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Aug 18, 2017 09:11:33   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
There is no "Best Camera" just as there is no "Best Hammer." In my tool box I have a framing hammer , a brick hammer and a ball-peen hammer. If I going some framing, I will use the framing hammer. If I am cleaning bricks, the brick hammer. And if I have given up on convincing someone of an obvious point that they do not want to understand, I grab the ball-peen hammer and hit my own head with it.

The only best hammer is one that is available and is best for the job at hand.

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Aug 18, 2017 09:12:31   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
CatMarley wrote:
You mean, like the (Un)Affordable Care Act?


Pretty much, yes. I used to have a Mamiya 645. Completely manual, but I did have a metering prism for it. It produced beautiful images...railroads, landscapes, and even some portraits. Even had a soft focus portrait lens. But it was pretty much useless for candid shots (too big and obvious), and it was a major hassle for photographing events, even with a 220 magazine and film.

I also had (and still have, somewhere) a Voightlander Vitomatic. Very compact 35mm rangefinder, excellent lens, match needle metering. Also surprisingly good for landscapes, portraits, and groups, as long as a 50mm f/2.8 lens would do the job.

So yes...pretty much like any attempt at a OSFA (one size fits all) solution. It is the reason that we need variety and that I will never tell anyone that they should go out and find a D810 or a used D300s for their solution just because it is mine.

I wasn't sure whether Jerry was asking us about our own 'best camera,' or whether he was pondering what would be a best camera in the marketplace. I answered assuming it was the latter option.

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Aug 18, 2017 09:13:53   #
BebuLamar
 
Jerry asked why don't they make the best and he concluded that his camera is the best. I am sure it's best for him but of course not best for everyone.

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Aug 18, 2017 09:18:43   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
The best camera for me is my D810 for my type of photography.

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Aug 18, 2017 09:30:02   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
JBK wrote:
I think the best camera is the one you have in your hand......!


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Aug 18, 2017 09:31:30   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
sodapop wrote:
While we are at it, where is the best place to take a picture?


Outside. Or inside if it is raining outside.

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Aug 18, 2017 09:34:39   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There are hundreds of different high quality cameras available, and many people would like to own the "best" one. The features a camera offers help move it into that "best" category. Why, then, would manufacturers leave out features that they could easily include to make their cameras more appealing? I know they offer more on their high end models to attract buyers who are willing to spend more, but even at the high end, some brands offer features not available in other brands.

Let's say that four top level cameras have identical features, how could a lab determine which one is the absolute best camera. Using that system, they could also determine the best entry level and pro-sumer model. I know personal opinion might play a part, but it shouldn't. The feel of a camera is irrelevant when what you want is quality. I have lots of differently shaped cameras, and my hands adapt to them just fine. Magazines and online sites like to pick the best cameras in different categories, but they never seem to agree.

Another consideration is the weaknesses of cameras. If Camera A has a weakness in a certain area, and Camera B doesn't, why wouldn't the makers of Camera A correct that? They can see what the competition is doing and where they are coming up short. I don't think this is a financial situation, just design and attention to details. So many cameras have so many features and such good quality, that it seems like it would be possible to combine all of that into one brand.

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There are hundreds of different high quality camer... (show quote)
This is yet another return to the one camera myth. Even in the days of film, when a new {and potentially completely different sensor} was loaded every 12-36 exposures, we had movie cameras, tiny cameras, range-finder cameras, DSLR cameras, MF cameras, etc.

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Aug 18, 2017 09:34:50   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
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Aug 18, 2017 09:36:40   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Trying to get this moved to The Attic?


Actually, I think this has been a very enlightening discussion and attempts to address some very basic issues around choices of equipment. There have been lots of excellent comments. And I think the range of responses is interesting and shows that even though as photographers of one type or another we share the goal of capturing images, we come from different directions to do it.

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Aug 18, 2017 09:40:18   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There are hundreds of different high quality cameras available, and many people would like to own the "best" one. The features a camera offers help move it into that "best" category. Why, then, would manufacturers leave out features that they could easily include to make their cameras more appealing? I know they offer more on their high end models to attract buyers who are willing to spend more, but even at the high end, some brands offer features not available in other brands.

Let's say that four top level cameras have identical features, how could a lab determine which one is the absolute best camera. Using that system, they could also determine the best entry level and pro-sumer model. I know personal opinion might play a part, but it shouldn't. The feel of a camera is irrelevant when what you want is quality. I have lots of differently shaped cameras, and my hands adapt to them just fine. Magazines and online sites like to pick the best cameras in different categories, but they never seem to agree.

Another consideration is the weaknesses of cameras. If Camera A has a weakness in a certain area, and Camera B doesn't, why wouldn't the makers of Camera A correct that? They can see what the competition is doing and where they are coming up short. I don't think this is a financial situation, just design and attention to details. So many cameras have so many features and such good quality, that it seems like it would be possible to combine all of that into one brand.

Ideas? Comments?
There are hundreds of different high quality camer... (show quote)


It is a NON ISSUE, the lens takes the picture, not the camera, so for me, the BEST is my manual focus Carl Zeiss T* lenses for my Nikon D810. End of discussion.

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Aug 18, 2017 10:39:26   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
larryepage wrote:
Actually, I think this has been a very enlightening discussion and attempts to address some very basic issues around choices of equipment. There have been lots of excellent comments. And I think the range of responses is interesting and shows that even though as photographers of one type or another we share the goal of capturing images, we come from different directions to do it.


My comment only had to do with the inappropriate attempt to inject Obamacare into what I agree is a good discussion.

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Aug 18, 2017 11:03:00   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
billnikon wrote:
It is a NON ISSUE, the lens takes the picture, not the camera, so for me, the BEST is my manual focus Carl Zeiss T* lenses for my Nikon D810. End of discussion.
End of discussion?? If camera body isn't part of the equation, why did you specify your D810 - would those lenses take equally good pictures if you put them on a D7000??

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Aug 18, 2017 11:31:16   #
Tet68survivor Loc: Pomfret Center CT
 
dsmeltz wrote:
There is no "Best Camera" just as there is no "Best Hammer." In my tool box I have a framing hammer , a brick hammer and a ball-peen hammer. If I going some framing, I will use the framing hammer. If I am cleaning bricks, the brick hammer. And if I have given up on convincing someone of an obvious point that they do not want to understand, I grab the ball-peen hammer and hit my own head with it.

The only best hammer is one that is available and is best for the job at hand.
There is no "Best Camera" just as there... (show quote)


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Aug 18, 2017 11:32:59   #
Pepsiman Loc: New York City
 
JBK wrote:
I think the best camera is the one you have in your hand......!



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Aug 18, 2017 11:33:53   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
dsmeltz wrote:
My comment only had to do with the inappropriate attempt to inject Obamacare into what I agree is a good discussion.


Obviously you are failing to see a bit of humor. But there are always those who only see intent in terms of politics and miss humor altogether. Sorry you can't see the humor in our "national" life and think any reference to it is so offensive. Sad.

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