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Apr 21, 2017 04:48:00   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
I have had this question for some time, and the introduction of the a9 is the trigger that revved up my curiosity. Mirrorless cameras, in most cases, eliminated the need for a penta/porro prism and made flat top cameras (much like rangefinder cameras) and many were able to incorporate a LVF and/or EVF. Even though the body would be slightly larger, why is Sony (and, for that matter, Canikon) keeping that blasted arch design? Would anyone else like to see an (affordable) full frame camera with a flat or stepped too?

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Apr 21, 2017 05:25:34   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
Could be stuffed with electronics?
Kind of like taking a picture with an iPhone, you hear the shutter click and the motor drive that advances a new frame of film. I doubt there is any film in an iPhone.
It could be that people expect a camera to look like a camera.

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Apr 21, 2017 05:29:31   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
Arch design?

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Apr 21, 2017 05:45:14   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
I have a hold at arms length and shoot camera, but I prefer a eye level viewfinder. so that I can brace the camera against my face.

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Apr 21, 2017 05:50:20   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
tradio wrote:
Could be stuffed with electronics?
Kind of like taking a picture with an iPhone, you hear the shutter click and the motor drive that advances a new frame of film. I doubt there is any film in an iPhone.
It could be that people expect a camera to look like a camera.

You mean like a Leica?

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Apr 21, 2017 05:59:28   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Don, the 2nd son wrote:
Arch design?

Like the hump on a DSLR or some bridge cameras. I'd like to see a flat topped full frame mirrorless, like a Leica, Fuji, Voightlander, etc., only, of course a bit larger. Actually, it wouldn't have to be much larger; look how much they fit into a Leica M-10.

Yeah, I know I'm dreaming, but there's a one in a gazillion chance that some Sony engineer will see this and design it as the next new camera. Based on Canikon's response to users, I'm not sure they can read.

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Apr 21, 2017 06:51:21   #
cthahn
 
What is Canikon? Why don't you write Sony and tell them how stupid they are? Spend some time doing some photography instead of writing dumb articles just to see you name in print.

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Apr 21, 2017 07:02:00   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BHC wrote:
I have had this question for some time, and the introduction of the a9 is the trigger that revved up my curiosity. Mirrorless cameras, in most cases, eliminated the need for a penta/porro prism and made flat top cameras (much like rangefinder cameras) and many were able to incorporate a LVF and/or EVF. Even though the body would be slightly larger, why is Sony (and, for that matter, Canikon) keeping that blasted arch design? Would anyone else like to see an (affordable) full frame camera with a flat or stepped too?
I have had this question for some time, and the in... (show quote)


It flips opens to hold M&Ms, Skittles, etc.

Seriously, that's where the viewfinder is. An LCD-only camera would not sell for that price. The could have raised the whole top to make it flat, but they decided not to do that. Compared to the expensive competition, the new Sony is much lighter and about an inch smaller horizontally and vertically, so it's not like it makes the comedy too big.

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Apr 21, 2017 08:32:59   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
BHC wrote:
I have had this question for some time, and the introduction of the a9 is the trigger that revved up my curiosity. Mirrorless cameras, in most cases, eliminated the need for a penta/porro prism and made flat top cameras (much like rangefinder cameras) and many were able to incorporate a LVF and/or EVF. Even though the body would be slightly larger, why is Sony (and, for that matter, Canikon) keeping that blasted arch design? Would anyone else like to see an (affordable) full frame camera with a flat or stepped too?
I have had this question for some time, and the in... (show quote)


Don't forget Olympus. Mine also has that "blasted arch" on top. It is not in my way, and seems rather practical: On top of it is a hot shoe where I can "park" my flash. Right below the hot shoe is the viewfinder so I press the camera against my face and so provide some stability as compared to using the monitor for a viewfinder and holding the camera at arm's length in front of me.
Have you never noticed that the more things change the more they stay the same?
I'll keep the blasted arch, thank you very much!

BTW, mine is not a FF, but I don't think that would make much difference in designing the camera.

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Apr 21, 2017 14:12:19   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
cthahn wrote:
What is Canikon? Why don't you write Sony and tell them how stupid they are? Spend some time doing some photography instead of writing dumb articles just to see you name in print.

Are you insane? Never mind; don't answer that question. It's already obvious! Now back off please!

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Apr 22, 2017 06:05:50   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
BHC wrote:
I have had this question for some time, and the introduction of the a9 is the trigger that revved up my curiosity. Mirrorless cameras, in most cases, eliminated the need for a penta/porro prism and made flat top cameras (much like rangefinder cameras) and many were able to incorporate a LVF and/or EVF. Even though the body would be slightly larger, why is Sony (and, for that matter, Canikon) keeping that blasted arch design? Would anyone else like to see an (affordable) full frame camera with a flat or stepped too?
I have had this question for some time, and the in... (show quote)


Nope, I like the viewfinder exactly where they put it on top. That is one reason the M5 intrigues me as there is finally a viewfinder in a location I prefer. Yes, I have used the cameras with the rangefinder location including a Canon II series rangefinder camera that was a copy externally to the old Leicas.

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Apr 22, 2017 07:56:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Nope, I like the viewfinder exactly where they put it on top.


When I pick up a "flat" camera, I sometimes have to search for the viewfinder. That lump on tops makes the search much easier.

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Apr 22, 2017 10:37:37   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
tradio wrote:
It could be that people expect a camera to look like a camera.


Yup. Nikon started it with the FtN Photomic. The bigger bump on top showed that you were a true professional.

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Apr 22, 2017 11:59:10   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
OddJobber wrote:
Yup. Nikon started it with the FtN Photomic. The bigger bump on top showed that you were a true professional.


I believe there were earlier pentaprisims but Nikon did make it very clear where it was and what to do with it. I still like the looks of them very much and keep a couple here in the house.

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Apr 22, 2017 13:13:22   #
PhotosBySteve
 
Sounds to me like you would like all mirror-less cameras to resemble an I-phone. Get yourself one and be content with your desires. Lol

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