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Aug 1, 2017 13:23:56   #
LeoB Loc: Miami, FL
 
I have a full-frame DSLR that I am happy with, a D600. I like the image quality in terms of resolution, low light ability and with what I am able to do in post-processing with the dynamic range this camera offers. I like to shoot landscapes, often with a wide and ultrawide zoom, in and around where I live. And I like to print them large, 12 x 18, sometimes as large as 20 x 30 inches. Walking around with a backpack and tripod for a couple of hours is fine, but like many others, I find it heavy when I travel or out all day. So I have been in the market for something smaller, but I don't want to give up too much of what my D600 gives me. Must I go with a full frame compact? Or can I go with a smaller sensor, like a 1" and still have good image quality in terms of resolution and dynamic range? Thanks

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Aug 1, 2017 13:39:40   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Maybe APS-C but I think you will not be happy with 1" That is a huge change.

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Aug 1, 2017 13:43:24   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Is a full frame necessary? I think so.

I regularly print 12x18 and 16x20. If you think carrying a D600 gets heavy, try hauling around a 4x5, which I regularly do and some member here caught me in the act.
--Bob

LeoB wrote:
I have a full-frame DSLR that I am happy with, a D600. I like the image quality in terms of resolution, low light ability and with what I am able to do in post-processing with the dynamic range this camera offers. I like to shoot landscapes, often with a wide and ultrawide zoom, in and around where I live. And I like to print them large, 12 x 18, sometimes as large as 20 x 30 inches. Walking around with a backpack and tripod for a couple of hours is fine, but like many others, I find it heavy when I travel or out all day. So I have been in the market for something smaller, but I don't want to give up too much of what my D600 gives me. Must I go with a full frame compact? Or can I go with a smaller sensor, like a 1" and still have good image quality in terms of resolution and dynamic range? Thanks
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Aug 1, 2017 13:44:18   #
BebuLamar
 
I don't think I would go for a full frame compact. Small sensor has its own advantages. I only use full frame DSLR only for the reason that my lenses bought for my film cameras would work exactly the same. If it's about quality then why not go for medium format? Sensors have improved greatly I don't think I need full frame for quality standpoint. If you want narrow DOF then the medium format has even narrower DOF but to me I like a lot of DOF.

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Aug 1, 2017 13:45:02   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Depends on what you shoot normally. Landscapes, panoramas, big scale shots definitely. Something you want to enlarge and print up to wall size? The 7360 x 4900 from a D810 will let me go BIG.

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Aug 1, 2017 13:45:47   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
LeoB wrote:
I have a full-frame DSLR that I am happy with, a D600. I like the image quality in terms of resolution, low light ability and with what I am able to do in post-processing with the dynamic range this camera offers. I like to shoot landscapes, often with a wide and ultrawide zoom, in and around where I live. And I like to print them large, 12 x 18, sometimes as large as 20 x 30 inches. Walking around with a backpack and tripod for a couple of hours is fine, but like many others, I find it heavy when I travel or out all day. So I have been in the market for something smaller, but I don't want to give up too much of what my D600 gives me. Must I go with a full frame compact? Or can I go with a smaller sensor, like a 1" and still have good image quality in terms of resolution and dynamic range? Thanks
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First. I shoot with aps-c cameras. Nikon D7200 (Now actually passed on to my pro-photographer daughter), Sony a6000 and Sony a6300. I REGULARLY print 12x18, 16x24, and 20x30 with excellent results. I've recently concluded two art shows featuring my work in those sizes.
The aps-c sensor holds good resolution and dynamic range. On the few occasions I wanted to go to 30x40, I used On1 Perfect Resize. That worked fairly well.

Second, there is no 1" sensor. For a fuller explanation see https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3862935 or http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/one-inch-sensor.htm The so-called 1" was named for the 1 inch vidicon tube we used to use in broadcast station video cameras. It was adequate for the quality of the TV video of that time. The manufacturers should be jailed for fraud because they knew they were liars from the start. That includes Sony, Canon, Nikon, and all the rest. The sensor is actually 0.35 x 0.47 inch. In other words, it should properly be called a 0.1645 inch.

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Aug 1, 2017 13:55:38   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
That's my motivation. Somewhere I read a motto, "go big or go home". It was on some photo site that basically catered to large format users.
--Bob
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Depends on what you shoot normally. Landscapes, panoramas, big scale shots definitely. Something you want to enlarge and print up to wall size? The 7360 x 4900 from a D810 will let me go BIG.

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Aug 1, 2017 14:12:09   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
rmalarz wrote:
That's my motivation. Somewhere I read a motto, "go big or go home". It was on some photo site that basically catered to large format users.
--Bob


Couldn't agree more.

I will never go back to anything smaller than FX. For me it's not worth the loss in image quality.

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Aug 1, 2017 14:25:24   #
LeoB Loc: Miami, FL
 
Thank you Reinaldo and dsmeltz

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Aug 1, 2017 15:00:34   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The smaller sensor cameras produce excellent results. But, you can easily see the noise difference if out shooting a crop and full-frame camera together and comparing the results. That said, cleaning the noise for an image is quick, easy and very effective with a dedicated tool like DeNoise.

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Aug 1, 2017 15:16:18   #
mrpentaxk5ii
 
LeoB wrote:
I have a full-frame DSLR that I am happy with, a D600. I like the image quality in terms of resolution, low light ability and with what I am able to do in post-processing with the dynamic range this camera offers. I like to shoot landscapes, often with a wide and ultrawide zoom, in and around where I live. And I like to print them large, 12 x 18, sometimes as large as 20 x 30 inches. Walking around with a backpack and tripod for a couple of hours is fine, but like many others, I find it heavy when I travel or out all day. So I have been in the market for something smaller, but I don't want to give up too much of what my D600 gives me. Must I go with a full frame compact? Or can I go with a smaller sensor, like a 1" and still have good image quality in terms of resolution and dynamic range? Thanks
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When you want to make large prints from 12-18 to 20-30 inches the file that you use has to be free of flaws, the larger you print any problems with a file will stand out. regaurdless you can print great prints from an APSC or full frame the glass that you use is important, often people spend the money for a god camera body and add a cheap lens. When you use a wide lense the Full frame will give you the true width of the lense, that being said not every landscape photo is shot wide so if you use long lens or find that you crop your full frame, make your second body a good APSC camera.

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Aug 1, 2017 15:18:04   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
LeoB wrote:
I have a full-frame DSLR that I am happy with, a D600. I like the image quality in terms of resolution, low light ability and with what I am able to do in post-processing with the dynamic range this camera offers. I like to shoot landscapes, often with a wide and ultrawide zoom, in and around where I live. And I like to print them large, 12 x 18, sometimes as large as 20 x 30 inches. Walking around with a backpack and tripod for a couple of hours is fine, but like many others, I find it heavy when I travel or out all day. So I have been in the market for something smaller, but I don't want to give up too much of what my D600 gives me. Must I go with a full frame compact? Or can I go with a smaller sensor, like a 1" and still have good image quality in terms of resolution and dynamic range? Thanks
I have a full-frame DSLR that I am happy with, a D... (show quote)


Try renting a Sony A7Rii and a Zeiss Batis 25mm F2.0 for a week. You would be giving up nothing but #'s and $'s and might be everything you could wish for.

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Aug 1, 2017 15:31:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
LeoB wrote:
I have a full-frame DSLR that I am happy with, a D600. I like the image quality in terms of resolution, low light ability and with what I am able to do in post-processing with the dynamic range this camera offers. I like to shoot landscapes, often with a wide and ultrawide zoom, in and around where I live. And I like to print them large, 12 x 18, sometimes as large as 20 x 30 inches. Walking around with a backpack and tripod for a couple of hours is fine, but like many others, I find it heavy when I travel or out all day. So I have been in the market for something smaller, but I don't want to give up too much of what my D600 gives me. Must I go with a full frame compact? Or can I go with a smaller sensor, like a 1" and still have good image quality in terms of resolution and dynamic range? Thanks
I have a full-frame DSLR that I am happy with, a D... (show quote)


There won't be much difference in weight between a D600 and a D5600 or D7200, especially when you add a longer lens. Your other choice is mirrorless - without a long (heavy, large) lens.

Cpmparisons -

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http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu

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Aug 1, 2017 16:15:31   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
LeoB wrote:
I have a full-frame DSLR that I am happy with, a D600. I like the image quality in terms of resolution, low light ability and with what I am able to do in post-processing with the dynamic range this camera offers. I like to shoot landscapes, often with a wide and ultrawide zoom, in and around where I live. And I like to print them large, 12 x 18, sometimes as large as 20 x 30 inches. Walking around with a backpack and tripod for a couple of hours is fine, but like many others, I find it heavy when I travel or out all day. So I have been in the market for something smaller, but I don't want to give up too much of what my D600 gives me. Must I go with a full frame compact? Or can I go with a smaller sensor, like a 1" and still have good image quality in terms of resolution and dynamic range? Thanks
I have a full-frame DSLR that I am happy with, a D... (show quote)


Look very carefully at the mirrorless options from Olympus, Panasonic, Fujifilm, and Sony. The Oly/Panny/Micro 4/3 system is the only one that saves a lot of weight.

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Aug 1, 2017 16:24:40   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
The weight is not in the sensor, take a look at the mirror-less offerings.

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