16 TB SSD for the Enterprise Market? What's the Enterprise market? At 2:55 or so it mentions it. Are they building this for the Enterprise, used in space?:sm02: Marion...

Marionsho Loc: Kansas

What's the Enterprise market?
At 2:55 or so it mentions it.
Are they building this for the Enterprise, used in space?

mas24 Loc: Southern CA

That's a lot of storage. It took 51 years to get to 1TB in 2007, and 2TB in 2009. Now 16TB in 2017. That's progress. Not eligible for PC yet, but will be once they figure out how to lower the prices for consumers. I can see the future ads now. "Be the first to get Dell's New PC with 16TB of SSD. " I wondering what the RAM would be?

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Marionsho wrote:

What's the Enterprise market?
At 2:55 or so it mentions it.
Are they building this for the Enterprise, used in space?

Marion

https://youtu.be/mx4Z8hnBowM

It's designed for operation 24/7, like the HGST Ultrastar and others.

Marionsho Loc: Kansas

jerryc41 wrote:

It's designed for operation 24/7, like the HGST Ultrastar and others.

Thanks Jerry. I watched another video about a 60 TB SSD Hard Drive!

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

And when I first got into computing {fifty years ago!}, the standard 300MB disk drive was roughly the size of a typical washing machine {the size of a typical washing machine hasn't changed much during that time}

dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl

Marionsho wrote:

What's the Enterprise market?
At 2:55 or so it mentions it.
Are they building this for the Enterprise, used in space?

Marion

https://youtu.be/mx4Z8hnBowM

The Enterprise Market is customers that need large shared storage for their servers on Large multi-server multi-site networks.

Of course they can be used by anyone wanting to spend the money but they were designed for large network servers that have very little down time.

Marionsho Loc: Kansas

dcampbell52 wrote:

The Enterprise Market is customers that need large shared storage for their servers on Large multi-server multi-site networks.

Of course they can be used by anyone wanting to spend the money but they were designed for large network servers that have very little down time.

Thank you David.

dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl

rehess wrote:

And when I first got into computing {fifty years ago!}, the standard 300MB disk drive was roughly the size of a typical washing machine {the size of a typical washing machine hasn't changed much during that time}

Lol and when I got into computer back in the day, I had a Corvus 10 mb hard drive and I couldn't imagine anyone needing half of that space. Of course I was running CPM and an 8byte processor.

When I worked for Magnetic Peripherals in OKC, I worked on the Phoenix 96 mb drives (about the size of a legal size drawer in a 2 drawer filing cabinet). It had a removable 14" disk

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

rehess wrote:

And when I first got into computing {fifty years ago!}, the standard 300MB disk drive was roughly the size of a typical washing machine {the size of a typical washing machine hasn't changed much during that time}

Yep, in 1965 when I worked for IBM, the 1311 disk pack was almost exactly the size (and shape) of a washing machine, and the (whopping) 64K of "core" storage on our shiney new 360 system was about 16" square.

blue-ultra Loc: New Hampshire

Back in 1964 my wife and I attended the Worlds Fair in Flushing NY. There was a display there of a computer system that took the entire floor of a building. I think the capacity was something like 16 kbs. Kids toys today have more power than that. BTW that thing was all tubes, can't imagine the electric bill to run that monster. But, hey, this was the beginning of the space age and we had to start somewhere.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

blue-ultra wrote:

Back in 1964 my wife and I attended the Worlds Fair in Flushing NY. There was a display there of a computer system that took the entire floor of a building. I think the capacity was something like 16 kbs. Kids toys today have more power than that. BTW that thing was all tubes, can't imagine the electric bill to run that monster. But, hey, this was the beginning of the space age and we had to start somewhere.

We lived just a few miles away at the time, so we saw everything over the two years it was there. The IBM Selectric was new then.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

blue-ultra wrote:

Back in 1964 my wife and I attended the Worlds Fair in Flushing NY. There was a display there of a computer system that took the entire floor of a building. I think the capacity was something like 16 kbs. Kids toys today have more power than that. BTW that thing was all tubes, can't imagine the electric bill to run that monster. But, hey, this was the beginning of the space age and we had to start somewhere.

When we put the new IBM 360s in at Duke, UNC and NC State in early '66, we replaced a tube-type Univac (12AT7 dual triodes I believe - 1 per flip-flop). The A/C plant to cool it was at least as large as the computer... BTW, the speed of that 360-30 was about 35KFlops(3.5x-10^4). 50 years later, the fastest supercomputers are running at close to 100 PFlops (1x10^17)!

dave.speeking Loc: Brooklyn OH

With 16TB SSD, who needs more RAM?
Page file can be used for RAM.
Maybe not for commercial use.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

dave.speeking wrote:

With 16TB SSD, who needs more RAM?
Page file can be used for RAM.
Maybe not for commercial use.

Interesting observation. While the transfer speed between DRAM and M.2 SSD is not that different ( DDR4 DRAM = 1.6-3.2 Gb/sec, M.2 SSD =2 Gb/sec. max), the access time is dramatically different: DRAM=20-35 nsec, M.2 SSD=35-100 usec. - SSD is three orders of magnitude slower.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

TriX wrote:

Interesting observation. While the transfer speed between DRAM and M.2 SSD is not that different ( DDR4 DRAM = 1.6-3.2 Gb/sec, M.2 SSD =2 Gb/sec. max), the access time is dramatically different: DRAM=20-35 nsec, M.2 SSD=35-100 usec. - SSD is three orders of magnitude slower.

When I was a grad student, I had a summer internship at a well-known government lab, where my assignment was to simulate a new network, back in the day when the Internet was first being implemented; "latency", the time required for a sector to rotate over to the read/write heads, was a major component of access time.

I do not know how timing works out for solid-state devices.