D 750 noise??
Apr 4, 2017 07:20:19 #
I have a D 750 for about 2 years and always shoot with a fixed low ISO 640 max. I recently read an article about someone's good results with the 750 and auto ISO no noise at up to 1600 and higher. I experimented with auto ISO at indoor basketball and outdoor birding and landscapes and had very poor results is it user error or is it time to send the camera to Nikon for a general once over. Thanks again for your wisdom and guidance
Joe
Joe
Apr 4, 2017 07:25:25 #
Papa j wrote:
I have a D 750 for about 2 years and always shoot with a fixed low ISO 640 max. I recently read an article about someone's good results with the 750 and auto ISO no noise at up to 1600 and higher. I experimented with auto ISO at indoor basketball and outdoor birding and landscapes and had very poor results is it user error or is it time to send the camera to Nikon for a general once over. Thanks again for your wisdom and guidance
Joe
Joe
Higher ISO will produce more noise. It doesn't matter if it's chosen automatically or manually. Maybe setting a very high ISO and then adjusting shutter and aperture to get a decent exposure will result in higher ISO, but that's just a guess. I look forward to more answers.
Apr 4, 2017 07:49:15 #
Papa j wrote:
I have a D 750 for about 2 years and always shoot with a fixed low ISO 640 max. I recently read an article about someone's good results with the 750 and auto ISO no noise at up to 1600 and higher. I experimented with auto ISO at indoor basketball and outdoor birding and landscapes and had very poor results is it user error or is it time to send the camera to Nikon for a general once over. Thanks again for your wisdom and guidance
Joe
Joe
Sounds like mostly user error to me. I have achieved outstanding results at ISO 2000 and higher. Alternatively, you have adjusted to 640 and that is your frame of reference.
Apr 4, 2017 07:53:48 #
Papa j wrote:
I have a D 750 for about 2 years and always shoot with a fixed low ISO 640 max. I recently read an article about someone's good results with the 750 and auto ISO no noise at up to 1600 and higher. I experimented with auto ISO at indoor basketball and outdoor birding and landscapes and had very poor results is it user error or is it time to send the camera to Nikon for a general once over. Thanks again for your wisdom and guidance
Joe
Joe
Joe,
I shot this with my D7200 at 1/640, ISO 5000, f3.5. Available light. I think the noise is acceptable. How does it compare to your shots? Are you being too critical of your shots?
Ken S.
Apr 4, 2017 08:22:20 #
Hi Papa J,
I think you need to evaluate your standards of what's accepted noise in your photos. Or maybe you could post some examples in order to better understand. I would love to see what your noise level looks like.
What I can say is the D750 does a very good job at high ISO. I am very pleased with my D750, and I upgraded especially to get better results when using high ISO. I must say that I have become aware of the fact that using high ISO and then zoom inn 100% on a face, that will show lot's of noise. But again , I was not shooting to get the face in perfect quality, I was shooting the scene, and that looks totally different and you barely see the noise. Should I look for the face photo, then I would got closer and surely would managed to get way better quality with the same ISO setting.
I shoot a lot of photos indoor, ice hockey, soccer for kids, some DJ parties, and I shoot with high ISO. The results are very good for my standards.
Noise it will be visible the higher you go, but far better than what I could get out of my D7100. Depending on the type of photo you take some noise means nothing. Check out my posts where I've attached pictures with all exif data. You will see I use quite high ISO on many pictures. I never use Auto ISO. After long time now learning manual mode, it's seems I rarely use other modes. Also I've turned off features like noise reduction for example. I'll do that myself.
My most recent pictures are from kids soccer indoor from two weeks ago, (have not posted them here yet bu I will). This time I've managed to get pretty darn good pictures, and I used ISO 1250-4000.
One thing I have to mentioned is that I do post process all my photos since I shoot raw, and noise reduction is often applied to my photos.
Here are some links to my posts from here where you can study some of my photos as referance.
ISO 1250 cloudy day (some dogs) : http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-437428-1.html
ISO 4000 indoor (lego figures) http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-434275-1.html
ISO 1000 indoor (ice hockey) http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-428662-1.html
ISO 1600 outdoor (my kids and dog) http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-420308-1.html
Of course , if this level of noise is far from what you would accept, than I fear you may have too look to upgrade to the bigger boys, D810 , D4.
Cheers
C.
I think you need to evaluate your standards of what's accepted noise in your photos. Or maybe you could post some examples in order to better understand. I would love to see what your noise level looks like.
What I can say is the D750 does a very good job at high ISO. I am very pleased with my D750, and I upgraded especially to get better results when using high ISO. I must say that I have become aware of the fact that using high ISO and then zoom inn 100% on a face, that will show lot's of noise. But again , I was not shooting to get the face in perfect quality, I was shooting the scene, and that looks totally different and you barely see the noise. Should I look for the face photo, then I would got closer and surely would managed to get way better quality with the same ISO setting.
I shoot a lot of photos indoor, ice hockey, soccer for kids, some DJ parties, and I shoot with high ISO. The results are very good for my standards.
Noise it will be visible the higher you go, but far better than what I could get out of my D7100. Depending on the type of photo you take some noise means nothing. Check out my posts where I've attached pictures with all exif data. You will see I use quite high ISO on many pictures. I never use Auto ISO. After long time now learning manual mode, it's seems I rarely use other modes. Also I've turned off features like noise reduction for example. I'll do that myself.
My most recent pictures are from kids soccer indoor from two weeks ago, (have not posted them here yet bu I will). This time I've managed to get pretty darn good pictures, and I used ISO 1250-4000.
One thing I have to mentioned is that I do post process all my photos since I shoot raw, and noise reduction is often applied to my photos.
Here are some links to my posts from here where you can study some of my photos as referance.
ISO 1250 cloudy day (some dogs) : http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-437428-1.html
ISO 4000 indoor (lego figures) http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-434275-1.html
ISO 1000 indoor (ice hockey) http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-428662-1.html
ISO 1600 outdoor (my kids and dog) http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-420308-1.html
Of course , if this level of noise is far from what you would accept, than I fear you may have too look to upgrade to the bigger boys, D810 , D4.
Cheers
C.
Apr 4, 2017 08:29:17 #
kschwegl wrote:
...I shot this with my D7200 at 1/640, ISO 5000, f3.5. Available light. I think the noise is acceptable.....
The noise level is very high in that shot.
The part of the image you are interested in is lit well enough that you don't see the noise.
Apr 4, 2017 08:57:53 #
Papa j wrote:
I have a D 750 for about 2 years and always shoot with a fixed low ISO 640 max. I recently read an article about someone's good results with the 750 and auto ISO no noise at up to 1600 and higher. I experimented with auto ISO at indoor basketball and outdoor birding and landscapes and had very poor results is it user error or is it time to send the camera to Nikon for a general once over. Thanks again for your wisdom and guidance
Joe
Joe
Certainly indoor sports, with even and constant lighting that is ideal for totally manual exposure, would not be good place to test Auto ISO. Landscapes or birds may or may not be. Only if the lighting is changing while you are shooting is Auto ISO a good choice.
An upper limit of ISO 640 is extremely low unless you are typically stretching gamma with the curves tool in post processing. If that is not happening you want to compare the camera's Dynamic Range at a given ISO to the range of a print (about 6 fstops at most) or a computer monitor (maybe 7 fstops). A range of 6.5 fstops is typically used as a general purpose standard. If you nail the exposure there will be virtually no noise if the ISO produces 6.5 or more fstops with your camera. If the ISO used produces a higher Dynamic Range you get that much leeway in exposure. Hence if the Dynamic Range is 10 fstops you can miss the exposure by 3.5 fstops and still increase the brightness in post processing and not see noise.
For the D750 see http://photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#D750
The D750 at ISO 100 has Dynamic Range of 11.8 fstops. At ISO 640 it gets about 9.4 fstops and at ISO 5000 gets 6.5. If you nail exposure it is possible to have an essentially noise free image shooting at ISO 5000. At ISO 640 you have the distinct advantage of 3 fstops exposure latitude!
Apr 4, 2017 18:20:36 #
Maybe you are too picky. I use auto ISO with a limit of 6400 on my D750 all the time & have never had a problem with excessive noise. I have numerous cameras, & find that the D750 is a stand out when it comes to low light/high(er) ISO shots. With a limit of 6400, any small amount of noise that might occasionally be seen is easily cleaned up in PP. Earl.
Apr 4, 2017 20:38:22 #
Thank you all for your response I will post several images tomorrow at high ISO
Joe
Joe
Apr 5, 2017 09:43:33 #
I don't have the D750, but I do have the D810 and I don't like to shoot above ISO 800 for print. For web and social media I will shoot up to ISO 3200. I also have a Sony a6000 and will shoot up to 3200 for print (go figure). That is what I think is acceptable, other people will have other opinions on what they see as acceptable for their use.
Apr 5, 2017 09:57:37 #
That noise is NOT a problem. Use Nik Dfine 2 and it will disappear. You'll be trying ISO 1600 next.
Apr 5, 2017 10:47:43 #
So many people here bragging about how little noise their super cameras have at ISO of 6000 and up .
You have to chuckle though when they also brag about the image blurring noise filters
they have to pass their pictures through before you can view them.
You have to chuckle though when they also brag about the image blurring noise filters
they have to pass their pictures through before you can view them.
Apr 5, 2017 11:03:03 #
oldtigger wrote:
So many people here bragging about how little noise their super cameras have at ISO of 6000 and up .
You have to chuckle though when they also brag about the image blurring noise filters
they have to pass their pictures through before you can view them.
You have to chuckle though when they also brag about the image blurring noise filters
they have to pass their pictures through before you can view them.
True. I've always assumed the braggers were using noise reduction and optimizing in post.
Apr 5, 2017 13:03:52 #
no hart feelings here,
but I don't feel I bragged in my answer.
I think I've been clear enough about the subject Noise and how I deal with it. As I also learned , from UHH, Noise is a sensible subject but can be difficult to handle but also to understand. But with the correct gear, combined with knowledge and personal style one can achieve that level of quality even with noise. In the beginning I was one of those who could not stand any noise at all on photos I was seeing.
Until I started to take my own pictures. And understand whats happening , and why. And been on UHH and read , and asked. and researched. And then I changed my attitude towards noise. I learned to deal with it, but I've also found my level of acceptance, and also found ways to make it work. In order to get there, the gear was also necessary. And it was not for bragging I've bought my D750.
And I think my answer was nothing about bragging, and as most objective as I could be.
I only commented this because I feel I belong to the not skilled ones :) but eager to learn, and after much learning, I want to give helping answers when I can. I get a little discouraged when reading comments like that,.
So I just want to raise my cold beer and say Cheers guys.
:)
but I don't feel I bragged in my answer.
I think I've been clear enough about the subject Noise and how I deal with it. As I also learned , from UHH, Noise is a sensible subject but can be difficult to handle but also to understand. But with the correct gear, combined with knowledge and personal style one can achieve that level of quality even with noise. In the beginning I was one of those who could not stand any noise at all on photos I was seeing.
Until I started to take my own pictures. And understand whats happening , and why. And been on UHH and read , and asked. and researched. And then I changed my attitude towards noise. I learned to deal with it, but I've also found my level of acceptance, and also found ways to make it work. In order to get there, the gear was also necessary. And it was not for bragging I've bought my D750.
And I think my answer was nothing about bragging, and as most objective as I could be.
I only commented this because I feel I belong to the not skilled ones :) but eager to learn, and after much learning, I want to give helping answers when I can. I get a little discouraged when reading comments like that,.
So I just want to raise my cold beer and say Cheers guys.
:)
Apr 5, 2017 13:03:52 #
no hart feelings here,
but I don't feel I bragged in my answer.
I think I've been clear enough about the subject Noise and how I deal with it. As I also learned , from UHH, Noise is a sensible subject but can be difficult to handle but also to understand. But with the correct gear, combined with knowledge and personal style one can achieve that level of quality even with noise. In the beginning I was one of those who could not stand any noise at all on photos I was seeing.
Until I started to take my own pictures. And understand whats happening , and why. And been on UHH and read , and asked. and researched. And then I changed my attitude towards noise. I learned to deal with it, but I've also found my level of acceptance, and also found ways to make it work. In order to get there, the gear was also necessary. And it was not for bragging I've bought my D750.
And I think my answer was nothing about bragging, and as most objective as I could be.
I only commented this because I feel I belong to the not skilled ones :) but eager to learn, and after much learning, I want to give helping answers when I can. I get a little discouraged when reading comments like that,.
So I just want to raise my cold beer and say Cheers guys.
:)
but I don't feel I bragged in my answer.
I think I've been clear enough about the subject Noise and how I deal with it. As I also learned , from UHH, Noise is a sensible subject but can be difficult to handle but also to understand. But with the correct gear, combined with knowledge and personal style one can achieve that level of quality even with noise. In the beginning I was one of those who could not stand any noise at all on photos I was seeing.
Until I started to take my own pictures. And understand whats happening , and why. And been on UHH and read , and asked. and researched. And then I changed my attitude towards noise. I learned to deal with it, but I've also found my level of acceptance, and also found ways to make it work. In order to get there, the gear was also necessary. And it was not for bragging I've bought my D750.
And I think my answer was nothing about bragging, and as most objective as I could be.
I only commented this because I feel I belong to the not skilled ones :) but eager to learn, and after much learning, I want to give helping answers when I can. I get a little discouraged when reading comments like that,.
So I just want to raise my cold beer and say Cheers guys.
:)
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