first trip to Butterfly Wonderland in Scottsdale Arizona
May 19, 2017 12:51:46 #
Use the macro lens. Use external flash at 1/16 intensity with a soft box (they make small soft boxes for flash). f5.6, SS 250, auto ISO, auto WB, wide focus, single shot mode, dail on M.
The above settings will elimnate the adjustments you need to make with your camera. Butterflies move faster than you think and you don't want miss the shot.
The above settings will elimnate the adjustments you need to make with your camera. Butterflies move faster than you think and you don't want miss the shot.
May 19, 2017 13:58:22 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
If you are planning on multiple visits anyway, suggest traveling light and avoid changing lenses on site. It may be crowded and if issues can be avoided, why not? I would take the 90mm on the first trip and the zoom on the second ( or vice-versa ). It could end up being more fun doing your PP and not have to worry about a second lens while you are shooting.
May 19, 2017 14:01:07 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
chapjohn wrote:
Use the macro lens. Use external flash at 1/16 intensity with a soft box (they make small soft boxes for flash). f5.6, SS 250, auto ISO, auto WB, wide focus, single shot mode, dail on M.
The above settings will elimnate the adjustments you need to make with your camera. Butterflies move faster than you think and you don't want miss the shot.
The above settings will elimnate the adjustments you need to make with your camera. Butterflies move faster than you think and you don't want miss the shot.
On-camera soft box could be fun. I was thinking maybe a ring flash as an option?
May 19, 2017 15:15:33 #
Robert Bailey
Loc: Canada
I was at Butterfly World in Florida about two months ago. I think this was my third visit there.
They don't allow tripods or monopods. I ended up using (for all of my shots) a 120 mm Pentax 645 macro lens
mounted on my Nikon D7100 body using an adaptor. The crop factor is 2.5 x, so I end up with the
"equivalent" of a 300 mm macro lens.
I have a ring light, a ring flash, and a ring light/flash combination unit.
Unfortunately, I only took the last piece of equipment and I found it didn't provide as much supplementary light
as I had hoped for.
They don't allow tripods or monopods. I ended up using (for all of my shots) a 120 mm Pentax 645 macro lens
mounted on my Nikon D7100 body using an adaptor. The crop factor is 2.5 x, so I end up with the
"equivalent" of a 300 mm macro lens.
I have a ring light, a ring flash, and a ring light/flash combination unit.
Unfortunately, I only took the last piece of equipment and I found it didn't provide as much supplementary light
as I had hoped for.
May 19, 2017 15:37:01 #
Robert Bailey wrote:
I was at Butterfly World in Florida about two mont... (show quote)
The crop factor for D7100 is 1.5X - just so we all know ....NOT 2.5X ! So, you end up with 180mm FF Equiv. .....
May 19, 2017 15:40:00 #
chapjohn wrote:
Use the macro lens. Use external flash at 1/16 intensity with a soft box (they make small soft boxes for flash). f5.6, SS 250, auto ISO, auto WB, wide focus, single shot mode, dail on M.
The above settings will elimnate the adjustments you need to make with your camera. Butterflies move faster than you think and you don't want miss the shot.
The above settings will elimnate the adjustments you need to make with your camera. Butterflies move faster than you think and you don't want miss the shot.
No DOF @ f5.6 ! ......most shutters will not flash sync @ 250 ......MAYBE yours does ??
May 19, 2017 16:11:42 #
lsupremo
Loc: Palm Desert, CA
I was hoping one of you repo dears would post some images from an interesting place like that, so I can decide if I want to drive 300 miles to see it.
May 19, 2017 20:04:06 #
Robert Bailey
Loc: Canada
Imagemeister said:
"The crop factor for D7100 is 1.5X - just so we all know ....NOT 2.5X ! So, you end up with 180mm FF Equiv. "
Imagemeister,
You did not clearly read my post.
I am not using a 35mm (Full Frame) (36 mm x 24 mm) size 120 mm lens for which the crop factor would indeed be 1.5 x.
I am using a MEDIUM FORMAT lens from a MEDIUM FORMAT Pentax 645 camera (60 mm x 45 mm).
For that, the crop factor is indeed 2.5 x.
Hence the "equivalent" becomes 120 mm x 2.5 equals 300 mm.
I also use a "full frame" 90 mm macro lens for which the crop factor is 1.5x.
The 90 mm becomes the "equivalent" of a 135 mm lens.
"The crop factor for D7100 is 1.5X - just so we all know ....NOT 2.5X ! So, you end up with 180mm FF Equiv. "
Imagemeister,
You did not clearly read my post.
I am not using a 35mm (Full Frame) (36 mm x 24 mm) size 120 mm lens for which the crop factor would indeed be 1.5 x.
I am using a MEDIUM FORMAT lens from a MEDIUM FORMAT Pentax 645 camera (60 mm x 45 mm).
For that, the crop factor is indeed 2.5 x.
Hence the "equivalent" becomes 120 mm x 2.5 equals 300 mm.
I also use a "full frame" 90 mm macro lens for which the crop factor is 1.5x.
The 90 mm becomes the "equivalent" of a 135 mm lens.
May 19, 2017 20:20:10 #
Robert Bailey wrote:
Imagemeister said: br "The crop factor for D7... (show quote)
I got news for you, 120mm is 120mm - no matter what camera it is made for ! - and has no bearing on equivalency ! The size sensor you are using DOES ! - You need to study this a bit more ......
May 19, 2017 22:33:39 #
Robert Bailey
Loc: Canada
Yes, yes, I'm aware that a 120 mm is a 120 mm.
In this case, the 120 mm is producing a medium format sized image circle.
Rather than "using" all of that image circle by using a medium format camera to "catch" it,
I'm using an APS-C sensor to crop a tiny portion out of the large image circle.
Call it whatever you want, it works well to photograph butterflies.
In this case, the 120 mm is producing a medium format sized image circle.
Rather than "using" all of that image circle by using a medium format camera to "catch" it,
I'm using an APS-C sensor to crop a tiny portion out of the large image circle.
Call it whatever you want, it works well to photograph butterflies.
May 19, 2017 23:02:16 #
Robert Bailey wrote:
Yes, yes, I'm aware that a 120 mm is a 120 mm.
In this case, the 120 mm is producing a medium format sized image circle.
Rather than "using" all of that image circle by using a medium format camera to "catch" it,
I'm using an APS-C sensor to crop a tiny portion out of the large image circle.
Call it whatever you want, it works well to photograph butterflies.
In this case, the 120 mm is producing a medium format sized image circle.
Rather than "using" all of that image circle by using a medium format camera to "catch" it,
I'm using an APS-C sensor to crop a tiny portion out of the large image circle.
Call it whatever you want, it works well to photograph butterflies.
This is all true !
May 19, 2017 23:21:21 #
There's a butterfly conservatory in the adjoining state that I visit annually and my best success comes with an off camera speedlight with diffuser, a 100mm macro and a 70-200. Generally speaking conservatories do not have enough available light to drive your lenses at higher F-Stops (deeper DOF) and you will be forced to either use flash or higher ISO at IQ cost. Using a flash I can easily shoot at F11-F16 at ISO 100 at 1/160th of a second. I'd also recommend a grey card because obtaining neutral colors requires correction with so much green light bandwidth.
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