"Monkey Selfie"
Jul 16, 2017 07:45:21 #
What a shame! People are ridiculous.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/7323283771/photographer-behind-famous-monkey-selfie-broke-after-years-long-copyright-battle
https://www.dpreview.com/news/7323283771/photographer-behind-famous-monkey-selfie-broke-after-years-long-copyright-battle
Jul 16, 2017 08:27:14 #
Animals can't own a copyright, the camera owner does. Simple!
Jul 16, 2017 08:44:55 #
Longshadow wrote:
Animals can't own a copyright, the camera owner does. Simple!
Not so simple when lawyers get involved. Imagine going to court to grant copyright privileges to a non human.
Jul 16, 2017 18:01:53 #
I just saw a news story recently that PETA is currently still pursuing this ridiculous lawsuit. I think they are just diluting their message. I firmly believe animals should be treated humanely, and I can't understand PETA wasting their finite resources on this. I'm sure when the copyright laws were written, nobody thought to specify that non-human animals can't own intellectual property.
Jul 16, 2017 19:46:11 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
I just saw a news story recently that PETA is currently still pursuing this ridiculous lawsuit. I think they are just diluting their message. I firmly believe animals should be treated humanely, and I can't understand PETA wasting their finite resources on this. I'm sure when the copyright laws were written, nobody thought to specify that non-human animals can't own intellectual property.
The never thought anyone would try...
Jul 16, 2017 19:56:41 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Not so simple when lawyers get involved. Imagine going to court to grant copyright privileges to a non human.
When lawyers get involved there is only one winner: the lawyers.
Love Shakespeare's Henry VI line, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawers..."
Jul 17, 2017 04:55:14 #
MtnMan wrote:
When lawyers get involved there is only one winner: the lawyers.
Love Shakespeare's Henry VI line, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawers..."
Love Shakespeare's Henry VI line, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawers..."
You probably should look up what the Bard was saying! That is the necessary first step to overthrowing a lawful government...
Jul 17, 2017 06:55:17 #
I do not normally get involved in these discussion as they are generally outside my scope of expertise, but this one raised an interesting question for me. What of automatic game cameras? If the camera owner (Slater) does not own the copyright since he did not take the picture, who owns copyright on the pictures taken from game cameras or other automated camera systems? Its an interesting legal question, especially as we move toward much more automation in our society.
Jul 17, 2017 07:59:44 #
VTMatwood wrote:
I do not normally get involved in these discussion as they are generally outside my scope of expertise, but this one raised an interesting question for me. What of automatic game cameras? If the camera owner (Slater) does not own the copyright since he did not take the picture, who owns copyright on the pictures taken from game cameras or other automated camera systems? Its an interesting legal question, especially as we move toward much more automation in our society.
Naturally, the camera would own the copyright, and it would be entitled to all the revenue that its pictures produce.
Jul 17, 2017 08:01:54 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
I just saw a news story recently that PETA is currently still pursuing this ridiculous lawsuit. I think they are just diluting their message. I firmly believe animals should be treated humanely, and I can't understand PETA wasting their finite resources on this. I'm sure when the copyright laws were written, nobody thought to specify that non-human animals can't own intellectual property.
This foolishness isn't going to help PETA's fund raising. Imagine if all animals were given the same rights as humans. After all, corporation are people now. Fishing and hunting and eating any kind of animal would be against the law. Shouldn't plants have rights, too?
Jul 17, 2017 08:56:43 #
Longshadow wrote:
Animals can't own a copyright, the camera owner does. Simple!
Wrong!
Jul 17, 2017 09:09:32 #
dpfoto
Loc: Cape Coral, FL
If plants have rights, maybe the lawyers will start filing suits against COWS for eating grass. Shouldn't we feel sorry for the poor grass?
Jul 17, 2017 09:17:32 #
David Kay wrote:
Wrong!
Since when can anything non human own a copyright?
Jul 17, 2017 09:21:52 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
I just saw a news story recently that PETA is currently still pursuing this ridiculous lawsuit. I think they are just diluting their message. I firmly believe animals should be treated humanely, and I can't understand PETA wasting their finite resources on this. I'm sure when the copyright laws were written, nobody thought to specify that non-human animals can't own intellectual property.
PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals
) has gone way off it's original message, and this monkey selfie is absolute evidence of that, another would be spray painting women's fur coats which is why we occasionally read a new report of somebody beating the stuffing out of a sprayer. Their original cause was good, they have now become the butt of many jokes! Several years ago they even took a shot at banning fishing because it is cruel.Jul 17, 2017 09:36:18 #
That is incorrect. The operator of the camera owns the copyright.
--Bob
--Bob
Longshadow wrote:
Animals can't own a copyright, the camera owner does. Simple!
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