Raw jpeg or both
May 3, 2017 10:49:42 #
Hello new here been shooting on and off for a while I'm going on vacation to the great Smoky Mountains and have borrowed a Canon 5DS to try out and since I only have a couple of real fast 32 gig cards I'm curious as to what others think as to whether I should shoot raw JPEG or both And on average how many shots should I be able to get on a 32 gig card
May 3, 2017 10:58:27 #
IMHO, I would shoot only RAW images as they can be considered a digital negative. Once you have an image recorded in RAW, you have a much wider choice in post processing. Personally speaking, its the only way I go. As to how many on the card, there should be some estimates on line. I shoot Nikon and am not familiar with the Canon bodies. I have my Nikons set to tell me how may files are left to be stored on the card and I would assume that Canon has something similar. Enjoy your trip. Bring back some fantastic images!
May 3, 2017 11:00:35 #
Thank you yeah I hope to bring home some great images and you're right all my old Canon bodies have a shots remaining counter but not being familiar with the 5DS I honestly didn't think about it I'm sure they probably do though
May 3, 2017 11:07:51 #
photoman022
Loc: Manchester CT USA
If you're comfortable with post processing I would only shoot in RAW, if not only in JPEG. As you only have two 32 gig cards, I would conserve as much space as possible. The other alternative is go and buy a number of 16 gig cards (I bought a package of 8 last years for about $10), they are much less expensive than the 32 gig cards.
May 3, 2017 11:29:28 #
Well I had read that as the 5DS has 50.1 megapixels that it needed a super fast write speed on the card and those cards aren't real cheap. And I was considering JPEG because my post processing skills tend to be lacking but that's why I was asking others opinion as I have been shooting on and off for a while I still consider myself quite the rookie
May 3, 2017 11:41:46 #
RAW for post processing flexibility, JPG if you want to instantly upload to social media. My Nikon D810 in RAW only mode, can store 785 full frame images on a 32 Gb SD card.
If you think you post processing skills are lacking, there is no end to tutorials on the YouTubes.
If you think you post processing skills are lacking, there is no end to tutorials on the YouTubes.
May 3, 2017 12:58:14 #
cplchip wrote:
Well I had read that as the 5DS has 50.1 megapixels that it needed a super fast write speed on the card and those cards aren't real cheap. And I was considering JPEG because my post processing skills tend to be lacking but that's why I was asking others opinion as I have been shooting on and off for a while I still consider myself quite the rookie
That fast write speed only comes into play with multiple shots/bursts in a short time. Just take plenty of cards or a laptop with lots of room on the drive to download everyday so you can reuse the cards.
The RAW will give more options for PP, even if you don't consider yourself good at it. In future when you are better you can go back to a few of the best shots and redo them (if you use LR, or save a copy of the Out of Camera shot before you do any PP on it.)
The 5Ds has 64mb files in RAW according to several on line references. (ISO 100, higher ISO = bigger file up to 88mb at ISO 12800).
So you will need lots of storage.
It is also recommended that you format each card in the 5Ds before using. Otherwise you can have problems.
May 3, 2017 13:02:27 #
cplchip wrote:
Hello new here been shooting on and off for a while I'm going on vacation to the great Smoky Mountains and have borrowed a Canon 5DS to try out and since I only have a couple of real fast 32 gig cards I'm curious as to what others think as to whether I should shoot raw JPEG or both And on average how many shots should I be able to get on a 32 gig card
You just put that card into the camera, turn it on and it will tell you how many shots are available!
May 3, 2017 13:54:09 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
RAW for post processing flexibility, JPG if you want to instantly upload to social media. My Nikon D810 in RAW only mode, can store 785 full frame images on a 32 Gb SD card.
If you think you post processing skills are lacking, there is no end to tutorials on the YouTubes.
If you think you post processing skills are lacking, there is no end to tutorials on the YouTubes.
First, your D810 has a 36mp sensor. The 5Ds has a 50mp sensor so its raw images will be much larger, reducing the capacity on a 32gb card significantly. Secondly, if he shoots Large Fine jpegs on the 5Ds instead, the OP can forget about "instantly" uploading to social media since the jpeg file size will probably be around 25 to 30mb for each image. He'll have to reduce the size first. If he instead selects an in-camera jpeg size small enough​ to upload, he might as well not even bother using the high resolution 5Ds in the first place. Finally, shooting Large raw and Large Fine jpegs together will fill a 32gb card very quickly. Frankly, my opinion is if the OP doesn't shoot raw with a 5Ds, he'll be giving up the opportunity to get the best from that camera. He can always create jpegs from the raw files as needed.
May 3, 2017 14:40:36 #
cplchip wrote:
Hello new here been shooting on and off for a while I'm going on vacation to the great Smoky Mountains and have borrowed a Canon 5DS to try out and since I only have a couple of real fast 32 gig cards I'm curious as to what others think as to whether I should shoot raw JPEG or both And on average how many shots should I be able to get on a 32 gig card
I would shoot raw only.
There are free and paid for applications that can quickly extract jpegs from raw files.
In some situations, a jpeg can never work because the dynamic range is too narrow. To get a useful image you'd have to use less exposure, which would result in an ugly jpg. But using the raw file you can reveal shadows in ways that are not possible with jpg, and still have a better image.
If you are worried about card space, then just shoot regular raw files.
May 3, 2017 14:48:24 #
cplchip wrote:
Well I had read that as the 5DS has 50.1 megapixels that it needed a super fast write speed on the card and those cards aren't real cheap. And I was considering JPEG because my post processing skills tend to be lacking but that's why I was asking others opinion as I have been shooting on and off for a while I still consider myself quite the rookie
Raw post processing is considerably easier and faster than processing jpgs. It's been that way for a while.
May 3, 2017 15:28:26 #
Gene51 wrote:
Raw post processing is considerably easier and faster than processing jpgs. It's been that way for a while.
I'm pleased someone is brave enough to state that here.
May 3, 2017 15:55:45 #
Thank you for all the responses I believe y'all have convinced me to shoot in raw and all your answers make perfect sense thank you
May 3, 2017 16:03:19 #
cplchip wrote:
Thank you for all the responses I believe y'all have convinced me to shoot in raw and all your answers make perfect sense thank you
Many photographers here have good responses that are useful as well as practical.
May 3, 2017 17:14:48 #
a6k
Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
My Sony RX10m3 may behave differently than the Canons and Nikons of the above posts. However, I'd just like to point out an apparent drawback to shooting RAW only as opposed to RAW+JPG.
The embedded jpg in a RAW file (I am assuming it exists because many have said so) is very low resolution. If the "review" function of the camera has to rely only on that, the reviewed image immediately after the shot will not necessarily look very good, especially with regard to sharpness. That was my experience when experimenting with this subject.
But when I shot RAW+JPG the review showed me the JPG. When shooting birds, I find that have to take a lot of exposures to ensure at least one good one with respect to sharp focus on the right part of the subject, exposure and, of course, composition.
So I went back to wasting some space on the SD card and shoot both at once. I only use the JPG for immediate review and for culling. I do all my "best" stuff with post processing the RAW.
Just my two cents.
The embedded jpg in a RAW file (I am assuming it exists because many have said so) is very low resolution. If the "review" function of the camera has to rely only on that, the reviewed image immediately after the shot will not necessarily look very good, especially with regard to sharpness. That was my experience when experimenting with this subject.
But when I shot RAW+JPG the review showed me the JPG. When shooting birds, I find that have to take a lot of exposures to ensure at least one good one with respect to sharp focus on the right part of the subject, exposure and, of course, composition.
So I went back to wasting some space on the SD card and shoot both at once. I only use the JPG for immediate review and for culling. I do all my "best" stuff with post processing the RAW.
Just my two cents.
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.