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Aug 29, 2017 18:24:26   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
RickBechtel wrote:
It just strikes me that cellphones are the future - and to some extent the present - of point and shoot cameras. Smart camera manufacturers no doubt already are putting R&D effort into coming up with better & better cameras for cellphones. Cameras with better lenses, better sensors, better controls. As that happens, these cameras will become more and more appealing, even to photo enthusiasts as convenient go-anywhere backup cameras. No idea what the cellphone camera of the future may look like, but there's a growing market there. DSLR sales, for their part, ought not to be hugely threatened because they appeal to a different (and fairly durable) audience with different interests & objectives. Today's point and shoots may be a different story.
It just strikes me that cellphones are the future ... (show quote)


Maybe so. But without the underlying products to help support the business, none of us may be able to afford them (DSLRs, that is).

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Aug 29, 2017 19:57:22   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
kenArchi wrote:
Train Sales Are Going Down! People are flying in those fan dangled Airplanes!
It's called Transportation. And the train business did not want to advance.
And transportation went up 100 fold!
So did Picture taking!

If you are talking about all transportation going up 100 fold, you have to include railroads in the industries that benefited. If you go back to 1950, railroad operations looked largely the same as they had been back in 1903, when the airplane was invented. Most of their freight involved small less-than-carload loads; cars could spend as much time in a classification yard waiting for the next train as they spent on the train, and I could walk along the edge of the yard here and go through half a roll of film. Today, most freight involves multi-car loads traveling end-to-end with no stops along the way, and the local yard is mostly empty because nothing needs to be reclassified along the way..

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Aug 29, 2017 20:03:26   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
rehess wrote:
If you are talking about all transportation going up 100 fold, you have to include railroads in the industries that benefited. If you go back to 1950, railroad operations looked largely the same as they had been back in 1903, when the airplane was invented. Most of their freight involved small less-than-carload loads; cars could spend as much time in a classification yard waiting for the next train as they spent on the train, and I could walk along the edge of the yard here and go through half a roll of film. Today, most freight involves multi-car loads traveling end-to-end with no stops along the way, and the local yard is mostly empty because nothing needs to be reclassified along the way..
If you are talking about b all transportation /b ... (show quote)


Not meaning to get too far off-topic...but you are correct. The railroads have "specialized" themselves. The train consists are mostly all uniform because the railroads have reinvented themselves as "end-to-end" carriers. They increasingly do not support or even reach the small towns and intermediate points which they created themselves to serve. It's mostly Los Angeles to Chicago (or New York) or San Francisco to Houston (or Atlanta or Miami). The product they originally intended to serve...point to point...like cattle from Las Vegas, New Mexico to Kansas City...no longer exists. The market is still there, but not the service.

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Aug 29, 2017 20:52:33   #
MLAnderson
 
We have iPhone 5s phones. There is no reason to upgrade our phones. I have a Canon Rebel IOS Xsi, 450D. No reason to upgrade my camera.

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Aug 29, 2017 20:53:44   #
MLAnderson
 
It is not we. It is them.

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Aug 29, 2017 20:55:37   #
MLAnderson
 
We have a train, that goes from the airport to downtown Seattle. Everyone in the City and County have to pay for it, even though the riders do not pay for it.

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Aug 29, 2017 21:00:30   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
MLAnderson wrote:
We have a train, that goes from the airport to downtown Seattle. Everyone in the City and County have to pay for it, even though the riders do not pay for it.


I'm glad (I guess) that they finally got that built and operating. It was under discussion when we moved back home 18 years ago. And of course government envisioned/paid/operated trains don't quite fit the same model that we are discussing here. Like toll bridges. I understand that after we moved away, the 520 bridge, built and paid for with public funds years ago, was made a toll bridge.

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Aug 29, 2017 21:04:34   #
MLAnderson
 
Or your purse?

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Aug 29, 2017 21:06:21   #
MLAnderson
 
Entertainment.

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Aug 29, 2017 21:53:59   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
Wayyyy back in 60's in high school there were only a few kids who had cameras took photography class.
Today every kid in school has a camera in their back pocket.
So to me it looks like a very big increase of picture takers, not a decrease. And of course there will only be those few who will want to further their photography skills and purchase the cameras which will give them more control of their artistic skills.

So, I see no decline of picture takers.

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Aug 29, 2017 23:03:29   #
74images Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
larryepage wrote:
Not meaning to get too far off-topic...but you are correct. The railroads have "specialized" themselves. The train consists are mostly all uniform because the railroads have reinvented themselves as "end-to-end" carriers. They increasingly do not support or even reach the small towns and intermediate points which they created themselves to serve. It's mostly Los Angeles to Chicago (or New York) or San Francisco to Houston (or Atlanta or Miami). The product they originally intended to serve...point to point...like cattle from Las Vegas, New Mexico to Kansas City...no longer exists. The market is still there, but not the service.
Not meaning to get too far off-topic...but you are... (show quote)


Vegas & Phoenix Aint Got Amtrak No More

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Aug 29, 2017 23:11:26   #
74images Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
kenArchi wrote:
Wayyyy back in 60's in high school there were only a few kids who had cameras took photography class.
Today every kid in school has a camera in their back pocket.
So to me it looks like a very big increase of picture takers, not a decrease. And of course there will only be those few who will want to further their photography skills and purchase the cameras which will give them more control of their artistic skills.

So, I see no decline of picture takers.


Picture Takers Like Me Aint Going Away!

... & Camera Phones (Some) Aren't Up to Par, I have A Lot Of Facebook Friends & Their FB Friends Post Their Photos From Their Camera Phones & The Quality I See From Those Phones Are "Real Shitty!"😠 But Photos From A Pocket Or DSLR Are Sharper.

Who Wants to Spend Big Bucks For An Apple Phone, When You Can Buy A Hi End Pocket Digital or A Low to Medium DSLR?

74images

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Aug 30, 2017 10:43:49   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
There was just a news item that the Samsung Galaxy S8 is expected to have a starting price of $930. And the rumor is that the iPhone 8 will be $1,000 or maybe more than that.

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Aug 31, 2017 22:27:10   #
tresap23 Loc: Texas
 
rehess wrote:
A dozen year ago we moved after spending over twenty years in the same house. One of the things I regret having {accidentally} left behind was a Kodak Duaflex camera. My Dad had given it to me many years before - it was the camera he had used to take pictures of me when I was an infant - but I hadn't used it in years, partly because getting 620 film was so difficult.

Today, an organization known as the Film Photography Project is reviving use of those odd films from the past.
https://filmphotographystore.com/collections/all/620-film
A dozen year ago we moved after spending over twen... (show quote)


Wow, and to think I sold at least a dozen or more old cameras in my antique store, for little of nothing. Could not give the things away. Maybe I should have kept them a few more years, and I could have sold them on Ebay and made a profit. I kept a few "really" old ones for myself. But sold the rest for what I could get out of them.

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Sep 1, 2017 08:51:30   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
On my desk I have a Mercury II belonged to a distant relative. Maybe from the 30's or 40's?
We recently moved and got rid of a lot of stuff. I was amazed that their very little interest in old gear
and classic flatware and antiques. We sold some stuff but couldn't even give some away.
Very sad. My kids want no part of beautiful historic things.

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