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May 1, 2017 15:10:45   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
SteveR wrote:
Of course he's concerned about her feelings. He's giving her a D810. Playing a joke or prank on somebody you love doesn't necessarily mean a lack of care for the other person's feelings. After all, after the initial shock he was going to immediately show her the new camera. However, he asked for our advice, and I think the best advice is not to disparage him but to encourage him to skip the prank and merely do a switch of camera and have her be surprised to get the D810 in return for the 7200.
Of course he's concerned about her feelings. He's... (show quote)

Giving her a D810 but making her suffer, however briefly, in order to get it is not my idea of generosity or of fatherly love. In his own words, his expectations of her reaction sounds like he will get enjoyment out of his cruelty and her suffering. That is plain mean. She's his daughter for heaven's sake. What is the benefit to anyone of him doing this except for his personal pleasure? His "generosity" towards her clearly comes with a price. It seems like a control thing to me. We don't even know if she would prefer a D810 over her D7200. It sounds like it's his decision not her preference. Sorry, but we're just going to have to disagree on this one.

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May 1, 2017 15:53:53   #
cameranut Loc: North Carolina
 
What most men do not seem to realize is that women prefer to pick out their own gifts. It's stressful to have to pretend to like something when you don't,
even if the gift were given with the best of intentions. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
One good thing that has come from all these responses is that I don't feel like an alien dropped off here from another planet. I now feel as if I can relate to other humans.
Thank you UHH members for letting me know that my opinions mirror those of so many others.

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May 2, 2017 03:34:03   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
cthahn wrote:
So what. Stupid. We don't stupid articles like this. There are too many as it is.


Back off, Jack Ass.

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May 2, 2017 03:46:43   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
Bill P wrote:
I find it curious that the very people who think what you are proposing is mean and nasty have no reservations to harrasing you with mean and nasty over the top comments and name calling. It's clearly obvious who the school bullies were. Many of you need to look in the mirror.


girl scout...

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May 2, 2017 03:52:23   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
IBM wrote:
They are Verbally harassing the s--- out of him , calling him sadistic ,idiot. Plus others , that's not a opinion that's a verbal attack


....if the shoe fits, wear it...

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May 2, 2017 03:57:48   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
B-n-L wrote:
Several posters on here expressed their opinions in an adult manner. Many resorted to childish behavior. The cowards who hide behind their keyboards and deride others and call them names remind me of lynch mobs and Antifa protesters. Put them in a group and they're Bad A33gs, but by themselves they're Cowards. A sense of humor requires intellect, the ability to take a joke requires good self esteem. Most of the posters in this thread have neither.
I don't know whether the OPs idea is a good joke, that depends on his daughter and their relationship. But the postings on here attacking him are made by a bunch of W.I.M.P.s, who never had any guts until they could hide behind their computer screens.
Several posters on here expressed their opinions i... (show quote)


A VERY incorrect generalization; there are ALL kinds and types of men who choose to post negative comments on here.

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May 2, 2017 04:00:17   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
tdekany wrote:
Nice comeback, but you are telling others what to do. Those other members also have the right to speak their mind don't they?



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May 2, 2017 04:04:30   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
B-n-L wrote:
Awww, did I hurt your feelings Sunshine? Typical response from an emotionally insecure snowflake. Because of your response to my post, I deduce that instead of offering constructive critism, you instead chose to act like a pre-pubescent child, and call the OP names. In that case, perhaps when your Mother is done wiping your nose, she can teach you how to have meaningful discussions with respect shown to both parties. Until then continue hiding behind your keyboard. You have a good day


(As you ALSO, Hide BEHIND Your Keyboard...)


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May 2, 2017 04:09:15   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
irhologram wrote:
RE: "He just didn't get the feedback he expected".

Actually what he asked in the last sentence was how long should the "joke" last. First, he had her thinking he got a new camera (sounds like he thought that would be enviable), then he immediately replaced the one he flung down a cliff with his new camera (sounds like he's now Prince Charming), and his ending question was how long should he make her feel bad for taking his new toy (if she did accept it), before exposing the trick.

As I think further about this, it sounds as if he just wants her to think he's gallant and wonderful. What we've reacted to here is his confession of jealousy, which is what people feel when they are insecure in a relationship...feeling inadequate and needy. That idea would be reinforced by his view of her as lovely. I can see how some would react to this chord, and defend him.

While we can understand it, this behavior isn't healthy unless they both understand why they play their respective roles in these "pranks." He will constantly be manipulating her for her dependence on him and she will constantly be proving herself as independently worthy of his love. If they DO understand their roles, and they might...after all, he IS taking her on a two week shoot in Paradise...then...the object becomes balance.

Does her competition become his humiliation? At what point does his prank become an act of terror? He's asking us for balance and seems to realize he's at the brink of bad. Dad! Manipulating her feelings creates a continuing barrier! If your daughter is gloating in her talent, its your job to teach her grace. But if she's just good, learn grace yourself.
RE: "He just didn't get the feedback he expec... (show quote)


A good description of the OP's overall original scenario. What I wonder is, did he desire, to actually "get rid of"
his Nikon D810 DSLR camera, that he had already, previously purchased, for himself, and that he had been using,
for some unknown amount of time?

He MAY have decided that he did not really like, that particular DSLR, as much as he thought that he would have desired, and preferred to have owned some other camera; perhaps, a Nikon D500?

So, this entire "scheme of his", may have in actuality, been his own way of, not even giving his daughter, merely a nice gift, in itself, but, at the same time, his "unloading", his used, D810 camera, which he had already decided, that he did not want to keep for himself. So that he could go on to purchase some other model camera that he instead prefered.

This may have been a primary motive of his, which led to his decision, to carry out such a scheme.

Also, the "very" name, of the OP's Post, is: "I "AM" BAD."

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May 2, 2017 04:16:35   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
IBM wrote:
And now we are getting somewhere , so that's your underlying problem all along ,bam you said it all in one sentence above , you defently
Need help , you took it upon yourself to base your whole argument on your judgement that he's childish ,selfish ,there for your condemning him , for one thing you don't know any of that , like I said before who made you judge and jury , you should see a shrink there may still be time to get back on track , you just made all that up in your own mind to justify your outlandish conclusion you settled on, you need a lot more info to come to that sad end , your a sad sample of a caring human, you have more issues than any one here , and you can't even end see that .
And now we are getting somewhere , so that's your ... (show quote)


What you are stating of him is incorrect; he is discerning, based upon the facts which the OP has stated in his post,
and he is not passing any final judicial sentence, which is, "Judging." Every man is free to discern that which confronts him. He may comment on it in this forum. You are wrong, IBM.

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May 2, 2017 13:55:18   #
Bill P
 
Poor big rob, he's been lost since he was no longer in a position to steal other kids lunch money.

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May 2, 2017 16:40:52   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
Bill P wrote:
Poor big rob, he's been lost since he was no longer in a position to steal other kids lunch money.


and I take caffeine pills for that, extra edge...LOL
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May 3, 2017 14:27:22   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
tdekany wrote:
Speak for yourself. I am relaxed. However, I will never defend "evil"

You? Feel free to.

I'm sorry, did you say something???

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May 3, 2017 14:30:05   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
ggab wrote:
I'm sorry, did you say something???


Is that all you can say to defend yourself? LOL!

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Sep 13, 2017 21:22:55   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Ooops never mind

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