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Aug 13, 2017 15:01:02   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
Hi to all members.

I am thinking about getting into real estate photography. As a matter of fact I shot my first interior-exterior yesterday.
The equipment I have is Nikon D500, D7100 50 1.4, 24-70 2.8, 80-400 4.5-5.6 70-200 2.8. Nikon SB 700 flash. Nikon 18-140.
My question is (I have read all in the search section real estate photography), I need either a 12-24 f4 or a 14-24. Which lens would I purchase? And why.
Thanks in advance.

Jules
Las Vegas


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Aug 13, 2017 15:04:02   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
While the 14-24 is an awesome lens and should be in your arsenal, You may want a PC lens.

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Aug 13, 2017 15:04:18   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
While the 14-24 is an awesome lens and should be in your arsenal, You may want a PC lens.

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Aug 13, 2017 15:04:33   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
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Aug 13, 2017 15:42:50   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Jules Karney wrote:
Hi to all members.

I am thinking about getting into real estate photography. As a matter of fact I shot my first interior-exterior yesterday.
The equipment I have is Nikon D500, D7100 50 1.4, 24-70 2.8, 80-400 4.5-5.6 70-200 2.8. Nikon SB 700 flash. Nikon 18-140.
My question is (I have read all in the search section real estate photography), I need either a 12-24 f4 or a 14-24. Which lens would I purchase? And why.
Thanks in advance.

Jules
Las Vegas


Jules, you need to get an excellent understanding of light, color, composition, post processing (compositing, HDR, color handling, focus stacking, layer blending, frequency separation, cloning, etc, etc, etc) before you consider going down this path. Your 18-140 will give you the width you need, and if not, you can generally do a stitched pano to get wider.

First image - horrible keystoning. poor control over light, not sure what you are wanting a prospective buyer to look at that says "buy me."

Second image - wrong time of day, too much contrast, the hour after sunrise and the hour before sunset would avoid your blown out sky and concrete driveway. Don't need to show the side of the house, it is unattractive. Slight keystoning here is ok, but I would have corrected it.

Third image - window totally blown out, keystoning, barrel distortion correctable in Lightroom, Photoshop PT Lens with the proper lens profile. Doesn't really show the room to it's best advantage.

In smaller rooms you will need to use a wider lens, but carefully, to avoid keystoning, volume anamorphosis, severe extension distortion. Or you can use a longer lens, but you'd have to start being concerned with having adequate depth of field, so you'll have to learn how to do focus stacking. A tripod with a bowl platform (often used in video) and a level will be indispensable.

Take a look at this guy's portfolio. I mentored him a few years ago and his work is really excellent now. You probably don't have the clientele, especially if you are doing MLS RE Agents, but you can certainly learn from his approach.

http://ronnachtwey.com/bas/beforeafter-residential/

FYI, he was a Canon 5d Mk III shooter until he found he needed a 14-24mm, at which point he bought a Nikon D800. A comparably wide lens on your camera would be an 8-16mm or a 10-20mm. I think the 12-24 or the 14-24 may not be wide enough for those difficult, tight spaces. But if you understand it and use it appropriately it should be your least used lens.

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Aug 13, 2017 16:03:09   #
Dave327 Loc: Duluth, GA. USA
 
The 12-24, You are going to be confronted with small rooms and you will need all you can get. I have been in construction for 47 years and shoot Canon, frequently using a 10-18 for my completion shoots. Yes, there is distortion at the edges, but some can be fixed in PP.

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Aug 14, 2017 07:26:38   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
Gene51 wrote:
Jules, you need to get an excellent understanding of light, color, composition, post processing (compositing, HDR, color handling, focus stacking, layer blending, frequency separation, cloning, etc, etc, etc) before you consider going down this path. Your 18-140 will give you the width you need, and if not, you can generally do a stitched pano to get wider.

First image - horrible keystoning. poor control over light, not sure what you are wanting a prospective buyer to look at that says "buy me."

Second image - wrong time of day, too much contrast, the hour after sunrise and the hour before sunset would avoid your blown out sky and concrete driveway. Don't need to show the side of the house, it is unattractive. Slight keystoning here is ok, but I would have corrected it.

Third image - window totally blown out, keystoning, barrel distortion correctable in Lightroom, Photoshop PT Lens with the proper lens profile. Doesn't really show the room to it's best advantage.

In smaller rooms you will need to use a wider lens, but carefully, to avoid keystoning, volume anamorphosis, severe extension distortion. Or you can use a longer lens, but you'd have to start being concerned with having adequate depth of field, so you'll have to learn how to do focus stacking. A tripod with a bowl platform (often used in video) and a level will be indispensable.

Take a look at this guy's portfolio. I mentored him a few years ago and his work is really excellent now. You probably don't have the clientele, especially if you are doing MLS RE Agents, but you can certainly learn from his approach.

http://ronnachtwey.com/bas/beforeafter-residential/

FYI, he was a Canon 5d Mk III shooter until he found he needed a 14-24mm, at which point he bought a Nikon D800. A comparably wide lens on your camera would be an 8-16mm or a 10-20mm. I think the 12-24 or the 14-24 may not be wide enough for those difficult, tight spaces. But if you understand it and use it appropriately it should be your least used lens.
Jules, you need to get an excellent understanding ... (show quote)


Gene:
Thank you for your comments and suggestions. I knew I had a lot of learning to do.
You helped. The before and after is a eye opener for sure. Great work. What lens was used? Where two shots blended together to get away from windows blown out and for detail?

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Aug 14, 2017 07:33:32   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
Since you have DX cameras I would recommend the 12-24. A PC lens is ideal to correct distortion but I don't think they make one wide enough for DX, and PC's are very expensive. To avoid distortion use a tripod and keep the lens parallel to the ground!

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Aug 14, 2017 07:37:04   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
nimbushopper wrote:
Since you have DX cameras I would recommend the 12-24. A PC lens is ideal to correct distortion but I don't think they make one wide enough for DX, and PC's are very expensive. To avoid distortion use a tripod and keep the lens parallel to the ground!


Thank you for your comments nimbushopper. I will probably go with a 12-24.

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Aug 14, 2017 08:05:06   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Jules Karney wrote:
Hi to all members.

I am thinking about getting into real estate photography. As a matter of fact I shot my first interior-exterior yesterday.
The equipment I have is Nikon D500, D7100 50 1.4, 24-70 2.8, 80-400 4.5-5.6 70-200 2.8. Nikon SB 700 flash. Nikon 18-140.
My question is (I have read all in the search section real estate photography), I need either a 12-24 f4 or a 14-24. Which lens would I purchase? And why.
Thanks in advance.

Jules
Las Vegas


You also need to take your speedlights (flashes) off camera and put them on umbrellas to spread and even the lighting. Since you are shooting digitally, you can shoot "preview " shots and see where the "dark spots" are that you need to add light to. This is especially true if you are shooting wide angle and multiple stories. In your first photo, a strobe adding light to the upstairs hallway would have helped reduce or eliminate that dark area. I generally shoot with 2 SB910's and an SB800 in addition to my popup on the camera. I use a Nikon D610 and a Nikon D7100 as my cameras.
Here is the site of a photographer in the LA area that I follow. I provided some help to him when I was working in Nikon's Professional Services group and have followed his work.
http://www.photosofmylisting.com/

He primarily works the Los Angeles area but also shoots mansions and estates all over the US and the world. While, I've only talked to him a few times on the phone and by email, I follow his work and respect his work.

While this doesn't address your lens issue, I hope it will give you some creative ideas that will help your general work.

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Aug 14, 2017 08:33:44   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
You also need to take your speedlights (flashes) off camera and put them on umbrellas to spread and even the lighting. Since you are shooting digitally, you can shoot "preview " shots and see where the "dark spots" are that you need to add light to. This is especially true if you are shooting wide angle and multiple stories. In your first photo, a strobe adding light to the upstairs hallway would have helped reduce or eliminate that dark area. I generally shoot with 2 SB910's and an SB800 in addition to my popup on the camera. I use a Nikon D610 and a Nikon D7100 as my cameras.
Here is the site of a photographer in the LA area that I follow. I provided some help to him when I was working in Nikon's Professional Services group and have followed his work.
http://www.photosofmylisting.com/

He primarily works the Los Angeles area but also shoots mansions and estates all over the US and the world. While, I've only talked to him a few times on the phone and by email, I follow his work and respect his work.

While this doesn't address your lens issue, I hope it will give you some creative ideas that will help your general work.
You also need to take your speedlights (flashes) o... (show quote)


Thanks for your comments. A lot to learn.

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Aug 14, 2017 08:35:49   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
PCs (T/S) are nice for exterior shots, especially of tall buildings. But if you are doing primarily residential homes, any distortion using a more standard lens can be handled in post.

I still want a tilt/shift lens anyway because... well i just want one.

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Aug 14, 2017 09:26:38   #
jtal Loc: South Carolina
 
Also consider that you may be asked to do real estate head shots.
If you do, remember that many times you are updating earlier photos that they may have been using for the last 10 or more years.
Aka they are 10+ years older, but they want to look like they did then (not possible).
If possible recommend to a head shot specialist. If you have to do it, then get ready for a lot post retouching to satisfy their vanity.
Can you tell I had a bad experience?

John

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Aug 14, 2017 09:34:17   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Jules Karney wrote:
Hi to all members.

I am thinking about getting into real estate photography. As a matter of fact I shot my first interior-exterior yesterday.
The equipment I have is Nikon D500, D7100 50 1.4, 24-70 2.8, 80-400 4.5-5.6 70-200 2.8. Nikon SB 700 flash. Nikon 18-140.
My question is (I have read all in the search section real estate photography), I need either a 12-24 f4 or a 14-24. Which lens would I purchase? And why.
Thanks in advance.

Jules
Las Vegas


In my opinion you need a wider angle lens than either one of those that you mentioned. For your crop sensor bodies you should have a 10mm lens. For indoor images you need a very wide angle lens. 10mm is the equivalent of a 16mm on a full frame body. Look for a zoom that goes down to 10mm. The reason you need wide angle is because you can make a room look larger and more appealing to potential buyers.

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Aug 14, 2017 09:45:45   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Definitely wider. The third shot shows very little of the room. A wider lens may have allowed a better shot.

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