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Use 120 film film in a 116/616 film camera
May 15, 2017 20:56:06   #
Quinn 4
 
Last fall I found a Zeiss Ikon Ikonta 520/15 (Model D) camera. Made modification to camera so I could use 120mm film in it. Date of manufacture of the camera is between 1931 to 1934. Cameras made between 1931 to 34 have only one red window on the back. Lens: Novar-Anastgmat 1: 6.3 120mm lens. Film speed setting: 100-50-25-B-T. Shutter Setting 6.3-8-11-16-32-45. No light meter or rangerfinder in or can be put on this camera, all line of sight and 13 rulers of light. You have to build a mask to put inside the camera. Use heavy black paper and black tape. Size of the mask 4.5 inches by 3 inches . Cut within the black paper a hole 2 5/16 inches by 1 3/4 inches. You end up with size from the side of the paper of inside hole to outside of the paper 1 1/8 inches on both sides. From the top of the inside hole to the top of black paper 9/16 of an inch, same for the bottom. Use black tape to hold the mask in place only put the tape on the top and bottom of the mask. You will need one 120 film spools and two plastic wall anchors(small size) Note: In the Zeiss Ikon Ikonta 520/15, you have two leaf spring in the left side film well. You will see three leaf spring, remove only the top one and the bottom one. If you don't the 120mm film spool will not go in. Red window on the back of camera has no cover-use black tape. You have only 6 pictures. Look thought the red window turn the film dial until you see the number 3,that is your setting for the first picture. For the rest of the pictures: 2- turn to 5 1/2 (guess work) 3-turn 8 // 4-turn to 10 1/2 // 5-turn to 13 // 6-turn 15 1/2. If some reading this has a better way for setting each picture or how to make better use of the film for more pictures. I am all ears. Use a tripod when taking pictures. NOTE: Open the camera first, than turn to you first picture. After taking a picture do not turn film dial to set for the next picture if you are going to closed the , because when opening the camera the bellows cause a vacuum inside it which will pull the film off the pressure plate. You will end up with a picture that is out of focus. Quinn4.

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May 15, 2017 21:27:50   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Here's some adapters you might find handy.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/616-to-120-Film-spool-camera-Adapter-Set-Kodak-Canon-Nikon-/252916308265?hash=item3ae2fc9929:g:2aIAAOSwXYtYztgI

--Bob

Quinn 4 wrote:
Last fall I found a Zeiss Ikon Ikonta 520/15 (Model D) camera. Made modification to camera so I could use 120mm film in it. Date of manufacture of the camera is between 1931 to 1934. Cameras made between 1931 to 34 have only one red window on the back. Lens: Novar-Anastgmat 1: 6.3 120mm lens. Film speed setting: 100-50-25-B-T. Shutter Setting 6.3-8-11-16-32-45. No light meter or rangerfinder in or can be put on this camera, all line of sight and 13 rulers of light. You have to build a mask to put inside the camera. Use heavy black paper and black tape. Size of the mask 4.5 inches by 3 inches . Cut within the black paper a hole 2 5/16 inches by 1 3/4 inches. You end up with size from the side of the paper of inside hole to outside of the paper 1 1/8 inches on both sides. From the top of the inside hole to the top of black paper 9/16 of an inch, same for the bottom. Use black tape to hold the mask in place only put the tape on the top and bottom of the mask. You will need one 120 film spools and two plastic wall anchors(small size) Note: In the Zeiss Ikon Ikonta 520/15, you have two leaf spring in the left side film well. You will see three leaf spring, remove only the top one and the bottom one. If you don't the 120mm film spool will not go in. Red window on the back of camera has no cover-use black tape. You have only 6 pictures. Look thought the red window turn the film dial until you see the number 3,that is your setting for the first picture. For the rest of the pictures: 2- turn to 5 1/2 (guess work) 3-turn 8 // 4-turn to 10 1/2 // 5-turn to 13 // 6-turn 15 1/2. If some reading this has a better way for setting each picture or how to make better use of the film for more pictures. I am all ears. Use a tripod when taking pictures. NOTE: Open the camera first, than turn to you first picture. After taking a picture do not turn film dial to set for the next picture if you are going to closed the , because when opening the camera the bellows cause a vacuum inside it which will pull the film off the pressure plate. You will end up with a picture that is out of focus. Quinn4.
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May 16, 2017 09:15:52   #
Quinn 4
 
Thank you, Bob for the information. Added information about my Zeiss Ikonta 520/15. Inside it are two label one said "Zeiss Ikon Film Pernox" the other said "Verchaly-Bd. Foch 8 bisAngers". That is the name of a camera store in Paris, France. Today that store is: Verchaly Optique-8bis Boulevard du Marechal Foch-4900 Angers-France. In 1932 the camera sold for 405 Francs or $15.91 in US's money.

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May 16, 2017 09:30:38   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Quinn, I used to shoot with a Zeiss Ikon 35mm. I still have it. I should see if the shutter times are still accurate and take it out and use it again.
--Bob

Quinn 4 wrote:
Thank you, Bob for the information. Added information about my Zeiss Ikonta 520/15. Inside it are two label one said "Zeiss Ikon Film Pernox" the other said "Verchaly-Bd. Foch 8 bisAngers". That is the name of a camera store in Paris, France. Today that store is: Verchaly Optique-8bis Boulevard du Marechal Foch-4900 Angers-France. In 1932 the camera sold for 405 Francs or $15.91 in US's money.

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May 16, 2017 09:45:07   #
Quinn 4
 
Bob: What Zeiss Ikon is it? Yes, get that Zeiss out and use.

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May 16, 2017 11:02:40   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
I've done the "hipster" thing by running 35mm in 120 cameras and respooled much 120 for my embarrassingly large collection of Kodak 620 format Kodak Brownies, But this got me to want to try some 120 in my 118 format No3 Kodak "folder"!

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May 16, 2017 13:57:21   #
Quinn 4
 
Good luck in use 120mm film in your 118 format No. Kodak, Let me known how you make out.

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May 16, 2017 14:05:48   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
Good luck in use 120mm film in your 118 format No. Kodak, Let me known how you make out.


I haven't​ checked the U Tubes or the magical Goog box, But I'm betting it's been at least tried. I'm a sucker for old "folders" so this is "up my alley"👍

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