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Jun 16, 2017 11:59:47   #
crphoto8 Loc: Anaheim, California
 
I'm considering a move to a lighter system from my Canon 5D Mk3, 3 L lenses, battery grip, GPS module, etc.
I've looked at several mirror-less candidates from Canon, Sony, etc. My current leaders are the Olympus E-M1
and the Fuji X-T2. There're many reviews and comparisons (Mirrorless Comparison has extensive, in depth articles)
so getting enough info is really not an issue. I went to my local camera store and held both cameras. So far it's pretty
close since both bodies have advantages but it's fair to say that you can't go wrong with either one of these cameras.

However, here's an issue that may tilt the choice in favor of the E-M1 - Olympus offers 3 PRO zoom lenses, the 7-14,
12-40 and 40-150, all of them at constant f2.8. Fuji doesn't have a similar lineup even though they have some f2.8
lenses. Either system is very expensive but I'm looking for eventual configuration which I may acquire over time to
minimize the pocket hit.

I would like to solicit your thoughts, comments, corrections, etc. One last item is that I still travel overseas and that's the main reason
to go light on the photo gear.

Thanks, Sam

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Jun 16, 2017 12:24:46   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
Are you a "pro"? Do you print larger than 14" x 20"? If not, why do you need "pro" gear?

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Jun 16, 2017 12:25:02   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
Are you a "pro"? Do you print larger than 14" x 20"? If not, why do you need "pro" gear?

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Jun 16, 2017 12:38:30   #
HallowedHill Loc: Chattanooga, TN
 
Sam I was faced with this delima earlier this year but my canidates were slightly differnt: M1-MarK II vs XT1. I finally decided on the MII for a couple of reasons. First the MII IS system is more robust and at age 68 I suspect shake will be an issue in the near future. Secondly I settled on the Oly 12-100 and Panlica 100 - 400 lens. This way I am covered from 12 to 400 (24 to 800 if you figure the crop factor). The only limitation is the lack of the 2.8 apature and I don't have that much need for it. While the Fuji lens are very good, the Oly lens are, and especially the 12-100, excellant. I am also partial to zooms and Fuji is more limited in that area. Here are a couple of links with a fellow poster that helped me decide:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/private-message-inbox?pmnum=708913

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/private-message-inbox?pmnum=708557

Hope this helps, and you realy can't go wrong either way, thier both fine systems.

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Jun 16, 2017 12:51:10   #
Pro1
 
Most important is the detailed sharpness, color, clarity in the shadows and saturation. So ask your self which one meets these? I would like to hear your response.

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Jun 16, 2017 14:52:40   #
crphoto8 Loc: Anaheim, California
 
Good question. I don't print anything but I do severe cropping on occasion such as wildlife shooting where I may get a faraway bird.
My reasons for going with the PRO line lenses are sharpness, large maximum f stop, weather sealing and increase in image stabilization (camera plus lens).

jackpinoh wrote:
Are you a "pro"? Do you print larger than 14" x 20"? If not, why do you need "pro" gear?

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Jun 16, 2017 15:00:25   #
crphoto8 Loc: Anaheim, California
 
Thanks for the input, I knew that other UHH posters might have faced the same issues that I'm looking at right now. Right now you can get a nice discount if you combine the E-M1 Mk2 body with PRO lenses. Look at both Olympus and B&H. You can save up to $1,000 (or maybe only $900) if you get all 3 lenses that I mentioned in my OP.
BTW, it'll not let me read the private messages you added. Thanks for that as it still gives me an idea about the issue.

HallowedHill wrote:
Sam I was faced with this delima earlier this year but my canidates were slightly differnt: M1-MarK II vs XT1. I finally decided on the MII for a couple of reasons. First the MII IS system is more robust and at age 68 I suspect shake will be an issue in the near future. Secondly I settled on the Oly 12-100 and Panlica 100 - 400 lens. This way I am covered from 12 to 400 (24 to 800 if you figure the crop factor). The only limitation is the lack of the 2.8 apature and I don't have that much need for it. While the Fuji lens are very good, the Oly lens are, and especially the 12-100, excellant. I am also partial to zooms and Fuji is more limited in that area. Here are a couple of links with a fellow poster that helped me decide:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/private-message-inbox?pmnum=708913

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/private-message-inbox?pmnum=708557

Hope this helps, and you realy can't go wrong either way, thier both fine systems.
Sam I was faced with this delima earlier this year... (show quote)

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Jun 16, 2017 15:04:57   #
jackpi Loc: Southwest Ohio
 
crphoto8 wrote:
I'm considering a move to a lighter system from my Canon 5D Mk3, 3 L lenses, battery grip, GPS module, etc.
I've looked at several mirror-less candidates from Canon, Sony, etc. My current leaders are the Olympus E-M1
and the Fuji X-T2. There're many reviews and comparisons (Mirrorless Comparison has extensive, in depth articles)
so getting enough info is really not an issue. I went to my local camera store and held both cameras. So far it's pretty
close since both bodies have advantages but it's fair to say that you can't go wrong with either one of these cameras.

However, here's an issue that may tilt the choice in favor of the E-M1 - Olympus offers 3 PRO zoom lenses, the 7-14,
12-40 and 40-150, all of them at constant f2.8. Fuji doesn't have a similar lineup even though they have some f2.8
lenses. Either system is very expensive but I'm looking for eventual configuration which I may acquire over time to
minimize the pocket hit.

I would like to solicit your thoughts, comments, corrections, etc. One last item is that I still travel overseas and that's the main reason
to go light on the photo gear.

Thanks, Sam
I'm considering a move to a lighter system from my... (show quote)

If you are posting on the internet or making prints that are 19x13 or smaller, almost any MFT or APS-C camera available today will do.

I mainly photograph landscapes for large prints. (30x40). I use full frame cameras such as the Nikon D810 and Sony A7R2. For smaller landscape prints I would consider the Fuji X-T2 to be a better option than the E-M1 Mk2, because the X-T2 has better dynamic range. For street photography, I think the E-M1 is a better choice because of its superb in-body stabilization system.

Note that most of your photographs will be between f/4 and f/11 to get sufficient depth of field, so, except for portraits, you will rarely be shooting at f/2.8. An f/2.8 lens is not necessarily a better quality lens than an f/4 lens, but it will weigh more and cost more.

In any case, your skills at composition, exposure, and post processing are considerable more important than your choice between these two cameras.

You can find an excellent review of the X-T2 at:
https://www.exploringexposure.com/blog/2016/11/7/review-fujifilm-x-t2-for-landscape-photography

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Jun 16, 2017 16:44:40   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
You really need to take a closer look at the Fuji lenses. There are some exceptional lenses included, both prime and zoom. If you are struggling with trying to compare apples-to-apples focal lengths you are, no disrepect intended, on a fools errand. Fuji designers don't chase Oly/Pany designs and vice versa. The closest you will get is to say "such and such lens" is like or similar to "such and such". I've used three Fuji lenses so far and been deeply impressed with all three, but especially with the 56mm f/1.2 prime which totally blew me away. Coming up Fuji has a 'Mark II' version of its 18mm f/2.8 (27mm field of view) and a brand new 105mm f/2.8 MACRO (probably 150mm equivalent, but specs are not final yet) + more lenses in the mill for 2018.

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Jun 16, 2017 16:45:31   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
jackpinoh wrote:
Are you a "pro"? Do you print larger than 14" x 20"? If not, why do you need "pro" gear?


Perhaps he just wants the best he can afford. Don't need to be a pro to use pro gear.

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Jun 17, 2017 06:47:17   #
morvib
 
The Fuji has the bigger sensor and the lenses are better quality. The downside is that Fuji are more expensive.

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Jun 17, 2017 07:35:08   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
HallowedHill wrote:


Links to private messages cannot be read by anyone other than the recipient.

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Jun 17, 2017 08:00:01   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
jackpinoh wrote:
Are you a "pro"? Do you print larger than 14" x 20"? If not, why do you need "pro" gear?


Excellent "put down". Some of us care to get the best IQ possible when we point our cameras. Others are satisfied with snapshots. A few years ago I went to Italy. Shooting with a D70s and the best glass I could afford to take "vacation" pictures. Took a shot in Sienna that was great. Printed it at 16"x24", matted and framed and sold it. So that's WHY. You can stay with your plastic kit stuff.

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Jun 17, 2017 08:22:52   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
Fotomacher wrote:
Excellent "put down". Some of us care to get the best IQ possible when we point our cameras. Others are satisfied with snapshots. A few years ago I went to Italy. Shooting with a D70s and the best glass I could afford to take "vacation" pictures. Took a shot in Sienna that was great. Printed it at 16"x24", matted and framed and sold it. So that's WHY. You can stay with your plastic kit stuff.


My "vacation" pictures ever since I started using the Fuji X-T2 with their 18-135 zoom lens and the Rokinon 12mm lens have no less quality than the ones I used to take while lugging my Nikon D800 and D700 with the Nikon 17-35 f/2.8 and 70-200 VRII f/2.8.

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Jun 17, 2017 08:56:13   #
Dukesr Loc: Charleston,SC
 
I use the Olympus OMD M1 mark II and shoot with a friend who uses the Fuji. I used to shoot Canon and he Nikon. We both changed for the reason you mentioned - weight. I think that the larger sensor in the Fuji give him an advantage while my lenses are lighter. I have three PRO lenses (no jackpinoh I'm not a pro): the 7-14, 12-40, and the 40-150. When we shoot together I'm jealous of his results. He does, however, shoot a lot more than I do, spends more time with his pictures, and studies photography more. After shooting with him a mutual friend has changed from Canon to Fuji. If you want to privare message me I can try to answer questions, discuss some of the pluses and minuses of the Oly. It may be up to 10 days before I reply since I'm in Colorado shooting currently. My friend reads UHH religiously so he may want to jump in.

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