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Apr 11, 2017 07:11:13   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
No FFF style fingerpainting here, I simply cranked up the SOOC jpeg to get the result that I was after.


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Apr 11, 2017 10:25:17   #
chaman
 
It seems underexposed and oversaturated to me. Composition and focus seem fine.

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Apr 12, 2017 11:20:25   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
And it's awesome. Yes, it's a bit dense, but then I like dense. And yes, it's heavily saturated, but that's what you wanted, right? The single flower and its leaves are beautifully separated from their neighbors. I do have a question. Have you printed this? I find brilliant reds and fuschias difficult to print. They tend to lose definition and come out a big coloured blob.

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Apr 15, 2017 10:11:35   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
winterrose wrote:
No FFF style fingerpainting here, I simply cranked up the SOOC jpeg to get the result that I was after.


Just curious, Rob,
Are you hoping for a critique of the posted image, or a critique of what it was that you were "after"?

The first is easy.

The second requires an objective statement by you as to what you were "after" as well as a subjective statement by you as to how well you feel you succeeded. Critiquing such a subjective opinion is far more difficult.

In other regards, I hope all is well.

Dave

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Apr 15, 2017 15:37:07   #
chaman
 
As a side note, when someone says, " I was after this and that....." it makes me ask myself. Really? Or are you just overexplaining and rationalizing the shortcomings of the image in order to AVOID an obvious critique? I ask because I see an image like this which is obviously underexposed and oversaturated and think...were you REALLY shooting for this? Or were you trying to raise some interest after seeing how underexposed it was by oversaturating it? Of course a very high degree on honesty would be needed to accept that. Just some food for thought.

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Apr 18, 2017 20:45:07   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
chaman wrote:
As a side note, when someone says, " I was after this and that....." it makes me ask myself. Really? Or are you just overexplaining and rationalizing the shortcomings of the image in order to AVOID an obvious critique? I ask because I see an image like this which is obviously underexposed and oversaturated and think...were you REALLY shooting for this? Or were you trying to raise some interest after seeing how underexposed it was by oversaturating it? Of course a very high degree on honesty would be needed to accept that. Just some food for thought.
As a side note, when someone says, " I was af... (show quote)


If you reread what I wrote I said that this is a SOOC photograph.

I did not take it home and try to make a forgettable, too dark snap, which was under exposed because I failed to take the time, and fingerpainting it in Photoshop in an attempt to making it into something 'arty'.

What you see is how I intended it to appear.

A small but standout flower in that dark background, so I bumped up the camera's Picture Control and Exposure Control settings to produce this jpeg.

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Apr 18, 2017 21:01:33   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
Uuglypher wrote:
Just curious, Rob,
Are you hoping for a critique of the posted image, or a critique of what it was that you were "after"?

The first is easy.

The second requires an objective statement by you as to what you were "after" as well as a subjective statement by you as to how well you feel you succeeded. Critiquing such a subjective opinion is far more difficult.

In other regards, I hope all is well.

Dave


The image turned out pretty well the way I wanted it to, Dave, so what you see is what I was 'after'.

It is not an attempt to produce a realistically rendered photograph of the plant and flower which is easy.

I wished here to produce something with a degree of poster-like 'pop' and by having some knowledge of the necessary settings, I achieved it in-camera without having to muck around with a bunch of Photoshop filters.

Whether you like it or not is, of course personal.

And thank you, all is well.......

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Apr 18, 2017 21:52:50   #
chaman
 
winterrose wrote:
If you reread what I wrote I said that this is a SOOC photograph.

I did not take it home and try to make a forgettable, too dark snap, which was under exposed because I failed to take the time, and fingerpainting it in Photoshop in an attempt to making it into something 'arty'.

What you see is how I intended it to appear.

A small but standout flower in that dark background, so I bumped up the camera's Picture Control and Exposure Control settings to produce this jpeg.


Dont need to re read anything, got it the first time. What I dont get is the image. So, you went for a underexposed image with over saturation to make the flower stand out? You manage the first two, except for making the flower stand out. If thats what you wanted...thats what you got, BUT the flower does not stand out, IMO. I guess I fail to see the point of this exercise.

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Apr 18, 2017 22:20:02   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
chaman wrote:
Dont need to re read anything, got it the first time. What I dont get is the image. So, you went for a underexposed image with over saturation to make the flower stand out? You manage the first two, except for making the flower stand out. If thats what you wanted...thats what you got, BUT the flower does not stand out, IMO. I guess I fail to see the point of this exercise.


The flower is the pink blob in the middle off to the right.......

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Apr 18, 2017 22:44:01   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
winterrose wrote:
The image turned out pretty well the way I wanted it to, Dave, so what you see is what I was 'after'.

It is not an attempt to produce a realistically rendered photograph of the plant and flower which is easy.

I wished here to produce something with a degree of poster-like 'pop' and by having some knowledge of the necessary settings, I achieved it in-camera without having to muck around with a bunch of Photoshop filters.

Whether you like it or not is, of course personal.

And thank you, all is well.......
The image turned out pretty well the way I wanted ... (show quote)


Actually, I was pretty sure that it had turned out "...pretty well the way..." you wanted it to.
So, I looked closer to see what that was, because it wasn't, to my eye, immediately obvious.

my first and strongest reaction to the image was being struck/ almost startled...chromatically...by the strong complementary nature of lotsa rich greens/leaves and a lesser number of blossoms or parts thereof. The rich spectral greens of a variety of values and the strong non-spectral magenta of the floral components was, and still is, the major impact to me. i must, however, note that your use of a shallow depth of field to isolate that twig and its leaves and largest blossom took some time to wend it way through and among the reverberating greens and magentas to reach my personal threshold of conscious perception ("conscious perception"...is that redundant? not necessarily, IMO...but I digress)

Anyway, I was, evidently, not the only one not to be immediately struck by any "popping" of the sharply focused twig, leaves, and blossom from the BG. I note this not as a critique, just a curiosity. Even now, aware of the "DOF isolation" as I am, I still have to look closely to see just where it is....simply because, for me, the strong complementary nature of the image's two significant hues is the overwhelming impact that very successfully distracts from the desired "popping" effect.

It does illustrate, I think, the occasional phenomenon of a photographer planning on and, to his eye, acheiving a particular impactful effect that may, to a viewer unfamiliar with the photographer's visualization and intent , be missed, or at least perceived at a far lower level of impact.

Dave

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Apr 21, 2017 12:02:07   #
Nightski
 
Red channel is blown, background is distracting.

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Apr 21, 2017 21:15:32   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
Nightski wrote:
Red channel is blown, background is distracting.


Red channel was fully saturated in an attempt to make the flower stand out which apparently was not 100% successful.
As for the distracting background, here's a version which (hopefully) will satisfy both your kind self and chaman equally.....



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Apr 21, 2017 22:56:48   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
Uuglypher wrote:
Actually, I was pretty sure that it had turned out "...pretty well the way..." you wanted it to.
So, I looked closer to see what that was, because it wasn't, to my eye, immediately obvious.

my first and strongest reaction to the image was being struck/ almost startled...chromatically...by the strong complementary nature of lotsa rich greens/leaves and a lesser number of blossoms or parts thereof. The rich spectral greens of a variety of values and the strong non-spectral magenta of the floral components was, and still is, the major impact to me. i must, however, note that your use of a shallow depth of field to isolate that twig and its leaves and largest blossom took some time to wend it way through and among the reverberating greens and magentas to reach my personal threshold of conscious perception ("conscious perception"...is that redundant? not necessarily, IMO...but I digress)

Anyway, I was, evidently, not the only one not to be immediately struck by any "popping" of the sharply focused twig, leaves, and blossom from the BG. I note this not as a critique, just a curiosity. Even now, aware of the "DOF isolation" as I am, I still have to look closely to see just where it is....simply because, for me, the strong complementary nature of the image's two significant hues is the overwhelming impact that very successfully distracts from the desired "popping" effect.

It does illustrate, I think, the occasional phenomenon of a photographer planning on and, to his eye, acheiving a particular impactful effect that may, to a viewer unfamiliar with the photographer's visualization and intent , be missed, or at least perceived at a far lower level of impact.

Dave
Actually, I was pretty sure that it had turned out... (show quote)


Thanks Dave, it appears that the image drew your attention for more than the two seconds, which, in my case, if exceeded, denotes the possibility that there might be some merit to what is presented.

May I therefore conclude that you are of a similar opinion?

Cheers, Rob.

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