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Apr 15, 2017 08:16:04   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
stansoper wrote:
I may be crazy and off-base, but I don't like motion blur in water photography. Iv'e tried to appreciate the effect, but to me it just doesn't make any sense and I don't appreciate or like the result. Other's may and good for them. But it's not for me. I'm very visual and the effect just doesn't work for me. I realize that most photographers do not share my opinion, but I wonder how many (if any) share my opinion. I look forward to your comments.
I may be crazy and off-base, but I don't like moti... (show quote)


You're right. You are crazy and off-base.

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Apr 15, 2017 08:18:31   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
CO wrote:
I use my neutral density filters to get the smoothed out water effect but to a mild degree. I like the water to retain its character so I use shutters speeds around 1/8 or 1/15 second. This is how I like to photograph flowing water. The exposure time was 1/10 second.


This shot shows why he is crazy and off-base.

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Apr 15, 2017 08:20:23   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
stansoper wrote:
Thanks for the input. You make a good point. If I was a professional photographer, I would have to consider the market and what sells, but I shoot for myself so that's not a factor.


So you never post a picture or show them to someone else?

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Apr 15, 2017 08:22:00   #
lrm Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
I too am not crazy about milky water. A little bit like the photo above is my favorite.

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Apr 15, 2017 08:37:01   #
StanRP Loc: Ontario Canada
 
Kalskag2 wrote:
Some have posted that they have seen so many photos of blurred waterfalls that it has become a gimmick. Can the same thing be said about photos taken with fast shutter speeds that show no movement? When I look at a waterfall, I am attracted by movement of the water. For me, a photo taken with a slow shutter speed therefore better portrays what i see with my eyes. I take photos of waterfalls both ways, but I usually like the ones taken with slow shutter speeds better-they seem to better give me a sense of what I saw and felt when I watched the waterfall. And those I show my photos to seem to like better the slower shutter speed Photos as well. But it's all a matter of personal taste. I say potatoe, you say potato...
Some have posted that they have seen so many photo... (show quote)


Some have posted that they have seen so many photos of blurred waterfalls that it has become a gimmick. Can the same thing be said about photos taken with fast shutter speeds that show no movement?

Not really - photos take with fast shutter speeds are almost non-existant.

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Apr 15, 2017 08:41:08   #
NormanTheGr8 Loc: Racine, Wisconsin
 
stansoper wrote:
Thanks for the input. You make a good point. If I was a professional photographer, I would have to consider the market and what sells, but I shoot for myself so that's not a factor.


Yup Agreed

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Apr 15, 2017 08:46:39   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Here are two images taken at Small Fall Rangeley Maine

1/4 sec
1/4 sec...
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1/80 sec
1/80 sec...
(Download)

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Apr 15, 2017 08:56:12   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
There is a phrase that is ysed sometimes when a chef cooks a meal that is overcomplicated. "over chefed)" My feeling is that the "creamy" water is "over photographed". Water should look like water. A blurry flower would be critized as OOF. My opinion of course.

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Apr 15, 2017 08:58:44   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
stansoper wrote:
I may be crazy and off-base, but I don't like motion blur in water photography. Iv'e tried to appreciate the effect, but to me it just doesn't make any sense and I don't appreciate or like the result. Other's may and good for them. But it's not for me. I'm very visual and the effect just doesn't work for me. I realize that most photographers do not share my opinion, but I wonder how many (if any) share my opinion. I look forward to your comments.
I may be crazy and off-base, but I don't like moti... (show quote)


Freezing the water is as unrealistic.

I saw a study some years ago that concluded 1/13 sec. was the magic exposure time between the two. I usually take at least one shot at 1/13 if light allows. Sometimes I like it best.

Sometimes I like the blur. Sometimes not.

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Apr 15, 2017 09:01:41   #
novnan Loc: bucks county, pa
 
For most photos I agree with you . Without the blur you get more of a sense of the feel and movement of water. I do appreciate the effect in certain shots, if you are going for a certain look, but it is way overdone and I think it makes the rest of us feel like we are doing something wrong if we don't blur. It 's a trend gone crazy:)
stansoper wrote:
I may be crazy and off-base, but I don't like motion blur in water photography. Iv'e tried to appreciate the effect, but to me it just doesn't make any sense and I don't appreciate or like the result. Other's may and good for them. But it's not for me. I'm very visual and the effect just doesn't work for me. I realize that most photographers do not share my opinion, but I wonder how many (if any) share my opinion. I look forward to your comments.
I may be crazy and off-base, but I don't like moti... (show quote)

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Apr 15, 2017 09:05:21   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
mborn wrote:
Here are two images taken at Small Fall Rangeley Maine


I prefer the 1/4 sec here. Next time try one at 1/13 sec.

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Apr 15, 2017 09:05:52   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Despite whether you prefer the crisp or the soft, this is the photographic excellence that I strive for!!! This shot is absolutely magical. . . Crisp, yet soft and I seldom if ever gush. Thanks for sharing.
mrjcall wrote:
I understand there are a variety of opinions on the topic. Posted this in the Long Exposure section a few days ago and had some interesting comments. Thoughts?



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Apr 15, 2017 09:06:21   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
stansoper wrote:
I may be crazy and off-base, but I don't like motion blur in water photography. Iv'e tried to appreciate the effect, but to me it just doesn't make any sense and I don't appreciate or like the result. Other's may and good for them. But it's not for me. I'm very visual and the effect just doesn't work for me. I realize that most photographers do not share my opinion, but I wonder how many (if any) share my opinion. I look forward to your comments.
I may be crazy and off-base, but I don't like moti... (show quote)

It depends on the image to me, I do not mind it, in some cases I really like it and it does add to the dynamic in other pictures, it can take away from it, maybe too it has to do with the mood I'm in while looking at the image, can't really tell, but like I said, I like it both ways, I don't think one is better than the other!

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Apr 15, 2017 09:09:44   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Flowing water that looks like ground fog or like milk distracts because the effect calls attention to itself. This over-blurring of moving water thus violates the general rule of avoiding distractions from the main subject in a photograph.

Yet, as the discussion here shows, some photographers over-blur water for one of two reasons: (1) It pleases their eye. (2) It sells. These motivations for the over-blurring of water others may question until the cows come home, without changing anything.

To each his own.
boberic wrote:
There is a phrase that is ysed sometimes when a chef cooks a meal that is overcomplicated. "over chefed)" My feeling is that the "creamy" water is "over photographed". Water should look like water. A blurry flower would be critized as OOF. My opinion of course.

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Apr 15, 2017 09:13:00   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Jerry, you are always the voice of reason and the purveyor of great information.
jerryc41 wrote:
And some people don't like apple pie. It's the differences that make the world go around. I shoot both types of water - blurry and sharp.



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