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Upgrading to full frame Nikon camera. Any suggestions?
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Jun 29, 2017 12:33:53   #
AK Grandpa Loc: Anchorage, AK
 
Why go FX ? Go with the D500 . . . It will use every lens you have and has the features, low light capability, and IQ that rivals most of the FX cameras out there . . .

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Jun 29, 2017 13:03:22   #
dyximan
 
Unfortunately I believe the lenses you have for your crop sensors are DX and for a full frame there an app and they will not work as their orifices are not large enough to let in the light necessary for a full frame don't quote me on it but go to your nearest camera store and find out for sure.

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Jun 29, 2017 13:25:41   #
jsmangis Loc: Peoria, IL
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
I recently upgraded to a Df. Love the camera and love its ergonomics with the D 50 mm f1.4. I can't say the same about the 24-70 f2.8. It's too "muzzle heavy" for my taste. The only obstacle I foresee with the FX format is most of the zoom lenses are heavy. I plan to sell the zoom (24-70) and either work a while with a prime or two. I hasten to add that I have a 5300 with 2 zooms that cover from 16 to 300 so I can afford the luxury of buying more carefully this time around. I like the Df because of the controls in the top deck. Helps me set up for photos without digging into the menu system each time.... and it looks and feels like my "old timey" Nikons.
I recently upgraded to a Df. Love the camera and l... (show quote)


Davey, you might want to try the 24-120 f4. It is less than half the weight of the 24-70 f2.8 that I only use in the studio, and is only two stops slower. I use it as a 'walk-around' lens on my D610 and it is a great lens.

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Jun 29, 2017 13:34:38   #
edfgrf1951 Loc: Chatsworth Ga.
 
You could sell here . I bet you can get more money.

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Jun 29, 2017 13:47:07   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
jsmangis wrote:
Davey, you might want to try the 24-120 f4.
It is less than half the weight of the 24-70 f2.8 that I only use in the studio, and is only two stops slower.
I use it as a 'walk-around' lens on my D610 and it is a great lens.


From f/2.8 to f/4 is only one stop.
Great lens! Not one of the "trinity" but I use mine a lot more than the 24-70.

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Jun 29, 2017 14:35:17   #
whfowle Loc: Tampa first, now Albuquerque
 
All the advice given so far is excellent. You may or may not choose to move on to full frame. You should base it on what you expect to achieve. The Nikon FF cameras are all pro level and generally have better electronics than most of the crop sensor Nikons. This can translate to less noise when shooting in situations with less light. But the high end Nikon crop sensor cameras also have excellent electronics. In the end, going FF means heavier cameras and lens and higher costs. But the variety of lens options is also greater. Also, with Nikon, all DX lens will work on the FF bodies, just in crop sensor mode. Except for the D8xx series, this means a pretty big cut in pixels. Not that that is all bad. I still use my D40, a 6MP DX camera because within its capabilities, I get very clean images because there is no pixel packing. The D810 tops out at about 15MP which is not bad, just not what you can get in say a D7200. I like to use DX for my telephoto work with animals and birds and FX for my street and ultra wide requirements. In the end, it really boils down to what you want to achieve. Only you can decide that.

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Jun 29, 2017 15:00:27   #
ricardo00
 
[quote=zumarose]

"So I figured I might as well start working with full frame now and get really used to it. Is my thinking flawed? If not, what would be a good quality but not too crazy expensive full frame Nikon camera that I could keep and use for a long time? I only need the body. I also have reservations about the additional weight a full frame would bring to my camera bag. So I don't want to go super heavy.

Will the lenses I currently use with my d5200 work? I have the Nikon 18-200 mm zoom, the Nikon 1.8 35 mm prime, the Tamron 90 mm, and the Tokina 11-16 mm."

I have a very similar collection of lenses (except the 35mm, instead have a 50mm) and have considered switching to full frame several times. However after trying out first the D800 and a few years later the D810, stuck with the DX line. So I would suggest renting a full frame and seeing if it is worth the extra cost (you would have to sell quite a few pics to make up the difference, especially if you need to replace the two DX lenses in your collection, the 18-200mm and the 11-16mm) as well as increased weight versus getting say the D7200 which will play very nicely with your lenses. For example, attached is a photo taken with the Tamron 90mm and the D7200

D7200 and Tamron 90mm
D7200 and Tamron 90mm...

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Jun 29, 2017 15:10:24   #
whfowle Loc: Tampa first, now Albuquerque
 
All the advice given so far is excellent. You may or may not choose to move on to full frame. You should base it on what you expect to achieve. The Nikon FF cameras are all pro level and generally have better electronics than most of the crop sensor Nikons. This can translate to less noise when shooting in situations with less light. But the high end Nikon crop sensor cameras also have excellent electronics. In the end, going FF means heavier cameras and lens and higher costs. But the variety of lens options is also greater. Also, with Nikon, all DX lens will work on the FF bodies, just in crop sensor mode. Except for the D8xx series, this means a pretty big cut in pixels. Not that that is all bad. I still use my D40, a 6MP DX camera because within its capabilities, I get very clean images because there is no pixel packing. The D810 tops out at about 15MP which is not bad, just not what you can get in say a D7200. I like to use DX for my telephoto work with animals and birds and FX for my street and ultra wide requirements. In the end, it really boils down to what you want to achieve. Only you can decide that.

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Jun 29, 2017 15:43:56   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
D810 unless Nikon comes out with an upgrade.

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Jun 29, 2017 16:18:17   #
Dwolfe1941
 
I had an opportunity to talk with two photographers at an art show last week who set up a sales exhibit side-by-side. One used DX, and the other used FX, and both strongly believed they had the advantage. I was unable to discern any difference between the two in quality of photos.

My first endeavor at photography was 30 years ago, and I was fully equipped with Hasselblad medium format film equipment. I am of the opinion that you would have to move to medium format to really make a difference as compared with full frame 35mm or DX.

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Jun 29, 2017 16:37:22   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Dwolfe1941 wrote:
I had an opportunity to talk with two photographers at an art show last week who set up a sales exhibit side-by-side. One used DX, and the other used FX, and both strongly believed they had the advantage. I was unable to discern any difference between the two in quality of photos.

My first endeavor at photography was 30 years ago, and I was fully equipped with Hasselblad medium format film equipment. I am of the opinion that you would have to move to medium format to really make a difference as compared with full frame 35mm or DX.
I had an opportunity to talk with two photographer... (show quote)


Are you saying that bigger is better?

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Jun 29, 2017 16:54:14   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Dwolfe1941 wrote:
I had an opportunity to talk with two photographers at an art show last week who set up a sales exhibit side-by-side. One used DX, and the other used FX, and both strongly believed they had the advantage. I was unable to discern any difference between the two in quality of photos.

My first endeavor at photography was 30 years ago, and I was fully equipped with Hasselblad medium format film equipment. I am of the opinion that you would have to move to medium format to really make a difference as compared with full frame 35mm or DX.
I had an opportunity to talk with two photographer... (show quote)


Just how large were the photos that were being displayed? It also depends on what the subject is as to whether dx or fx would be the better choice of camera.....and megapixels would not be the determining factor.

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Jun 29, 2017 17:02:49   #
asiafish Loc: Bakersfield, CA
 
zumarose wrote:
The DF is definitely droolworthy. Very tempted by it. Thanks for the heads up.


I believe B&H has refurbished Df bodies for around $1800 and body+50/1.8 lens kits for about $2000.

The Df is an outstanding camera, likely to be replaced soon, which makes such good refurb prices possible.

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Jun 29, 2017 17:21:23   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
zumarose wrote:
I'm slowly educating myself through experience and resources such as this one. I've been shooting for about 5 years.

I started with a Nikon d3100 and moved to a d5200. I've got all the lenses I need to keep me covered (which doesn't mean that I don't covet more stuff) but I realized after I bought the d5200 that I should have made a more significant move to a full frame rather than a more advanced crop sensor camera.

Although I'm a hobbyist I am challenging myself to shoot for others and to stretch myself. I'm the "official" photographer for my Zen Center and I shoot all their ceremonies and they feature my photos on their site, I volunteer to shoot local businesses and give them the photos so they get something and I get the experience.

My end game is to still enjoy photography as an art form but to get good enough that I can make a couple of bucks shooting here and there when I retire (about 5 years away) so that I can enjoy a better quality of cat food.

So I figured I might as well start working with full frame now and get really used to it. Is my thinking flawed? If not, what would be a good quality but not too crazy expensive full frame Nikon camera that I could keep and use for a long time? I only need the body. I also have reservations about the additional weight a full frame would bring to my camera bag. So I don't want to go super heavy.

Will the lenses I currently use with my d5200 work? I have the Nikon 18-200 mm zoom, the Nikon 1.8 35 mm prime, the Tamron 90 mm, and the Tokina 11-16 mm.

Please don't suggest I should get a Canon.
I'm slowly educating myself through experience and... (show quote)


I recommend a refurbished D5500. The 24MP sensor without low pass filter will do you better than a full frame with your DX lenses. You'd only get 16MP with a D810 and 10 MP with a D750 or D610 and your DX lenses.

If you go FX you'd need to get FX lenses. They are bigger, heavier, and much more expensive than DX lenses.

Plus you might really miss the articulated screen and elegant control approach of the D5xxxs. And the D5500 makes control via the Info screen better with the touch screen.

I have a D5300 and D800. I use the D5300 much more than the D800.

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Jun 29, 2017 17:24:36   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
asiafish wrote:
I believe B&H has refurbished Df bodies for around $1800 and body+50/1.8 lens kits for about $2000.

The Df is an outstanding camera, likely to be replaced soon, which makes such good refurb prices possible.


The AF 50 f1.8 is only about $125.

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