perhaps a stupid question.
Aug 4, 2017 16:18:45 #
blackest wrote:
LSMFT lord save me from truman , might get reinterpreted. I found around a dozen or so variations for some reason loose straps means floppy tomatoes was one.
I heard "Lord save me from TAXAS".
Aug 4, 2017 16:33:04 #
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Simple example of lack of standardization of terms across countries, organizations and cultures. Some call it "Ground" and some call it "Earth" in electrical terms. So on the moon what is it called? Earth doesn't seem to make much sense to me in that case.
Best,
Todd Ferguson
Best,
Todd Ferguson
I think you have hit upon the important bit. It isn't what something is called that matters, but what it means.
Aug 4, 2017 16:39:07 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
boberic wrote:
...But A steering wheel is a steering wheel, not a directional control turning thingy. A tachometer is not a rev gauge.
But a bonnet (UK) is a hood (US).... a boot (UK) is a trunk (US)... a truck (US) is a lorry (UK).... gasoline (US) is petrol (UK).... mineral spirits (US) are white spirits (UK)... a minivan (US) is a bemo (Indonesia)... a torch (UK) is a flashlight (UK).... a turn signal is a trafficator is a blinker is a directional indicator.... and on and on and on and on!
Oh, and BTW a tachometer (US) actually is a "rev counter" (UK). And a steering wheel is sometimes called a "helm" or a "yoke" or even a "tiller" or a "stick"!
Aug 4, 2017 16:50:25 #
all this reminds me of when I was a 1st time supervisor 45 years ago (had to work that time out and it took me by surprise!)
The guys came in to clean the windows inside. I called down the office to tell everyone to clear the window ledges so the window cleaners could get access. I was told 'we are not window cleaners, but transparent wall cleaning operatives'. I asked what the difference was - 'about 2 shillings (10p) and hour!' (well it was almost 1/2 a century ago).
It seems that heffer dust is alive and well, and often for the same reasons, but at least some of this thread has explained why there are differences
The guys came in to clean the windows inside. I called down the office to tell everyone to clear the window ledges so the window cleaners could get access. I was told 'we are not window cleaners, but transparent wall cleaning operatives'. I asked what the difference was - 'about 2 shillings (10p) and hour!' (well it was almost 1/2 a century ago).
It seems that heffer dust is alive and well, and often for the same reasons, but at least some of this thread has explained why there are differences
Aug 4, 2017 16:56:26 #
amfoto1 wrote:
But a bonnet (UK) is a hood (US).... a boot (UK) i... (show quote)
Yes, and we have to include Australia and Canada into even this English language mixture of terms and meanings! Let alone when we start to bring in different languages and cultures. Holy Tower of Babel...
I worked for many years in document management and imaging. One of the greatest problems is how you organize a set of documents so that those searching for them can find them reliably. What you may call a letter I might call a memorandum. Then in secure and classified environments there is the question of what knowledge the search might return. If the search locates classified documents, but you have no authority to see them, do we tell you they exist and you are not authorized or do we not even tell you they exist.
Once you have dealt with some of these issues you realize how brilliant the Dewey Decimal classification system in a library is and how well it works. Yet it is very simple.
In part this is why I like Lightroom for managing my images as it is quite powerful and yet remains very flexible too.
Best,
Todd Ferguson
Aug 4, 2017 17:08:36 #
SharpShooter wrote:
I suggest that since there are more Canons than anything else, we use all Canon names!!! LoL
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I'm told that the reason there are more Canons is that they break more frequently. LOL
Aug 4, 2017 17:40:32 #
boberic wrote:
Why all the different acronyms for the same things Canon has TV AV IS, Others have SP AP OS still others have A S OC LSMFT. Why can't they all use the same letter designations.. Medicine uses more acronyms than all of industry but every Doc knows what PQRST means (cardiac wave sequence). There is no other designation. All pacemaker companies use DDD VVI PICD as designations and every one knows what they mean. SO my advice to all the camera makers is AGREE on terms. please
It is probably a dumb answer as well, because they can. Every specialty has its own language so to speak, especially acronyms or abbreviations. My education is in the areas of Biology and Chemistry, even many of the common and everyday terms used there may have different meanings in say the world of business. And sub-specialties as well. Say odd terms and "letters" used in say Plant Biochemical Physiology that would make no sense to anyone else.
For the record though, as far as camera shooting modes go both Canon and Pentax use mostly the same short hand, Av, Tv, M, P, X, Sv, TAv, Auto. Nikon uses S to mean Shutter Speed, for Pentax is means Sensitivity (ISO?). And there is SR, IS, VR all roughly mean the same thing. Yes, that is redundant and confusing. also note f/2.8, F2.8, 1:2.8 all mean the same thing. Though personally f/2.8 makes the most sense to me as it gives a hint to its meaning and use, so I prefer that. ASA or ISO 400 & DIN 27.
Aug 4, 2017 17:57:10 #
Aug 4, 2017 18:16:07 #
Alexha wrote:
I once had a British built boat with a tach labeled UPM - Undulations Per Minute, maybe?
maybe made by UPM-Kymmene.
Aug 4, 2017 19:24:34 #
I recently read a forcast that reckons in a couple of hundred years or so, there will be just 3 major languages--- `English, Spanish, Mandarin. Folks may also speak Czech or Welsh but will probably be able to talk in one of the major 3 too. Food for thought, eh wot wot wot!!!
Aug 4, 2017 19:31:57 #
ray manclark wrote:
I recently read a forcast that reckons in a couple of hundred years or so, there will be just 3 major languages--- `English, Spanish, Mandarin. Folks may also speak Czech or Welsh but will probably be able to talk in one of the major 3 too. Food for thought, eh wot wot wot!!!
When we come back to this crap we will advise !!!
Aug 4, 2017 19:33:06 #
Aug 4, 2017 19:44:48 #
I worked in UK shipyards for years and they had different expressions than any other industry, Example--- a Grinder was called a Buff and the operative was called a Buffer. In UK, the left side of a car is called The Drivers side but if you go thru the Channel tunnel, that doesn't apply, as they drive on the other side in France.
Aug 4, 2017 19:46:47 #
Aug 4, 2017 20:49:48 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Of course I don't know all. But for the MASP vs M ... (show quote)
So what if they called the settings what they have been for decades: M, A, and S, (and now P) and
AUTO would be called AUTO, which it already is on many or most cameras. What a crazy idea.
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