Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

I can't paste a youtube URL from my cell phone, but this Google search will locate a short 5 minute video by Street Photographer legend Joel Meyerowitz that should be educational for everyone interested in this section.

http://google.com/search?q=phaidon+meyerowitz+frame

We are getting too many posts insisting on the use of "by MY definition" for what Street Photography is, typically by fairly assertive folks that are sincere but just do not know. My remarks are often interpreted as simply my version of "by MY definition" and thus no different than theirs.

Meyerowitz is not just an authority, he literally is a legend who helped shape what Street Photography is, and hence the recommended video is of true significance. I present it because few people are easily able to obtain a copy of the 1994 academic work Bystander: A History of Street Photography written by Colin Westerbeck with photo editing by Meyerowitz.

I included the word "Phaidon" to find a particular article referencing the video. Many other articles cite the video, but miss the point and discuss Meyerowitz's commentary at the beginning about what is outside the frame. That is enlightening, but his real message to the viewer starts about half way in at about 2:30 minutes and, as the title suggests, is about what is framed for the eventual viewer to see.

Most of all I would like to point out that what Meyerowitz says he includes, the relationships between objects, is something this section does see on a regular basis. Voss posts one fabulous Street shot after another (as do others), and virtually every single one is what it is because each demonstrates what Meyerowitz explains. Those images that miss are collecting objects rather than relationships. And those folks who don't understand the composition of the good images are looking only for the objects rather than relationships.

rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin

Floyd, with sincere respect for the hours you devote to administering the "Street Photography" UHH sub-section, you are a highly erudite gentleman, but there shouldn't be rules for any form of art. /Ralph Wallace

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

But there are rules for each and every section on the UHH forum. That includes the Street Photography section, which is what distinguishes it from the Photo Gallery section.

Or, people are also free to post images not accepted in this section to the wedding section, the macro section, the astronomical section or various others to see if section rules about subject matter are thought to be valid on UHH.

Lets be logical and not just argumentative.

rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin

Nothing about my comment was argumentative, it was polite and respectful.

Please apply your definition to Voss' most recent Street Photography post (above this thread). I am, like you, a fan of Voss' extremely fine work, but how does surf fishing fit?

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

It was neither of those, because it lacked logic and validity.

This section, and this thread, are for discussion of Street Photography, and attempts to hijack threads with off topic discussion may be subject to deletion.

melueth Loc: Central Florida

In my experience with this forum, and most others, there are subcategories that are designed by the very rules or guidelines that make them subcategories. Rules are needed for that to happen, otherwise we'd all be looking at random, disorganized shots . . . and why? So there's a freedom in the art? I would not belong to such a forum. I lost interest in the overall gallery section long ago; sure, there are some awesome shots there, but i wasn't learning as much from studying that as i have from the subcategory sections on this forum. I appreciate the differentiation, and can fully respect the need for rules or guidelines to keep that section unique and informative.

I also would like to respectfully submit that an argument doesn't have to be crude, impolite, vulgar, or otherwise ugly to be considered an argument.

Marylea

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

Thank you for a well reasoned comment!

I might note that being "crude, impolite, vulgar, or otherwise ugly" is a way to bully other members. Such comments are deleted as a matter of course. It is a little more difficult to quench at the bud when a thread is being hijacked with the equally bully tactic of arguing nonsense to distract from valid discussion.

Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana

Yes, let's be both logical and consistent: "We accept almost any inclusive definition of Street Photography, and will not exclude any discussion or image if a member feels it is appropriate to Street Photography."

Meyerowitz didn't write that. Do you remember who did?

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

That is the policy being followed. Such discussion is obviously not excluded.

However, impolite bullying is deleted.

Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada

CNN has an article.

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/joel-meyerowitz-color-berlin/index.html

The article is a year old.

Dik