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Apr 7, 2017 11:36:21   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
Keenan wrote:
3 points:

1) Reliable/accurate is not the same thing as unbiased. Biased is not the same thing as false/unreliable.

2) There is no such thing as unbiased. Everyone has a set of values/world view that determines the person's particular bias. Although 'extremely biased' usually correlates with low reliability/accuracy, it is not possible to be completely free of bias. We are not all going to agree on what is or is not biased, nor on the definition of bias. What some people might perceive as unbiased, another group of people will see the same source/perspective as very biased.

3) I think it is more useful to talk about journalistic standards. Does the source have a track record of accuracy/reliability? Do they use good proper standards of verification/fact checking? Do they engage in poor journalistic practices, such as publishing rumors/conspiracy theories as fact? Do they correct mistakes and publish apologies and retractions/corrections after mistakes in their reporting are discovered?

Facts are neither liberal nor conservative nor libertarian nor wh**ever, despite what some feel. Conservatives tend to be much more willing to distort/deny objective facts that contradict their feelings/narrative than most other groups I've seen.
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Accurate except that stupid statement about Conservatives. It's the Libs that distort and outright lie and ignore facts that don't fit THEIR narrative!

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Apr 7, 2017 11:51:16   #
Sjfh
 
Bazbo wrote:
BBC
NPR
PBS
The Economist
Forbes
Washington Post
NY Times
Pro Publica
PolitiFact


Cross off WP and NYT and I'm ok with these.

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Apr 7, 2017 12:00:41   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
ken hubert wrote:
Spazbo's list is pretty left wing!


So what's your list lil' kennie?

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Apr 7, 2017 12:05:07   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
So many times someone posts a link to a site and the rebuttal is oh that's a .(enter political leaning word) biased site.

I'm curious which sites you feel are reliable/accurate, and should I hope, unbiased for political reporting.

I ask that you not reply as to your feeling about others posts.

I'm just curious.


Sites that have a hard copy, such as a magazine or newspaper have an obligation to get their facts rights.

Online Blogs are just you and I or our neighbors posting anything we want and we answer to no man. Those are the wacko sites, no matter how pretty they look!
These blogs can also be writers from a newspaper or were with a newspaper and can show affiliation to a major publication but the blog may not be actually officially connected to that publication or may not show official logos from that publication, again who knows.
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Apr 7, 2017 12:06:43   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
So many times someone posts a link to a site and the rebuttal is oh that's a .(enter political leaning word) biased site.

I'm curious which sites you feel are reliable/accurate, and should I hope, unbiased for political reporting.

I ask that you not reply as to your feeling about others posts.

I'm just curious.

What do you think of the Christian Science Monitor? To me they seem pretty level and they appear to pretty much represent some of both sides of the spectrum.

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Apr 7, 2017 12:20:16   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
Bazbo wrote:
So what's your list lil' kennie?


Everything that isn't far left or far right and then make up my own mind.

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Apr 7, 2017 12:24:33   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
ken hubert wrote:
Everything that isn't far left or far right and then make up my own mind.


So give us some examples. Don't just sit back and take cheap shots at others.

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Apr 7, 2017 12:25:12   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Sjfh wrote:
Cross off WP and NYT and I'm ok with these.


NYT and WaPo have the most extensive investigating staffs of them all. Because the facts they expose don't agree with what you'd wish were true doesn't make them wrong, it makes them candidates for more awards in investigative journalism, spikes the # of homes they're read in and allows the ppl to become familiar with exactly what's going on. I love both of those outlets.

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Apr 7, 2017 12:29:36   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
Bazbo wrote:
So give us some examples. Don't just sit back and take cheap shots at others.


LA Times
WaPo
Chicago Tribune
USNI
RT
ST. Louis Post Dispatch
BBC

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Apr 7, 2017 12:32:01   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
ken hubert wrote:
LA Times
WaPo
Chicago Tribune
USNI
RT
ST. Louis Post Dispatch
BBC


So there is some overlap, which is good to know.

You know that RT is pure Russian state propaganda, right?

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Apr 7, 2017 12:36:53   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
Bazbo wrote:
So there is some overlap, which is good to know.

You know that RT is pure Russian state propaganda, right?


Most of it is but they post things that are going on that American outlets cover up.

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Apr 7, 2017 13:10:03   #
Sjfh
 
dljen wrote:
NYT and WaPo have the most extensive investigating staffs of them all. Because the facts they expose don't agree with what you'd wish were true doesn't make them wrong, it makes them candidates for more awards in investigative journalism, spikes the # of homes they're read in and allows the ppl to become familiar with exactly what's going on. I love both of those outlets.


I live in DC. I've been physically present at some of the events they've reported. They spin like there is no tomorrow. And the media (pics) they choose to go with their stories....cropped or photoshopped to support what they report. Tho I don't live in NYC.....I've traveled there and witnessed the same first hand.

One example: One day I was downtown near the White House and the reporters outnumbered the "protesters" (can't recall exactly what for). Took a minute to figure out what they were even doing....when I remembered reading something about the event. The evening paper reported "thousands" in town for the event. Seriously, there couldn't have been more than ten (10)....with perhaps a dozen reporters. It looked more like they were filming a movie or television show.

Nope. No credibility there.

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Apr 7, 2017 13:14:31   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Sjfh wrote:
I live in DC. I've been physically present at some of the events they've reported. They spin like there is no tomorrow. And the media (pics) they choose to go with their stories....cropped or photoshopped to support what they report. Tho I don't live in NYC.....I've traveled there and witnessed the same first hand.

One example: One day I was downtown near the White House and the reporters outnumbered the "protesters" (can't recall exactly what for). Took a minute to figure out what they were even doing....when I remembered reading something about the event. The evening paper reported "thousands" in town for the event. Seriously, there couldn't have been more than ten (10)....with perhaps a dozen reporters. It looked more like they were filming a movie or television show.

Nope. No credibility there.
I live in DC. I've been physically present at some... (show quote)


I totally disagree.

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Apr 7, 2017 13:15:18   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Too many of the media outlets sensationalize their reporting in order to boost ratings or circulation.

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Apr 7, 2017 13:17:59   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
dljen wrote:
I totally disagree.


Of course you do. Reality sucks doesn't it.

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