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Jul 6, 2017 09:33:10   #
bigwolf40 Loc: Effort, Pa.
 

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Jul 6, 2017 09:33:56   #
bigwolf40 Loc: Effort, Pa.
 
Very nice indeed. That had to be a little rough pulling that much weight. I do remember some of the shows after I got out of the service. Very nice story to go along with the photos...Rich

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Jul 6, 2017 09:37:04   #
photophile Loc: Lakewood, Ohio, USA
 
JCam wrote:
Those of the more senior of us may remember the Death Valley Days TV show from the mid-50's with Ronald Regan as the teamster of the 20 Mule Team in the Borax advertisements.

The Borax 20 mule team and freight wagons go back to the early 1883, and were used to haul unrefined borax across Death Valley in CA. to the rail-head at Mojave, CA, 165 miles one way that took about ten days. The mules could stand the heat and whereas horses and oxen could not; they were originally bred in the arid regions of Europe. The mules also are more sure-footed than horses due to their smaller and flatter hooves.

Originally the Borax operation had five sets of the wagons, but today only one of the originals exists at the original Harmony Borax Works in Death Valley. The last time a team had been on the east coast was for Inauguration parade of Pres. William McKinley in 1917; that was a restored original wagon train. In the late 1990s the Borax Company built two replica wagon teams. Their first public unveiling of the replica wagons was for the 2017 Rose Bowl Parade, and this year they were part of the Fourth of July parade in DC. Until last week neither no Borax team had been on the East Coast for 100 years. They were hosted here by an MD Eastern Shore farm that also raises and trains mules. The farm owners also donated the wood for the new wagons from timber growing on their land here on the Eastern Shore.

The statistics for the wagons are astounding. The new wagons are almost exact replicas of the original; each wagon box is 16 feet long by 4 feet wide, and I estimate about 6 feet deep. They each weigh about seven tons (empty) and the wheels are 8 inches wide by about 7' (front) & 8' (rear) diameter with a steel tire around the circumference to minimize wear. The wheels alone are 1000 lbs each. The complete rig consisting of the two loaded wagons and the water wagon weighed about 73,000 lbs. (36.5 tons). Two men were used to operate the rig; the driver (or teamster) drove; the second man (the swamper) rode the second wagon and manned the brakes. Just the 20 mule team stretched out for about 120 feet ahead of the wagons.

I've attached some pictures of the team and wagons. The photos have been cropped, but not otherwise edited. Because of the crowds it was impossible to get a shot of the full 20 mule team and the wagons; the last photo is the best I could do.
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I do remember that TV show, interesting history and photos.

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Jul 6, 2017 09:45:44   #
windshoppe Loc: Arizona
 
Nice work and very informative presentation. Heres' a shot of the original with the water wagon but minus the mules.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/142378849@N08/34947236433/in/dateposted-public/

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Jul 6, 2017 09:58:46   #
Bear2 Loc: Southeast,, MI
 
JCam wrote:
Those of the more senior of us may remember the Death Valley Days TV show from the mid-50's with Ronald Regan as the teamster of the 20 Mule Team in the Borax advertisements.

The Borax 20 mule team and freight wagons go back to the early 1883, and were used to haul unrefined borax across Death Valley in CA. to the rail-head at Mojave, CA, 165 miles one way that took about ten days. The mules could stand the heat and whereas horses and oxen could not; they were originally bred in the arid regions of Europe. The mules also are more sure-footed than horses due to their smaller and flatter hooves.

Originally the Borax operation had five sets of the wagons, but today only one of the originals exists at the original Harmony Borax Works in Death Valley. The last time a team had been on the east coast was for Inauguration parade of Pres. William McKinley in 1917; that was a restored original wagon train. In the late 1990s the Borax Company built

two replica wagon teams. Their first public unveiling of the replica wagons was for the 2017 Rose Bowl Parade, and this year they were part of the Fourth of July parade in DC. Until last week neither no Borax team had been on the East Coast for 100 years. They were hosted here by an MD Eastern Shore farm that also raises and trains mules. The farm owners also donated the wood for the new wagons from timber growing on their land here on the Eastern Shore.

The statistics for the wagons are astounding. The new wagons are almost exact replicas of the original; each wagon box is 16 feet long by 4 feet wide, and I estimate about 6 feet deep. They each weigh about seven tons (empty) and the wheels are 8 inches wide by about 7' (front) & 8' (rear) diameter with a steel tire around the circumference to minimize wear. The wheels alone are 1000 lbs each. The complete rig consisting of the two loaded wagons and the water wagon weighed about 73,000 lbs. (36.5 tons). Two men were used to operate the rig; the driver (or teamster) drove; the second man (the swamper) rode the second wagon and manned the brakes. Just the 20 mule team stretched out for about 120 feet ahead of the wagons.

I've attached some pictures of the team and wagons. The photos have been cropped, but not otherwise edited. Because of the crowds it was impossible to get a shot of the full 20 mule team and the wagons; the last photo is the best I could do.
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Thank you for the info, and fabulous pictures.

Duane

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Jul 6, 2017 11:07:45   #
Carolina Wings Loc: Flew from North Carolina to Pennsylvania
 
JCam wrote:
Those of the more senior of us may remember the Death Valley Days TV show from the mid-50's with Ronald Regan as the teamster of the 20 Mule Team in the Borax advertisements.

The Borax 20 mule team and freight wagons go back to the early 1883, and were used to haul unrefined borax across Death Valley in CA. to the rail-head at Mojave, CA, 165 miles one way that took about ten days. The mules could stand the heat and whereas horses and oxen could not; they were originally bred in the arid regions of Europe. The mules also are more sure-footed than horses due to their smaller and flatter hooves.

Originally the Borax operation had five sets of the wagons, but today only one of the originals exists at the original Harmony Borax Works in Death Valley. The last time a team had been on the east coast was for Inauguration parade of Pres. William McKinley in 1917; that was a restored original wagon train. In the late 1990s the Borax Company built two replica wagon teams. Their first public unveiling of the replica wagons was for the 2017 Rose Bowl Parade, and this year they were part of the Fourth of July parade in DC. Until last week neither no Borax team had been on the East Coast for 100 years. They were hosted here by an MD Eastern Shore farm that also raises and trains mules. The farm owners also donated the wood for the new wagons from timber growing on their land here on the Eastern Shore.

The statistics for the wagons are astounding. The new wagons are almost exact replicas of the original; each wagon box is 16 feet long by 4 feet wide, and I estimate about 6 feet deep. They each weigh about seven tons (empty) and the wheels are 8 inches wide by about 7' (front) & 8' (rear) diameter with a steel tire around the circumference to minimize wear. The wheels alone are 1000 lbs each. The complete rig consisting of the two loaded wagons and the water wagon weighed about 73,000 lbs. (36.5 tons). Two men were used to operate the rig; the driver (or teamster) drove; the second man (the swamper) rode the second wagon and manned the brakes. Just the 20 mule team stretched out for about 120 feet ahead of the wagons.

I've attached some pictures of the team and wagons. The photos have been cropped, but not otherwise edited. Because of the crowds it was impossible to get a shot of the full 20 mule team and the wagons; the last photo is the best I could do.
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Yep...I remember...interesting set and info

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Jul 6, 2017 21:43:55   #
sailorsmom Loc: Souderton, PA
 
Very interesting, JCam! I love your photos!

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Jul 6, 2017 22:49:24   #
BudsOwl Loc: Upstate NY and New England
 
JCam wrote:
Those of the more senior of us may remember the Death Valley Days TV show from the mid-50's with Ronald Regan as the teamster of the 20 Mule Team in the Borax advertisements.

The Borax 20 mule team and freight wagons go back to the early 1883, and were used to haul unrefined borax across Death Valley in CA. to the rail-head at Mojave, CA, 165 miles one way that took about ten days. The mules could stand the heat and whereas horses and oxen could not; they were originally bred in the arid regions of Europe. The mules also are more sure-footed than horses due to their smaller and flatter hooves.

Originally the Borax operation had five sets of the wagons, but today only one of the originals exists at the original Harmony Borax Works in Death Valley. The last time a team had been on the east coast was for Inauguration parade of Pres. William McKinley in 1917; that was a restored original wagon train. In the late 1990s the Borax Company built two replica wagon teams. Their first public unveiling of the replica wagons was for the 2017 Rose Bowl Parade, and this year they were part of the Fourth of July parade in DC. Until last week neither no Borax team had been on the East Coast for 100 years. They were hosted here by an MD Eastern Shore farm that also raises and trains mules. The farm owners also donated the wood for the new wagons from timber growing on their land here on the Eastern Shore.

The statistics for the wagons are astounding. The new wagons are almost exact replicas of the original; each wagon box is 16 feet long by 4 feet wide, and I estimate about 6 feet deep. They each weigh about seven tons (empty) and the wheels are 8 inches wide by about 7' (front) & 8' (rear) diameter with a steel tire around the circumference to minimize wear. The wheels alone are 1000 lbs each. The complete rig consisting of the two loaded wagons and the water wagon weighed about 73,000 lbs. (36.5 tons). Two men were used to operate the rig; the driver (or teamster) drove; the second man (the swamper) rode the second wagon and manned the brakes. Just the 20 mule team stretched out for about 120 feet ahead of the wagons.

I've attached some pictures of the team and wagons. The photos have been cropped, but not otherwise edited. Because of the crowds it was impossible to get a shot of the full 20 mule team and the wagons; the last photo is the best I could do.
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Wow! Does that bring back memories, and I believe that the tv show was preceded by a radio program called Death Valley Days from the September 1930 to September 1951. I used to listen to it during the late '30s and throughout the '40s until I went to college. Most of the episodes were written by Ruth Woodman for 31 years. (Wikipedia helped my memory)
Bud

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Jul 6, 2017 23:04:51   #
catgirl Loc: las vegas
 
JCam wrote:
Those of the more senior of us may remember the Death Valley Days TV show from the mid-50's with Ronald Regan as the teamster of the 20 Mule Team in the Borax advertisements.

The Borax 20 mule team and freight wagons go back to the early 1883, and were used to haul unrefined borax across Death Valley in CA. to the rail-head at Mojave, CA, 165 miles one way that took about ten days. The mules could stand the heat and whereas horses and oxen could not; they were originally bred in the arid regions of Europe. The mules also are more sure-footed than horses due to their smaller and flatter hooves.

Originally the Borax operation had five sets of the wagons, but today only one of the originals exists at the original Harmony Borax Works in Death Valley. The last time a team had been on the east coast was for Inauguration parade of Pres. William McKinley in 1917; that was a restored original wagon train. In the late 1990s the Borax Company built two replica wagon teams. Their first public unveiling of the replica wagons was for the 2017 Rose Bowl Parade, and this year they were part of the Fourth of July parade in DC. Until last week neither no Borax team had been on the East Coast for 100 years. They were hosted here by an MD Eastern Shore farm that also raises and trains mules. The farm owners also donated the wood for the new wagons from timber growing on their land here on the Eastern Shore.

The statistics for the wagons are astounding. The new wagons are almost exact replicas of the original; each wagon box is 16 feet long by 4 feet wide, and I estimate about 6 feet deep. They each weigh about seven tons (empty) and the wheels are 8 inches wide by about 7' (front) & 8' (rear) diameter with a steel tire around the circumference to minimize wear. The wheels alone are 1000 lbs each. The complete rig consisting of the two loaded wagons and the water wagon weighed about 73,000 lbs. (36.5 tons). Two men were used to operate the rig; the driver (or teamster) drove; the second man (the swamper) rode the second wagon and manned the brakes. Just the 20 mule team stretched out for about 120 feet ahead of the wagons.

I've attached some pictures of the team and wagons. The photos have been cropped, but not otherwise edited. Because of the crowds it was impossible to get a shot of the full 20 mule team and the wagons; the last photo is the best I could do.
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you did a fabulous job with the background information, and the photos are outstanding well done JCam

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Jul 7, 2017 05:01:53   #
canondave1 Loc: Houston, TX
 
JCam wrote:
Those of the more senior of us may remember the Death Valley Days TV show from the mid-50's with Ronald Regan as the teamster of the 20 Mule Team in the Borax advertisements.

The Borax 20 mule team and freight wagons go back to the early 1883, and were used to haul unrefined borax across Death Valley in CA. to the rail-head at Mojave, CA, 165 miles one way that took about ten days. The mules could stand the heat and whereas horses and oxen could not; they were originally bred in the arid regions of Europe. The mules also are more sure-footed than horses due to their smaller and flatter hooves.

Originally the Borax operation had five sets of the wagons, but today only one of the originals exists at the original Harmony Borax Works in Death Valley. The last time a team had been on the east coast was for Inauguration parade of Pres. William McKinley in 1917; that was a restored original wagon train. In the late 1990s the Borax Company built two replica wagon teams. Their first public unveiling of the replica wagons was for the 2017 Rose Bowl Parade, and this year they were part of the Fourth of July parade in DC. Until last week neither no Borax team had been on the East Coast for 100 years. They were hosted here by an MD Eastern Shore farm that also raises and trains mules. The farm owners also donated the wood for the new wagons from timber growing on their land here on the Eastern Shore.

The statistics for the wagons are astounding. The new wagons are almost exact replicas of the original; each wagon box is 16 feet long by 4 feet wide, and I estimate about 6 feet deep. They each weigh about seven tons (empty) and the wheels are 8 inches wide by about 7' (front) & 8' (rear) diameter with a steel tire around the circumference to minimize wear. The wheels alone are 1000 lbs each. The complete rig consisting of the two loaded wagons and the water wagon weighed about 73,000 lbs. (36.5 tons). Two men were used to operate the rig; the driver (or teamster) drove; the second man (the swamper) rode the second wagon and manned the brakes. Just the 20 mule team stretched out for about 120 feet ahead of the wagons.

I've attached some pictures of the team and wagons. The photos have been cropped, but not otherwise edited. Because of the crowds it was impossible to get a shot of the full 20 mule team and the wagons; the last photo is the best I could do.
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Fascinating set of photos! I remember those old programs with Ronald Reagan. I had no idea about the size of those wagons.

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Jul 7, 2017 21:47:18   #
Madman Loc: Gulf Coast, Florida USA
 
Thanks for the story and the photos. I'm sure that I watched the show but can't say that I remember much about it. I do remember the advertisements for the borax.

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Jul 8, 2017 08:27:02   #
ByronGC
 
Was at the 4H show and it was good and informative, but you had more patience than I with all the people there. Really great photos and I guess the sign of a good photographer is their patience to get the best shots. Good story and thanks for sharing the photos

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Jul 8, 2017 14:35:22   #
Tikva Loc: Waukesha, WI
 
Thanks for the story and the wonderful photos. I do remember the TV show.

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Jul 8, 2017 14:36:07   #
angler Loc: StHelens England
 
Excellent set.

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Jul 8, 2017 18:37:06   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
Thanks for the history lesson, I had one of those plastic models back in the 50s!!

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