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May 30, 2017 17:33:25   #
whitewolfowner
 
burkphoto wrote:
If you are doing a hollywood production or a TV show, then yes, there are appropriate high end camcorders for that. For most casual video users on this forum, a hybrid camera likely makes better sense.

I haven't found any real limitations to what I can do with a mirrorless camera in my work. The dSLR crowd may have some limits I don't. But if you are an independent filmmaker, ad agency, documentary filmmaker on a budget, corporate trainer, and the like, a mirrorless camera from Sony, Panasonic, or Fujifilm may be all you need. Besides, it makes a great stills camera.

I can do a lot more with video on the GH4 than I used to do with a "commercial and industrial" level camcorder costing twice as much. I'm able to record everything I need, in one take, with the same system simultaneously capturing stills and video. I work out of one bag that fits under an airline seat.

I used to carry two Pelican cases with a Canon still camera system in one, and a Canon video camcorder in the other. I had to have help getting to the airport with one checked bag, one carry-on bag, and at least two cases for a cross-country trip... as many as four cases, if I took lights. I had to think completely differently when I put down one camera and picked up another.

I can't tell you how liberating it is to use ONE system for stills and video, and to simply extract the stills I need for manuals and PDF files and online eLearning content, straight from the video, in many cases. I'm really excited, because two camera companies share the same lenses. And those camera companies are racing to out-do each other with each new camera they release.
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As long as the camera stays still while filming, they work OK, but as soon as one starts to move while filming or panning; that's where the problems come in.

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May 30, 2017 17:46:17   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
As long as the camera stays still while filming, they work OK, but as soon as one starts to move while filming or panning; that's where the problems come in.


Try the GH5 with Dual IS II. No problems with shake, and very minimal rolling shutter compared to all dSLRs and other mirrorless cameras.

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May 30, 2017 20:00:53   #
Sinewsworn Loc: Port Orchard, WA
 
Toment wrote:
As Margo Martindale, playing Mags Bennet, said in Justified, "it was in the glass."


Justified.

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May 31, 2017 11:17:16   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
You have to pan slow and that is good videography. I one other thought the lighter
cameras are addictive. I had the D800 with the 70 200 good stuff but it weighed a bunch.,
My a6300 (cropped sensor) with the 16 70mm zeiss can take photos and video as good
or better then my nikons. I will have to duck now. Good luck. T

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May 31, 2017 15:03:07   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Getting back to the subject of this thread, I'm guessing that those who have a serious investment in lenses are more tied to that mount than those of us who are not so bound.

In 1979 I purchased my first SLR, a Pentax K-mount; sixteen years later I had a total of three lenses, 28mm prime, 50mm prime, and 75-210mm zoom, so when I became convinced that Canon's then-new EF-mount system was superior to anything Pentax or Nikon was providing, moving to Canon was natural and easy for me. By 2015 I had a few more EF-mount lenses than the K-mount lenses I'd had in 1995, but when I became convinced that Pentax's lower-tier bodies are better than the Canon Rebels I was using, moving back to Pentax was relatively easy.

I'm guessing someone who had a collection of white Canon lenses, or Pentax "limited" primes could not switch nearly so easily, and most likely would be really resistant to changing over to one of the modern MILC systems unless s/he could make seamless use of her/his old lenses.

Note: much of the pressure behind Pentax's developing its new FF K-1 seems to have come from Pentax loyalists who were not satisfied with using their valued primes on the top-of-the-line APS-C K-3ii, because they wanted to use each prime "as it was designed to be used", in other words, they wanted 35mm to be mild wide-angle, 50mm to be normal, and 85mm to be mild telephoto, just as they were in the days of film.

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Jun 1, 2017 09:14:58   #
Jim Bob
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
I had Nikon cameras and glass for years. On my desk right now is a AF Nikkor 85mm 1.8. Not sure how old it is.
Have a metabones convertor on it. A few years ago I started acquiring Sony mirrorless camera's.
And their camcorders which were great for the price. Sony glass has been catching up for the last few years.
It was video I got frustrated with Nikon. So slowly a lot of the Nikon glass was traded. Had cameras like the NEX series.
Size and image quality won out. Excuse me for saying again it was the Nikon D7000 and a video I did in a school for
disabled children that hooked me on video. Then bought the Sony HXR‑NX30 camcorder with great floating lens in good
image quality. This started the Sony innovation grab bag. The a7s impressed me. The XDCam's were amazing for the price.
Did I give up stills? No.Got a call a couple weeks ago about a year end school celebration in an hour here. Could I shoot some images.
Grabbed my Sony 6300 and 16 70 Zeiss lens and ran over to the culture center. Great group shots and performers
on stage. No flash shots. I now have some good Sony glass which is a investment.
I would love to have Canon glass for my video and stills but the glass is to expensive. If we have a lot invested
in decent or exceptional glass I think this is what keeps us with a brand. Their is no Canon or Nikon or Sony
battle like some do here. They are all very good creators of wonderful image makers. It is the glass we own.
I had Nikon cameras and glass for years. On my des... (show quote)

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

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Jun 1, 2017 09:42:24   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
Thank you Burkphoto for your great understanding of todays film making. The GH5 appears to be an amazing camera.
Getting back to the thread the lens (excuse me) started the DSLR surge started with a short film made with Canon mark II?.
Why because of economics and lens that were affordable. Video film cameras and lens were very expensive. Cooke, Zeiss
Arri etc lens were in the thousands. Yes a camcorder has advantages shooting quickly and geared for convenience
for a lot of news and video making etc.
Suddenly a Canon Mark II and a canon 50mm lens and media cards that you could use for a long time
allowed pro video to be available for everyone. In 16mm documentary you needed thousands for film and processing.
The pro camcorder like betacam etc were thousand and thousand of dollars.
Now a GH5 or a6500 can make beautiful videos that can look like any film look.
Basically feature films are being made with an Arri Alexa and maybe a Red brain. Then lens
and all sorts of monitors and wires and monitors etc etc are attached to this setup.
My sony a7s with a cage a monitor and HDMI are smaller versions of the moviemaking system.

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