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Mar 4, 2017 10:07:59   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
This is getting real interesting.
What if the Obama Administration gave guidance to the intelligence community to investigate Trump for Russia E******n involvement. What if they found nothing?
This could be very big.
The argument of Trump and Russian campaign envolvement could quickly become something else entirely.
What say you?
I'm grabbing my popcorn!

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Mar 4, 2017 10:26:00   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
PalePictures wrote:
This is getting real interesting.
What if the Obama Administration gave guidance to the intelligence community to investigate Trump for Russia E******n involvement. What if they found nothing?
This could be very big.
The argument of Trump and Russian campaign envolvement could quickly become something else entirely.
What say you?
I'm grabbing my popcorn!

I have no doubt that Obama has the tower tapped, the whole Russian fiasco is a battle plan by the democrats to attempt to muddle the administration in so much defensive energy that they are prevented from doing what the people elected them to do.
This entire Russian attack is nothing more than hot air.

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Mar 4, 2017 10:35:32   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
The story I heard related to a bug planted on Trump. This is the way it worked. Govt operatives noted that Trump always wore a certain pin on his lapel. So govt operatives paid Trump's butler to replace that pin with the bugged identical pin. Trump was none the wiser, so Govt got word-for-word record of everything Trump said and heard. Deep in the bowels of Govt that data is being complied in an organized way for a future move to Impeach and Convict should the Democrats retake the House and Senate in 2018. The facts on this are fkying well below the Internet radar so the American people don't know about the deoth and breadth of the data collected.

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Mar 4, 2017 10:59:53   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
PalePictures wrote:
This is getting real interesting.
What if the Obama Administration gave guidance to the intelligence community to investigate Trump for Russia E******n involvement. What if they found nothing?
This could be very big.
The argument of Trump and Russian campaign envolvement could quickly become something else entirely.
What say you?
I'm grabbing my popcorn!


You have two whopping "what-ifs" in your premise. I an surprised that you construct did not mention unicorns.

What about some evidence to back up the BLOTUS Twitter rage?

Never mind. You live in Trump World. You don't need evidence if you have belief. Rage on.

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Mar 4, 2017 11:06:45   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Bazbo wrote:
You have two whopping "what-ifs" in your premise. I an surprised that you construct did not mention unicorns.

What about some evidence to back up the BLOTUS Twitter rage?

Never mind. You live in Trump World. You don't need evidence if you have belief. Rage on.

No more evidence required by you to support one of your many "Trump is evil" stories.

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Mar 4, 2017 11:08:55   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
phcaan wrote:
I have no doubt that Obama has the tower tapped, the whole Russian fiasco is a battle plan by the democrats to attempt to muddle the administration in so much defensive energy that they are prevented from doing what the people elected them to do.
This entire Russian attack is nothing more than hot air.


It would explain a lot if the wire tapping did happen.
It brings up an interesting ethical issue.
Could the NSA tap a p**********l candidates phone even if someone felt like there was an impropriety.
It seems to be a known fact that Russians were involved in trying to influence the e******n.
IMHO everyone and thing influences an e******n. There was no evidence ever that the b****ts were c*********d by the Russians.
That would be serious.
I am not a conspiracy guy but more of a strategist.
"I don't have a dog in that hunt."
If Obama was involved in directing an NSA probe, he couldn't be penalized for it. He was leaving office. No impeachment. Impossible to prove.
It would have been a smart move on his part. Theoretically.
I am really interested on how this will play out.

Trump doesn't use conventional political tactics which seems to drive everyone nuts.
His schooling like many in the corporate world comes from.
Tsu Zu "ART of War" and Attilla the Hun "Leadership Tactics", that along with George S. Clayson "The Richest Man in Babylon"
These books are a must read for many in the business world.
Trump is fighting a corporate game in the political world.
It will be interesting to see how everything will play out.
He could redefine future political tactics like Nathan Bedford Forrest defined Blitz Krieg(Before Hitler reinvented it)

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Mar 4, 2017 11:11:27   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
Bazbo wrote:
You have two whopping "what-ifs" in your premise. I an surprised that you construct did not mention unicorns.

What about some evidence to back up the BLOTUS Twitter rage?

Never mind. You live in Trump World. You don't need evidence if you have belief. Rage on.


I am using a what if scenario.
"I have no dog in this hunt." only popcorn.
Trump just accused the Obama Administration for Wire Tapping Trump Tower.
Like before he turns the argument on it's end.
I like to look at both sides.

I think the less likely what if is... "What if Trump did conspire with the Russians." No evidence yet.
Perhaps there would be an argument to have special hearings and prosecutors for both equally likely scenarios.

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Mar 4, 2017 12:13:17   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
ready!





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Mar 4, 2017 12:29:21   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
green wrote:
ready!


LOL
Me Too!

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Mar 4, 2017 12:31:39   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
PalePictures wrote:
LOL
Me Too!
this last year has really got me interested in the spectacle of government, for the first time ever...

I never even knew the phrase "spectacle of government" existed!

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Mar 4, 2017 12:33:33   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
phcaan wrote:
I have no doubt that Obama has the tower tapped, the whole Russian fiasco is a battle plan by the democrats to attempt to muddle the administration in so much defensive energy that they are prevented from doing what the people elected them to do.
This entire Russian attack is nothing more than hot air.


Sorry, facts do tell, and you are greatly uninformed, misinformed, and malinformed.

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Mar 4, 2017 12:38:24   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
PalePictures wrote:
It would explain a lot if the wire tapping did happen.
It brings up an interesting ethical issue.
Could the NSA tap a p**********l candidates phone even if someone felt like there was an impropriety.
It seems to be a known fact that Russians were involved in trying to influence the e******n.
IMHO everyone and thing influences an e******n. There was no evidence ever that the b****ts were c*********d by the Russians.
That would be serious.
I am not a conspiracy guy but more of a strategist.
"I don't have a dog in that hunt."
If Obama was involved in directing an NSA probe, he couldn't be penalized for it. He was leaving office. No impeachment. Impossible to prove.
It would have been a smart move on his part. Theoretically.
I am really interested on how this will play out.

Trump doesn't use conventional political tactics which seems to drive everyone nuts.
His schooling like many in the corporate world comes from.
Tsu Zu "ART of War" and Attilla the Hun "Leadership Tactics", that along with George S. Clayson "The Richest Man in Babylon"
These books are a must read for many in the business world.
Trump is fighting a corporate game in the political world.
It will be interesting to see how everything will play out.
He could redefine future political tactics like Nathan Bedford Forrest defined Blitz Krieg(Before Hitler reinvented it)
It would explain a lot if the wire tapping did hap... (show quote)


The bugging, if any, need not relate to Obama. It would relate to a FISA court, if in fact there was a legitimate investigation that the court recognized and approved of.

There are suspicions that is the case, but who is being investigated, or why, is only speculation right now.

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Mar 4, 2017 12:42:48   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
green wrote:
this last year has really got me interested in the spectacle of government, for the first time ever...

I never even knew the phrase "spectacle of government" existed!


My question is this: If Russia has something on Trump and is manipulating him with it--and I'm satisfied in my own mind that they do and they are--what constitutional process might drive him from office? Can we rely on Impeachment, when we know the Republicans would fight to the end to protect him, or should we wait until poll numbers become disasterous and Republicans in congress are ready to capulate?

Our Nation is in grave danger.

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Mar 4, 2017 13:02:47   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
green wrote:
this last year has really got me interested in the spectacle of government, for the first time ever...

I never even knew the phrase "spectacle of government" existed!


It's better than reality TV.
It sure seems to have everyone involved in government these days.
My kids often do things that I think are "Going down the wrong Path"
Somehow sometimes they work out better than I expected.
I am usually a conscientious observer in matters of kids and government.
It sure helps to look at my kids perspective.
"For their ways are not my ways."

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Mar 4, 2017 13:16:47   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
PalePictures wrote:
I am using a what if scenario.
"I have no dog in this hunt." only popcorn.
Trump just accused the Obama Administration for Wire Tapping Trump Tower.
Like before he turns the argument on it's end.
I like to look at both sides.

I think the less likely what if is... "What if Trump did conspire with the Russians." No evidence yet.
Perhaps there would be an argument to have special hearings and prosecutors for both equally likely scenarios.


Far more likely is that Trump is annoyed that the Russian story is not going away and pulled this latest chapter of bat-s**t nuts out of his ass as a distraction.

This was a serious allegation and i=t should come with some evidence if BLOTUS wants to be taken seriously.

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