, when can we pick up the disk with all the pictures?"
ummmm let's see here... last time I posted pictures on facebook of your daugthers' prom you right clicked and saved them and then posted them on your facebook wall and tried to take credit for them.
Yes I missed the bruise in my rush to get a few pictures up for you to look at, it will be removed on the final copy of the images you get to print.
that is not a booger in the picture, that is cake icing... you know from the cake he smashed and was eating? sigh....
I only took these pictures on Sunday! No I do not have 25+ images fully edited and saved on a CD for you. I told you on Sunday, that they would not be ready for at least a week.
PLUS you still haven't paid me!
thanks for letting me vent.
I posted 5 pictures on facebook late Monday evening. Tuesday I get a text from neigbhour... "I saw the pictures on facebook, a few things, can you please remove your name from them? You didn't remove the bruise from his head on the picture where he is standing up and he has a booger in one picture, when can we pick up the disk with all the pictures?"
ummmm let's see here... last time I posted pictures on facebook of your daugthers' prom you right clicked and saved them and then posted them on your facebook wall and tried to take credit for them.
Yes I missed the bruise in my rush to get a few pictures up for you to look at, it will be removed on the final copy of the images you get to print.
that is not a booger in the picture, that is cake icing... you know from the cake he smashed and was eating? sigh....
I only took these pictures on Sunday! No I do not have 25+ images fully edited and saved on a CD for you. I told you on Sunday, that they would not be ready for at least a week.
PLUS you still haven't paid me!
thanks for letting me vent.
Jun 27, 2012 11:10:10 #
donrent
Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
OH MY !!! I just had a vision... Someone is going to break into your house and steel all of your images.... OH ! whaaat a shame....
Jun 27, 2012 11:16:40 #
Ahhhh the abuse we go through. There are two mothers to watch out for in photography mother of the child (little saint) and the mother of the bride. Seriously most people do not understand the amount of work to take the photos and to do the post processing. I once produced a time line of the process to present at first meeting with potential clients they would shake their heads yes but the phone would ring two days later are the photos ready. Oh by the way as usual you produced some very nice photographs of the child.
Jun 27, 2012 11:19:17 #
Jun 27, 2012 11:26:05 #
twindad wrote:
Forty dollars?! You are seriously underpricing your work. Neighbor or not, for your time and effort you should be charging five times that much, especially when you figure the stress she's putting on you.
Forty dollars?! You are seriously underpricing your work. Neighbor or not, for your time and effort you should be charging five times that much, especially when you figure the stress she's putting on you.
I normally don't even charge, I do it for free. But this is the 3rd set of pictures I have taken for this neigbhbour in the last 6 months. She was starting to take advantage of my good nature.
I haven't answered her text message, I need to breath a few times and get to my happy place before I do.
Jun 27, 2012 11:28:01 #
When non-photographers look at some of my images and ask, "Why don't you do this for money?" My reply is "Why would I want to take a perfectly enjoyable hobby and turn it into work?
If I wanted to work or needed the money I would still be working for AT&T making far more $$$ than probably 99% of those trying to earn a living with a camera. Plus paid vacations, benefits and no need to put up with the hassles MWAC talks about.
If I wanted to work or needed the money I would still be working for AT&T making far more $$$ than probably 99% of those trying to earn a living with a camera. Plus paid vacations, benefits and no need to put up with the hassles MWAC talks about.
Jun 27, 2012 11:37:47 #
Forty dollars? Seriously this is destroying the profession.
Jun 27, 2012 11:41:39 #
Jun 27, 2012 11:58:49 #
Orville H. Brettman wrote:
Forty dollars? Seriously this is destroying the profession.
I'm destroying the profession of photograhy? Care to explain that to me?
* Telling one neighbour that I'm going to charge her $40 because I need to recover the cost of the cake, cd and my time isn't destorying the profession of photography.
* Building myself a portfolio incase I decided to hang a shingle isn't destorying the profession of photography (model releases have been signed) and using a reduced rate while I do so, isn't killing the profession of photography.
* Going rate for a photographer in my area is $50 for a session with 35 images on a CD (I live in a rural area just north of DFW), there are 2 professional photographers in our town, one charges $50 and the other charges less. Charging $40 for my area isn't killing the profession of photography, but I can tell you if and when I decieded to hang a shingle and take on clients, my session fee will be far from $40 as my work is miles a head of the two professionals in town.
* I don't market myself as a professional or even for hire, I currenlty only do "sessions" for friends as favours. Normally I don't even charge. Doing sessions for friends is far from killing the profession of photography.
so in short, I am not killing the profession of photography. People that market themselves as professionals and turn out poop work (no matter what they charge) are killing the profession of photography. (example: http://youarenotaphotographer.com/ )
Jun 27, 2012 12:09:08 #
Orville H. Brettman wrote:
Forty dollars? Seriously this is destroying the profession.
The crappy work by pro-fauxtographers is more of a threat.
Jun 27, 2012 12:10:21 #
MWAC wrote:
br I'm destroying the profession of photograhy? ... (show quote)
Yes, but how do you really feel?
Jun 27, 2012 12:33:09 #
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Yes, but how do you really feel?
Yes, but how do you really feel?
ummm I found his post rude, to put it simply. I work hard at making sure I turn out nice looking images, I work hard at learning something new at least once a month and putting it into practice, I work hard at growing as a photographer.
I am not a professional, never claimed to be one. He has no idea what I spent out of my own pocket for this "session" for a friend, for him to imply that I am killing the profession of photography is just foolish.
As I and snowbear said, it's the fauxographers that are killing the professional of photography, not those of us that are trying to learn all we can and are still thinking that maybe one day we will hang a shingle and start looking for clients. But in the mean time, I practice and some times *gasp* I practice on friends and their children.
* I would love to see some of Orville H. Brettman's work, since he was so quick to judge me and my work as ruining his profession of photography.
Jun 27, 2012 12:35:03 #
MWAC, go drink a glass of wine. Go to your happy place. Then text her No Money, No discy. And remember, you are moving away from the b-----.
(By the way, loved your picture in the contest. Clever!)
(By the way, loved your picture in the contest. Clever!)
Jun 27, 2012 12:54:50 #
Orville H. Brettman wrote:
Forty dollars? Seriously this is destroying the profession.
Oh fer cryin' out loud - MWAC is doing nothing of the kind. This mom would never have hired a professional! MWAC is just recouping some expenses and asking a small amount for her time.
If this mom tried to hire me for what I would have charged (probably in the $500.00 range - prints extra) I doubt we could have come to terms!
Jun 27, 2012 12:55:39 #
CaptainC wrote:
Oh fer cryin' out loud - MWAC is doing nothing of the kind. This mom would never have hired a professional! MWAC is just recouping some expenses and asking a small amount for her time.
If this mom tried to hire me for what I would have charged (probably in the $500.00 range - prints extra) I doubt we could have come to terms!
Orville H. Brettman wrote:
Forty dollars? Seriously this is destroying the profession.
Oh fer cryin' out loud - MWAC is doing nothing of the kind. This mom would never have hired a professional! MWAC is just recouping some expenses and asking a small amount for her time.
If this mom tried to hire me for what I would have charged (probably in the $500.00 range - prints extra) I doubt we could have come to terms!
Great point!
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