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Apr 3, 2017 15:57:04   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
If you own a D800 how do you like it?

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Apr 3, 2017 16:01:04   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Loved it...until got the quieter, sharper D810.
Still, the D800 is a great camera.

Not cut out for sports.
Huge raw file size.

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Apr 3, 2017 16:24:50   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I have an 800e. I Love mine. Used for a variety of photographs. Don't know anything photographically that it can't do.
--Bob

RickL wrote:
If you own a D800 how do you like it?

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Apr 3, 2017 16:37:18   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
RickL wrote:
If you own a D800 how do you like it?


I have had the D800 since it first became available. I love the camera and it is good for just about any subject. The one thing is does not do as well as some other cameras is multiple fast shots as the buffer is very small. So, if you are shooting fast the buffer fills up and you cannot shoot until the buffer empties to give you space. You can use the fastest card available and this does help. I have the D500 which is a great wildlife camera with a buffer that holds about 99 images, so it virtually never fills up. But I do shoot wildlife, even birds in flight, with the D800. I've included a couple of recent shots of wildflowers taken inside, it's really wonderful for this type of shooting and for landscapes or any fairly still subject. I've never had an issue with the large file, which will allow you to crop a bit if you need to.





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Apr 3, 2017 16:49:07   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
RickL wrote:
If you own a D800 how do you like it?


I got one of the first D800E's, LOVED IT!
6 months later got a D800E for a backup, nowhere near the level of image quality the D800E was so I sold it off.
Bought a D810 for the upgrade, and it could not match the D800E either, but I still have it for a backup body.

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Apr 3, 2017 16:57:00   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I got one of the first D800E's, LOVED IT!
6 months later got a D800E for a backup, nowhere near the level of image quality the D800E was so I sold it off.
Bought a D810 for the upgrade, and it could not match the D800E either, but I still have it for a backup body.

Assume you mean "6 months later got a D810"?
I have been wondering about the difference between the 800E and D810.
Just o be sure, are you saying the D800E has better IQ than the D810?

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Apr 3, 2017 16:57:19   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
Thanks everyone for your input, I currently use a d7000, but want a full gram camera

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Apr 3, 2017 17:00:53   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
RickL wrote:
Thanks everyone for your input, I currently use a d7000, but want a full gram camera


a lot more grams with the D8xx!
I still have the D7000, but rarely use it.
A few years ago, I did a test between that and the nearly classic D700.
The D700 was still better.

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Apr 3, 2017 17:03:51   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Assume you mean "6 months later got a D810"?
I have been wondering about the difference between the 800E and D810.
Just o be sure, are you saying the D800E has better IQ than the D810?


No, 6 months after the D800E I got a D800. Two years after that is when the D810 came out and I got one of them.
Yes, the D800E does give noticeably sharper images than the D810. Both are considerably better than the D800.

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Apr 3, 2017 17:12:13   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
MT Shooter wrote:
No, 6 months after the D800E I got a D800. Two years after that is when the D810 came out and I got one of them.
Yes, the D800E does give noticeably sharper images than the D810. Both are considerably better than the D800.

Thanks for the clarification.
Good to know.
All capable cameras.
They just need a good driver!
Thanks

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Apr 3, 2017 17:50:34   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Thanks for the clarification.
Good to know.
All capable cameras.
They just need a good driver!
Thanks

The driver is in fact the difference. If properly processed there is zero difference between images from a D800 and a D800E, assuming there is no moire to degrade the D800E image. Otherwise if the D800 image is not as good it is lack of skill because it might require more skill to get the same results (but it can easily be done).

The D810 doesn't necessarily take higher quality images, it just has more bells and whistles to make using it easier and perhaps either more fun or productive.

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Apr 3, 2017 17:55:57   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Apaflo wrote:
The driver is in fact the difference. If properly processed there is zero difference between images from a D800 and a D800E, assuming there is no moire to degrade the D800E image. Otherwise if the D800 image is not as good it is lack of skill because it might require more skill to get the same results (but it can easily be done).

The D810 doesn't necessarily take higher quality images, it just has more bells and whistles to make using it easier and perhaps either more fun or productive.
The driver is in fact the difference. If properly... (show quote)


The bells and whistles ( and shutter/mirror sound) are quieter!

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Apr 3, 2017 18:27:26   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
On the contrary, the images from an 800E are slightly sharper.
"The D800E is able to produce images with slightly higher sharpness and resolution." - https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/hands-review/discerning-differences-between-nikon-d800-and-d800e author Bjorn Petersen
--Bob

Apaflo wrote:
The driver is in fact the difference. If properly processed there is zero difference between images from a D800 and a D800E, assuming there is no moire to degrade the D800E image. Otherwise if the D800 image is not as good it is lack of skill because it might require more skill to get the same results (but it can easily be done).

The D810 doesn't necessarily take higher quality images, it just has more bells and whistles to make using it easier and perhaps either more fun or productive.
The driver is in fact the difference. If properly... (show quote)

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Apr 3, 2017 19:06:00   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
I have an 800E. It is a better camera than I am a photographer.

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Apr 3, 2017 19:16:40   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
The bells and whistles ( and shutter/mirror sound) are quieter!

The D810 is a significant advance over the D800 in many ways. I'm not into video and won't attempt to report the differences in that area because they just don't mean much to me. For a still photographer there are many many changes, and I'll list ones that I found significant. In no particular order:

The D810 has the Expeed 4 processor, with 30% more power than the older Expeed 3 in the D800. That results in faster AF, faster file writes, faster continuous mode shooting, better noise reduction algorithms being used at higher ISO's, and faster image processing.

The D810 has twice the buffer memory, and can shoot continuously for 12 seconds, and continuous shooting is now unlimited for the number of shots. The viewfinder is brighter. It has improved scene recognition for matrix metering and adds highlight metering. It has Group AF. It has an electronic front curtain shutter. The picture controls have finer adjustments and now have a Clarity slider.

The timelapse and interval timer maximum count is 9,999 instead of 999. The battery life is 1/3 longer. The native ISO range is 64-12,600 instead of 100-6400.

Note that the D810 is easier to process images for maximum high frequency spatial detail, just like the D800E, as long as there is no moire. However it apparently has higher thermal noise at the same ambient temperatures for long exposures in excess of 20 seconds.

These are the details that make a difference in which camera is a better value for a serious photographer.

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