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Canon EF-S 10-22mm 1:3.5-4.5 USM Zoom Lens won't mount on a Canon EOS film Camera
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Mar 21, 2017 08:20:28   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
I was surprised to learn that this lens will not mount on a Canon EOS film camera. My other EF lenses including Canon, Sigma and Tamron mount with no problem. Anyone know anything about this issue?


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Mar 21, 2017 08:29:13   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The mount for this lens is an EF-S. Your film camera is EF. The EF-S mount is specific for cropped sensor digital cameras. Because the cropped sensor is smaller than a frame of 35mm film, the back-end of the EF-S lens can be placed closer to the sensor where the circle of light can be smaller to cover a smaller area, i.e., the cropped sensor.

An EF lens can mount to Canon EOS film, full frame digital and cropped (EF-S) cameras. But, it doesn't go the other way; EF-S lenses are limited to the cropped sensor digital models. The white square icon on the camera body indicates the EF-S mount where the red circle 'dot' is the EF mount.

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Mar 21, 2017 08:31:37   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
leftj wrote:
I was surprised to learn that this lens will not mount on a Canon EOS film camera. My other EF lenses including Canon, Sigma and Tamron mount with no problem. Anyone know anything about this issue?


It is an EF-S lens, designed for APS-C sensors, not full frame sensors. 35mm film is full frame. The image circle is too small so vingetting would occur and you would likely get mirror contact issues at the widest settings which could damage both camera and lens.

Thats why Canon designed the EF-S lenses to not mount on FF bodies.

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Mar 21, 2017 08:49:08   #
mkaplan519
 
Nikon allows you to mount a DX (Nikons equivalent to Canons EF-S) lens on a full frame body but as others have said, canon does not.
You can however on either system mount a FF lens on a crop body.

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Mar 21, 2017 08:49:17   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The mount for this lens is an EF-S. Your film camera is EF. The EF-S mount is specific for cropped sensor digital cameras. Because the cropped sensor is smaller than a frame of 35mm film, the back-end of the EF-S lens can be placed closer to the sensor where the circle of light can be smaller to cover a smaller area, i.e., the cropped sensor.

An EF lens can mount to Canon EOS film, full frame digital and cropped (EF-S) cameras. But, it doesn't go the other way; EF-S lenses are limited to the cropped sensor digital models. The white square icon on the camera body indicates the EF-S mount where the red circle 'dot' is the EF mount.
The mount for this lens is an EF-S. Your film came... (show quote)


Thanks for that info. I do have a new Tamron 16-300mm zoom which specifically states that it is designed for APS-C cameras only and it mounts on the EOS 620 film camera with no problems however I have not shot any film with it yet. Plan to do that today.

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Mar 21, 2017 08:56:07   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The mount for this lens is an EF-S. Your film camera is EF. The EF-S mount is specific for cropped sensor digital cameras. Because the cropped sensor is smaller than a frame of 35mm film, the back-end of the EF-S lens can be placed closer to the sensor where the circle of light can be smaller to cover a smaller area, i.e., the cropped sensor.

An EF lens can mount to Canon EOS film, full frame digital and cropped (EF-S) cameras. But, it doesn't go the other way; EF-S lenses are limited to the cropped sensor digital models. The white square icon on the camera body indicates the EF-S mount where the red circle 'dot' is the EF mount.
The mount for this lens is an EF-S. Your film came... (show quote)


Exactly. The lens doesn't cover a full frame so Canon fixed it so it cannot accidentally be mounted on a FF sensor camera or a film camera which is the same size as the FF sensor.

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Mar 21, 2017 08:56:23   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
leftj wrote:
Thanks for that info. I do have a new Tamron 16-300mm zoom which specifically states that it is designed for APS-C cameras only and it mounts on the EOS 620 film camera with no problems however I have not shot any film with it yet. Plan to do that today.


Expect some visible vignetting, but you won't get damage to either lens or camera.

Whether it is worth wasting film is up to you.

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Mar 21, 2017 09:10:56   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Peterff wrote:
Expect some visible vignetting, but you won't get damage to either lens or camera.

Whether it is worth wasting film is up to you.


Ahh but experimenting is never a waste as long as you learn the answers to your questions.

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Mar 21, 2017 09:16:21   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
leftj wrote:
Ahh but experimenting is never a waste as long as you learn the answers to your questions.


Nothing wrong with experimenting if it does no harm or damage. You will see the results in the viewfinder and can then decide whether to expose a frame or not. You can also "air mount" your 10 - 22 and see how much vignetting you would get.

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Mar 21, 2017 09:36:21   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
mkaplan519 wrote:
Nikon allows you to mount a DX (Nikons equivalent to Canons EF-S) lens on a full frame body but as others have said, canon does not.
You can however on either system mount a FF lens on a crop body.
That's interesting but I don't think anybody asked about a Nikon.

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Mar 21, 2017 09:47:01   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
That's interesting but I don't think anybody asked about a Nikon.


Why would they?

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Mar 21, 2017 10:05:42   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Peterff wrote:
Nothing wrong with experimenting if it does no harm or damage. You will see the results in the viewfinder and can then decide whether to expose a frame or not. You can also "air mount" your 10 - 22 and see how much vignetting you would get.


I may give that a try. Another experiment.

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Mar 21, 2017 10:36:21   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Since a Nikon knuckle-head chimed in, let's use a Nikon example to demonstrate a lens for a cropped sensor (EF-S or DX) on a full frame sensor. Leftj, you know you can research a lot of these questions, right?

http://photographylife.com/using-nikon-dx-lenses-on-fx-cameras/

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Mar 21, 2017 12:31:06   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
A possible "Hack" is to use a EF25 Mark 2 extension tube (not first gen) to mount the EFs lens to a EF body. I do have a 10-22 EFs (one of the great lenses that I have shot). I have a first generation tube only. The Mark 2 was brought out to be able to use EFs lens with.

I love to create images rather than experiments.

J. R.

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Mar 21, 2017 12:39:33   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
leftj wrote:
Thanks for that info. I do have a new Tamron 16-300mm zoom which specifically states that it is designed for APS-C cameras only and it mounts on the EOS 620 film camera with no problems however I have not shot any film with it yet. Plan to do that today.

Canon is the only company to market their lenses designed for APS-C digital sensors with the EF-s mount. Third party lens makers like Tamron and Sigma use EF mounts which allow their crop sensor specific lenses to be mounted on full frame cameras. As indicated earlier, on a full frame body the smaller image circle of these lenses will cause moderately​ high to extremely severe vignetting depending on focal length.

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