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Aug 27, 2017 14:18:49   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
I'm a bokeh explorer, looking for unique renderings with old lenses. I've managed to adapt a number of old projection lenses (for 16mm and 35mm projectors) for use with my Sony A7RII. Here are some shots with two old Angenieux projection lenses for 35mm from the 1930s or so. One is a 85mm f1.4, the other a 100mm f1.2. I love the results. These have been post-processed for sharpness, tonality and contrast only--no manipulation of the images. The first five below are with the 100mm, the second five with the 85mm, all shot full frame.


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Aug 27, 2017 14:37:12   #
GreenEggsnHam Loc: Washington State
 
Very interesting photos. I love experimental stuff. I really like the orange poppies and the blade of grass.

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Aug 27, 2017 14:50:15   #
Azboy
 
Stunning, great series! I like #1 and #7.

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Aug 27, 2017 15:21:01   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
kymarto wrote:
I'm a bokeh explorer, looking for unique renderings with old lenses. I've managed to adapt a number of old projection lenses (for 16mm and 35mm projectors) for use with my Sony A7RII. Here are some shots with two old Angenieux projection lenses for 35mm from the 1930s or so. One is a 85mm f1.4, the other a 100mm f1.2. I love the results. These have been post-processed for sharpness, tonality and contrast only--no manipulation of the images. The first five below are with the 100mm, the second five with the 85mm, all shot full frame.
I'm a bokeh explorer, looking for unique rendering... (show quote)

Way cool, kymarto. Love the Fox shot in the third photo.
Marion

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Aug 27, 2017 15:22:57   #
angler Loc: StHelens England
 
Excellent work.

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Aug 27, 2017 15:36:12   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Interesting effect.

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Aug 27, 2017 15:39:54   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
kymarto wrote:
I'm a bokeh explorer, looking for unique renderings with old lenses. I've managed to adapt a number of old projection lenses (for 16mm and 35mm projectors) for use with my Sony A7RII. Here are some shots with two old Angenieux projection lenses for 35mm from the 1930s or so. One is a 85mm f1.4, the other a 100mm f1.2. I love the results. These have been post-processed for sharpness, tonality and contrast only--no manipulation of the images. The first five below are with the 100mm, the second five with the 85mm, all shot full frame.
I'm a bokeh explorer, looking for unique rendering... (show quote)


Wonderful pics.

Since you are a "bokeh explorer", if you haven't already, check out this I found on YouTube. (They also make one to fit Pentax.) They sell the versions for Canon and Nikon at B&H.

The Petzval 58mm size or the 85mm size with bokeh control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQFGfgJ4VYo

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Aug 27, 2017 16:18:38   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
Thanks. I have a number of original Petzval lenses. The new ones look interesting but I'm focused on vintage glass. It's not only about the field curvature, which creates swirly bokeh (please say "bo-kay", the original pronunciation--don't know how Americans perverted it to "boca" like the veggie burgers), but the way the circles of confusion are rendered, whether they are circles or ovals caused by field curvature. The modern Petzval 85mm is, for me, much nicer than the 58mm, which doesn't creates such a nice bokeh, it only swirls. My favorites in this regard are the Elgeet Cine Navitar 50mm f1.5 and the Hugo Meyer Kino Plasmat 25mm f1.5--made for 16mm film. They not only swirl, they have wonderful rendering as well. Here are a couple of examples. Note that they not only swirl, but that the OOF areas are rendered with sharp lines rather than just blur. Not good or bad, just my personal taste.

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Aug 27, 2017 16:22:47   #
Islandgal Loc: Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Canada
 
I know you could write a book on this subject, your images as usual are stunning with beautiful depth and colour.

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Aug 27, 2017 20:16:00   #
Treepusher Loc: Kingston, Massachusetts
 
Beautifully done. The poppies and the whiskey decanter w/ glasses are both outstanding images. Great work.

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Aug 28, 2017 07:00:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Interesting! I've read about that.

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Aug 28, 2017 07:37:56   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
Beautiful set, the bokeh was really a "wow" for me. Thanks for sharing them.

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Aug 28, 2017 07:58:19   #
fourg1b2006 Loc: Long Island New York
 
You did a very nice job with these images.

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Aug 28, 2017 08:14:18   #
Rathyatra Loc: Southport, United Kingdom
 
kymarto wrote:
I'm a bokeh explorer, looking for unique renderings with old lenses. I've managed to adapt a number of old projection lenses (for 16mm and 35mm projectors) for use with my Sony A7RII. Here are some shots with two old Angenieux projection lenses for 35mm from the 1930s or so. One is a 85mm f1.4, the other a 100mm f1.2. I love the results. These have been post-processed for sharpness, tonality and contrast only--no manipulation of the images. The first five below are with the 100mm, the second five with the 85mm, all shot full frame.
I'm a bokeh explorer, looking for unique rendering... (show quote)


Excellent set.

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Aug 28, 2017 08:52:58   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Interesting swirl effects. I've thought about using projection lenses, but haven't done so yet. I'd say the lenses closest to this effect that I have are older Russian lenses & Leica screw mount lenses.

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