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Apr 4, 2017 11:05:08   #
Bushpilot Loc: Minnesota
 
An interesting concept, I really like it!

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Apr 4, 2017 11:24:54   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
Bushpilot wrote:
An interesting concept, I really like it!


Glad you like it Bushpilot, and thanks for looking-in.

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Apr 4, 2017 12:47:21   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I kind of read the other comments from last to first, so I didn't see the sculpture's title until after I'd gone through the rest - how fascinating to learn it is "Strength," so different from your portrayal and what others (myself included) got from your vision.

#2 is very powerful, and I'm impressed with your ability to produce convincing shadows of the bars! I would resist adding other elements, such as pill bottles, because I think the bars, the light, and the figure's pose impart a strong message already, while allowing the viewer to fill in the details based on our own experiences or imagination.

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Apr 4, 2017 13:03:49   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I kind of read the other comments from last to first, so I didn't see the sculpture's title until after I'd gone through the rest - how fascinating to learn it is "Strength," so different from your portrayal and what others (myself included) got from your vision.

#2 is very powerful, and I'm impressed with your ability to produce convincing shadows of the bars! I would resist adding other elements, such as pill bottles, because I think the bars, the light, and the figure's pose impart a strong message already, while allowing the viewer to fill in the details based on our own experiences or imagination.
I kind of read the other comments from last to fir... (show quote)


Yes, I found the title strange for the pose as well Linda. Lovely work though - yours for £3500, which may seem cheap to you as our pound suffers from Brexit? I do get Dave's idea with the pills but prefer as is. More space for the viewers imagination, as you suggest. Good to hear from you.

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Apr 4, 2017 17:26:39   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
magnetoman wrote:
I've mentioned this image to Minnie in response to a post. Totally dissimilar subject but converted using a similar Lightroom process.
The shot was taken in bright daylight with this result in mind - and having got to this point a concept composite came to mind and the second image is a trial of that. I don't seem to have the ideal grill on file but will find one somewhere I'm sure. The composite doesn't stand too close a scrutiny, but serves its purpose. What are your thoughts on these two?

The sculpture is by Brendon Murless and is titled Strength.
I've mentioned this image to Minnie in response to... (show quote)


Powerful composite, and I think you achieved what you wanted. The capture of the sculpture is very good, with all that grain and shadow and form, with it's suggestion of coiled and restrained strength. Then you shut the door and REALLY restrain him! Great conceptualization. As far as the presentation, I think some retrieval of the brights in the gates and lock before compositing would help the piece come together. Shiny surfaces are so hard to photograph. If your original has the detail you could probably overlay it and mask the detail in. Excellent manufacture of those shadows! Intriguing artwork, your creativity is inspiring.

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Apr 4, 2017 18:30:00   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
minniev wrote:
Powerful composite, and I think you achieved what you wanted. The capture of the sculpture is very good, with all that grain and shadow and form, with it's suggestion of coiled and restrained strength. Then you shut the door and REALLY restrain him! Great conceptualization. As far as the presentation, I think some retrieval of the brights in the gates and lock before compositing would help the piece come together. Shiny surfaces are so hard to photograph. If your original has the detail you could probably overlay it and mask the detail in. Excellent manufacture of those shadows! Intriguing artwork, your creativity is inspiring.
Powerful composite, and I think you achieved what ... (show quote)


Thanks for your comments Min. The gates are a poor shot. To make a decent image I will have to find something similar and shoot it specifically for this composite - too far to go back and redo this one and I'm not keen on 'stock' from others.
I had another attempt this evening at creating the shadows more technically, using warp within free transform, but that didn't work so I reverted to my original thought of puppet warp. That works but the end result wasn't as pleasing as the freehand of yesterday! Shadows on curves are not the easiest thing get right, that's for sure.

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Apr 5, 2017 11:33:04   #
pfrancke Loc: cold Maine
 
awesome work! Pent up power for sure. For me, caging is the story. The strength is there to burst through the small bars and tiny chains and lock, but the golem chooses to crouch in the shadows. Be wary of what you cage in, the release can be frightening.

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Apr 6, 2017 15:39:22   #
cabunit Loc: SE Connecticut
 
Not usually a composite guy, but I find these very forceful and beautifully done. I think the first stands on its own for its strength and complex texture. The second is more of a statement, and is perceived differently, but is also worthwhile.

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Apr 6, 2017 19:38:28   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
magnetoman wrote:
I've mentioned this image to Minnie in response to a post. Totally dissimilar subject but converted using a similar Lightroom process.
The shot was taken in bright daylight with this result in mind - and having got to this point a concept composite came to mind and the second image is a trial of that. I don't seem to have the ideal grill on file but will find one somewhere I'm sure. The composite doesn't stand too close a scrutiny, but serves its purpose. What are your thoughts on these two?

The sculpture is by Brendon Murless and is titled Strength.
I've mentioned this image to Minnie in response to... (show quote)


Photo 1: I think that the image is very powerful as presented here. The shadows and that wonderful contrast give us pause to think about the turmoil raging in this tormented soul. There is a simplicity to the composition that belies the complex emotional strength of this sculpture and your interpretation of it. It is a very good photo that takes the artwork of another and presents in a a manner that sheds insight into your own thought process. When you do this using another artist's work, you are adding your vision to the original sculpture. Very effective.

Photo2: This has a completely different feel for me. By adding the bars, you take away the idea of individual and very personal turmoil. This becomes a man suffering the restraints placed upon him by others. One interpretation would be the agony that comes from incarceration. Another interpretation would be the feeling of being trapped our shackled by circumstances of our own doing. Perhaps he is in an unhappy relationship and can't envision a way out. Perhaps he is in a job that is sapping the life out of him. Dave suggested the idea of addiction and the despair that can come from that. This idea works for me as well.

Each photo has its own personality and both are well done, well executed and extremely well thought out. These are both magnificent. I congratulate you.
Erich

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Apr 7, 2017 10:00:10   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
pfrancke wrote:
awesome work! Pent up power for sure. For me, caging is the story. The strength is there to burst through the small bars and tiny chains and lock, but the golem chooses to crouch in the shadows. Be wary of what you cage in, the release can be frightening.


Thanks for commenting Piet and the education. I now know what a golem is, in both historic Jewish terms and Pokemon-talk! I'm going with the Jewish version for my picture.

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Apr 7, 2017 10:00:56   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
cabunit wrote:
Not usually a composite guy, but I find these very forceful and beautifully done. I think the first stands on its own for its strength and complex texture. The second is more of a statement, and is perceived differently, but is also worthwhile.


Thanks cabunit, glad you called-in.

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Apr 7, 2017 10:05:02   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
ebrunner wrote:
Photo 1: I think that the image is very powerful as presented here. The shadows and that wonderful contrast give us pause to think about the turmoil raging in this tormented soul. There is a simplicity to the composition that belies the complex emotional strength of this sculpture and your interpretation of it. It is a very good photo that takes the artwork of another and presents in a a manner that sheds insight into your own thought process. When you do this using another artist's work, you are adding your vision to the original sculpture. Very effective.

Photo2: This has a completely different feel for me. By adding the bars, you take away the idea of individual and very personal turmoil. This becomes a man suffering the restraints placed upon him by others. One interpretation would be the agony that comes from incarceration. Another interpretation would be the feeling of being trapped our shackled by circumstances of our own doing. Perhaps he is in an unhappy relationship and can't envision a way out. Perhaps he is in a job that is sapping the life out of him. Dave suggested the idea of addiction and the despair that can come from that. This idea works for me as well.

Each photo has its own personality and both are well done, well executed and extremely well thought out. These are both magnificent. I congratulate you.
Erich
Photo 1: I think that the image is very powerful a... (show quote)


Many thanks for your interesting interpretations Erich, and you're right, that's just what I wanted viewers to do, see it in their own way

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