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Jun 8, 2017 08:35:08   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
jim in TC wrote:
It will be really valuable for her to get out to a camera shop (preferably) or if none nearby a big box that features cameras prominently (Best Buy comes to mind) and handle a few cameras. <snip>


Good advice with a caution. If you end up at Best Buy be careful when listening to the store staff. The Best Buy staff are not former professional or advanced amateur photogs. They have no idea what they are talking about.

Unfortunately, the same has to be said about many local camera stores. Competition has made some hire less than knowledgeable staff.

You might want to post a new topic looking for good camera stores near you. For instance a post titled "Looking for a good camera store in the Philadelphia area" would quickly get you responses naming Allen's Camera and Video.

I am sure someone here would know the best Camera Store near you.

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Jun 8, 2017 09:14:27   #
RLSeipleSr Loc: North of Boston
 
wesm wrote:
... A friend wants to get a good entry-level camera ...


Canon SX60 HS ... !

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Jun 8, 2017 10:00:20   #
jackpi Loc: Southwest Ohio
 
wesm wrote:
First of all, I did use the search function, and the most recent thread matching these keywords was from 2015. Seems like things have changed enough in two years to merit another summary.

A friend wants to get a good entry-level camera. I asked here what she wanted to photograph, she basically said landscape, nature, people. So first I suggested that her phone would be good enough. I think she wants to get more into composition, where depth of field becomes more important. Budget is around $500.
First of all, I did use the search function, and t... (show quote)

http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/cameras/

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Jun 8, 2017 10:38:27   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Used refurbished borrowed Canon SL1

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Jun 8, 2017 11:05:14   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
For such a person, I'd look for a pocket camera, fixed moderate zoom lens, capable of Manual mode along with all the other common modes. Then trade up when they're ready if necessary.

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Jun 8, 2017 11:46:33   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
mas24 wrote:
Nikon has a D3400, 24 megapixels, with a 2 lens kit, a 18-55mm and a non VR 70-300mm lens for $497 from B&H. My preference would be the D3300, with 24 megapixels, with a 2 lens kit, the 18-55mm and a 55-200mm lens for $547. B&H has both camera packages, but the D3300 is on backorder. The D3400 package is within your $500 budget. Or you could get a good Bridge Camera within that $500 budget too. Good luck.



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Jun 8, 2017 12:00:31   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Lots of good suggestions here, but a big question for her is what style of camera is she interested in, then go from there. I'd have to say that if she is just looking to move up from a cell phone camera to a real camera so she can further her photographic skills but not get to sophisticated, then the suggestion of a compact camera is a good one. It'll be light and compact, have all the controls of a bigger camera, but easy to use without having to deal with the daunting task of trying to choose which lenses she needs. As an alternative, a good bridge camera would be another good choice. While still fairly easy to use and learn, it also gives the convenience of a decent zoom range as well. If, after awhile she decides that she's hooked on photography, then that would be the time to start looking at more sophisticated equipment.

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Jun 8, 2017 12:13:46   #
jim in TC Loc: Traverse City, Michigan
 
[quote=dsmeltz]Good advice with a caution. If you end up at Best Buy be careful when listening to the store staff. The Best Buy staff are not former professional or advanced amateur photogs. They have no idea what they are talking about.

No doubt it is good to assume that the staff is clueless, though I have found on occasion the BB staff in various departments (including at least on one visit to their camera section) to actually be knowledgeable and/or enthusiasts. That said, advice from a (good) camera shop is likely to be far better. I patronize our local camera shop even in the face of (sometimes, not always) better prices elsewhere because I value their advice. Though even there, during busy times (Christmas, summer in this touristy area) one has to be a bit more cautious if someone new is behind the counter.

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Jun 8, 2017 12:30:21   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
RLSeipleSr wrote:
Canon SX60 HS ... !


I fully second that choice, especially since The Canon website offers Factory Referbished SX60. Most people buy more than they will use or need. If the person is still interested in getting more into photography at a later time the the SX60 will become the backup, travel, animal/bird photography go to camera. But buying a DSLR , like cel phones, becomes somewhat obsolete as time marches on, more features for the same or less $$$$ will be what you find in a year or so. You would not go out and buy a BMW as your 1st car. Happy shooting

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Jun 8, 2017 12:33:45   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Lots of good suggestions here, but a big question for her is what style of camera is she interested in, then go from there. I'd have to say that if she is just looking to move up from a cell phone camera to a real camera so she can further her photographic skills but not get to sophisticated, then the suggestion of a compact camera is a good one. It'll be light and compact, have all the controls of a bigger camera, but easy to use without having to deal with the daunting task of trying to choose which lenses she needs. As an alternative, a good bridge camera would be another good choice. While still fairly easy to use and learn, it also gives the convenience of a decent zoom range as well. If, after awhile she decides that she's hooked on photography, then that would be the time to start looking at more sophisticated equipment.
Lots of good suggestions here, but a big question ... (show quote)


I was thing long the same line. A bridge camera is a good way to start. An y of the manufacturers cameras will do just fine. A used Canon sx50 is a good possibility. Some of the members here have posted amazing photos with that camera.

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Jun 8, 2017 12:34:59   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Small, lightweight, non-obtrusive, and best of all, it's mirrorless.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1238281-REG/olympus_v207051bu000_om_d_e_m10_mark_ii.html

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Jun 8, 2017 12:38:38   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Small, lightweight, non-obtrusive, and best of all, it's mirrorless.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1238281-REG/olympus_v207051bu000_om_d_e_m10_mark_ii.html


Looks nice. Starting over I would seriously go mirrorless.

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Jun 8, 2017 12:44:10   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Looks nice. Starting over I would seriously go mirrorless.


and the lenses to go with it.
http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/outlet/reconditioned-lenses/m-zuiko-digital-17mm-f1-8-black-reconditioned.html
http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/outlet/reconditioned-lenses/m-zuiko-25mm-f1-8-black-reconditioned.html
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or
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Jun 8, 2017 12:53:13   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
jim in TC wrote:
No doubt it is good to assume that the staff is clueless, though I have found on occasion the BB staff in various departments (including at least on one visit to their camera section) to actually be knowledgeable and/or enthusiasts. That said, advice from a (good) camera shop is likely to be far better. I patronize our local camera shop even in the face of (sometimes, not always) better prices elsewhere because I value their advice. Though even there, during busy times (Christmas, summer in this touristy area) one has to be a bit more cautious if someone new is behind the counter.
No doubt it is good to assume that the staff is cl... (show quote)


To be fair, BB's computer staff is usually better than the staff in other departments. Even the computer sales staff seems either competent themselves or quite willing to find the staffer who does know. But I have never found anyone in a BB camera section who seemed to know anything reliable.

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Jun 8, 2017 12:58:18   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
dsmeltz wrote:
To be fair, BB's computer staff is usually better than the staff in other departments. Even the computer sales staff seems either competent themselves or quite willing to find the staffer who does know. But I have never found anyone in a BB camera section who seemed to know anything reliable.


We have 2 BB's here in Anchorage. One of them doesn't have anyone in the camera department that knows anything. If you ask them about a camera, they will say that it's a good one, for sure. And that's about it for knowledge. At the other store, the camera department manager, himself, is very knowledgeable, and I think, is or has been a pro. He was very helpful when I bought my D7200 there. He knew about all the different cameras, lenses, etc. So not all BB's camera department sales reps are clueless. It does help to arm oneself with some knowledge before going shopping there, though.

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