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Aug 24, 2017 14:30:30   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
OK. I got my notices from Adorama and B&H today. Just wondering, how many of you are going to/have pre-ordered a D850? Next question: What would be your reason (the REAL reason) to upgrade?

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Aug 24, 2017 18:31:23   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
For me, the only feature the D850 has that I wish the D810 had is the articulated live view display with touch screen focusing.

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Aug 25, 2017 06:32:01   #
mleuck
 
GAS, GAS, GAS! Far more camera than I will ever need.

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Aug 25, 2017 07:10:12   #
jimq Loc: Cape Cod, MA
 
D850 is a major upgrade from my D800e. 4k video, great ISO range, improved AF and plenty of speed. As soon as B&H sent me the pre-order e-mail I jumped on it. I waited 3 weeks when the D800e was released and they were so backordered by then that it took months to get.

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Aug 25, 2017 07:29:23   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
I currently shoot with a Df and an 800E. I skipped the 810.
The news of the 850 has triggered a GAS attack that I haven't felt in a while.
These are tough times.

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Aug 25, 2017 09:19:41   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I currently shoot with a Df and an 800E. I skipped the 810.
The news of the 850 has triggered a GAS attack that I haven't felt in a while.
These are tough times.



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Aug 25, 2017 09:25:16   #
cthahn
 
The only real reason for most is they think they will get a better picture, lots of bragging rights showing off this fantastic camera. If you are not a professional photographer using the camera every day, it is a waste of money. How many will spend this amount of money and use cheap kit zoom lenses?

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Aug 25, 2017 09:31:19   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
cthahn wrote:
The only real reason for most is they think they will get a better picture, lots of bragging rights showing off this fantastic camera. If you are not a professional photographer using the camera every day, it is a waste of money. How many will spend this amount of money and use cheap kit zoom lenses?


If I purchase an 850, I promise not to use cheap lenses on it.

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Aug 25, 2017 10:15:07   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
I'll stick with my D810

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Aug 25, 2017 10:22:49   #
rdubreuil Loc: Dummer, NH USA
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I currently shoot with a Df and an 800E. I skipped the 810.
The news of the 850 has triggered a GAS attack that I haven't felt in a while.
These are tough times.



Hey Kmgw9v,

IMHO never jump on the first generation of anything. Being in mechanical engineering & manufacturing for a living and having 38 yrs. experiance across a range of industries, first generation is one small step above tooled prototype. Most bugs have been worked out, hence ready to release but, there may be several gotchas in there. A good example that comes to mind are Tamron zooms between G1 and G2 for several of their lens lines, the current silent recall on the D750, the oily shutter blades of the D600, etcetera.

Think about it a bit before investing hard earned money, time and aggravation. Unless you're a full time photographer that can expense the initial outlay as part of your business, and your reference to tough times as one of a fixed income or something else, hold off. I hope this will be a bit of food for thought and help reduce your "GAS" attack to at least a more manageable "gas" attack. Besides, if all looks well after a few months, there's always the holiday season.

There will be specials and deals galore, if not during, shortly there after. Remember not everyone has $3,300 to drop on a camera body, add the grip, battery, battery charger and fast cards your closer to $4,000 or better. Also another good point to consider is if it's someone looking to upgrade from earlier models, or wanting to add an FX to an existing DX kit, for a high mega pixel count the prices of the D810 will come down to a more manageable expense range of a lot more people now and be more camera than they'll need or use. What I mean by that is the workflow impact after the fact has to be considered too.

The file sizes will be really large, requiring more storage, longer processing times and in some cases requiring hardware upgrades just to mention a few. Though they have their specific uses depending on how the final files/images will be used, I can't see dumbing down a 45+ mega pixel camera to 25 or 11 mega pixels if that's all the range I need. When I could have saved hundreds or more on a 20 or 24 mega pixel camera because I didn't have the hardware in post for dealing with the files. Then again, if you do have $3,300 burning a hole in your pocket, there's always glass, glass, glass.

Best regards, and remember it's not the hardware but rather who's using it. Now, grab what gear you've got and go shoot something!

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Aug 25, 2017 10:23:31   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
cameraf4 wrote:
OK. I got my notices from Adorama and B&H today. Just wondering, how many of you are going to/have pre-ordered a D850? Next question: What would be your reason (the REAL reason) to upgrade?


Focus stacking.
I am dealing with slowly diminishing eye sight and while I can still see "the big picture" being sure I have the right part of the image in focus is more and more an issue. Focus stacking would be a way around that.
Not to mention it just appears to be one hell of a camera.

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Aug 25, 2017 10:30:21   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
😂😂😂

(Oops--forgot to hit quote. The Gas-X box was funny!)

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Aug 25, 2017 10:54:20   #
rdubreuil Loc: Dummer, NH USA
 
Rich1939 wrote:
Focus stacking.

I am dealing with slowly diminishing eye sight and while I can still see "the big picture" being sure I have the right part of the image in focus is more and more an issue. Focus stacking would be a way around that.
Not to mention it just appears to be one hell of a camera.


Rich,

You have to realize it doesn't do the stacking for you in camera and spit out a stacked image. A folder is created on the card and the files are auto captured to them sequentially based on the number of shots selected up to 300. You'll have a new folder and re-set sequential numbering in each of those folders each time you run the stacking function. The camera merely adjusts the focal plane for the selected number of shots from where you place initial focus.

Easy enough to do using manual focus and moving the focal plane yourself or use a macro rail to move the camera for the number of shots you think you'll need. You still have to process those files in post for the actual stacking operations. Handy, if one is taking hundreds if not thousands of images of various subjects that would all require stacking for the final images and having dedicated folder for each subject shot to save culling through all those images.

I'd ask myself; is that feature worth the expense of upgrading my current gear?

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Aug 25, 2017 11:05:39   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
rdubreuil wrote:
Rich,

You have to realize it doesn't do the stacking for you in camera and spit out a stacked image. A folder is created on the card and the files are auto captured to them sequentially based on the number of shots selected up to 300. You'll have a new folder and re-set sequential numbering in each of those folders each time you run the stacking function. The camera merely adjusts the focal plane for the selected number of shots from where you place initial focus.

Easy enough to do using manual focus and moving the focal plane yourself or use a macro rail to move the camera for the number of shots you think you'll need. You still have to process those files in post for the actual stacking operations. Handy, if one is taking hundreds if not thousands of images of various subjects that would all require stacking for the final images and having dedicated folder for each subject shot to save culling through all those images.

I'd ask myself; is that feature worth the expense of upgrading my current gear?
Rich, br br You have to realize it doesn't do the... (show quote)


I understand that "3rd party software" is required. Beyond focus stacking I also feel that the 46mp sensor and the ability to crop while retaining an image file size sufficient for enlarged prints could be an asset for me and my situation.
What I have to work out to my own satisfaction is whether my abilities are equal to those of the D850. Or would owning one be equivalent to purchasing a Maserati when I can no longer legally drive?

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Aug 25, 2017 11:47:32   #
rdubreuil Loc: Dummer, NH USA
 
Rich1939 wrote:
I understand that "3rd party software" is required. Beyond focus stacking I also feel that the 46mp sensor and the ability to crop while retaining an image file size sufficient for enlarged prints could be an asset for me and my situation.
What I have to work out to my own satisfaction is whether my abilities are equal to those of the D850. Or would owning one be equivalent to purchasing a Maserati when I can no longer legally drive?


Point well taken.

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