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Mar 3, 2017 09:16:53   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Bultaco wrote:
My 50/1.4 Nikon has IS.


Could you provide a link to one? It might be nice to replace my 50mm 1.4D, but I couldn't find one listed.



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Mar 3, 2017 09:20:28   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Winslowe wrote:
If it says IS, it is not a Nikon!!


Nikon lenses have IS. I do not believe the 1.4 does. Nikon just writes VR but in reality it is IS like all other brands have IS.

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Mar 3, 2017 09:27:12   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
tgreenhaw wrote:
Any ideas why fast primes such as a f1.4 35mm or 50mm aren't made with IS? Am I missing something?


You are not shooting Pentax, all lenses have IS since it is provided with all Pentax Digital Bodies. To be fair a short fast lens is also likely to be using a comfortable shutter speed any way.

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Mar 3, 2017 09:29:11   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
blackest wrote:
You are not shooting Pentax, all lenses have IS since it is provided with all Pentax Digital Bodies. To be fair a short fast lens is also likely to be using a comfortable shutter speed any way.


I have found IS gives me far more keepers regardless of aperture or focal length.
I love it and a vast majority of people do otherwise it would not be on so many lenses.

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Mar 3, 2017 09:44:36   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
The reason why I asked is because I use IS often with my cameras (Nikon) and I cannot see any ill effects. Obviously, IS is not recommended by most manufacturers when the camera is on a tripod.
I am not familiar with the lens you mentioned in your comments because I only use Nikon lenses. When I use speeds high enough to suppress hand movement IS is off and this is most common when I use prime wide angles or normal short range zooms.
I have not seen a report convincing enough against using IS. My Olympus bodies have IS and as I said many times I disable that feature when using wide angles or shutter speeds high enough to suppress hand movement.
IS is a very convenient feature and in my humble opinion it has been an asset to photography.

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Mar 3, 2017 09:45:23   #
BebuLamar
 
May the reason is nowaday people with fast prime tend to use them wide open in broard day light when 1/8000 sec shutter speed isn't enough

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Mar 3, 2017 09:48:29   #
Winslowe
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Nikon just writes VR ...

Which is why if it says IS, it is not a Nikon.

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Mar 3, 2017 09:53:58   #
ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ
 
Winslowe wrote:
Which is why if it says IS, it is not a Nikon.


semantics.

IS, VR, VC, OS, all have the same function. The OP is talking about FUNCTION not brand naming.

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Mar 3, 2017 09:55:33   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Winslowe wrote:
Which is why if it says IS, it is not a Nikon.


They are speaking of the feature not what is written. So yes it can definitely be a Nikon.

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Mar 3, 2017 10:04:27   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Image stabilization is great, but it's not the panacea many make it out to be since it does nothing to stop subject movement. Using a good tripod achieves the same objective of controlling motion blur due to your movement. Short of using a flash or upping the ISO in order to use faster shutter speeds, subject movement is something that needs more attention from the OEM 's IMHO...

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Mar 3, 2017 10:23:16   #
aflundi Loc: Albuquerque, NM
 
Architect1776 wrote:
They are speaking of the feature not what is written. So yes it can definitely be a Nikon.


What Nikon 50mm f/1.4 has image stabilization?

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Mar 3, 2017 10:25:50   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Nikon lenses have IS. I do not believe the 1.4 does. Nikon just writes VR but in reality it is IS like all other brands have IS.

Each company calls their vibration reduction feature with a different name . OS for Sigma, VC for Tamron, VR for Nikon, and IS for Canon. As you point out they are all similar in function. I believe Canon is the only company to use the IS acronym.

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Mar 3, 2017 10:28:38   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Each company calls their vibration reduction feature with a different name . OS for Sigma, VC for Tamron, VR for Nikon, and IS for Canon. As you point out they are all similar in function. I believe Canon is the only company to use the IS acronym.



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Mar 3, 2017 10:43:18   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
tgreenhaw wrote:
Any ideas why fast primes such as a f1.4 35mm or 50mm aren't made with IS? Am I missing something?

Besides a couple of Tamrons mentioned, there are a number of fast Canon primes with image stabilization. Generally a fast prime would be one with an aperture of f/2.8 or wider. Canon has many in this category including the EF 24mm f/2.8 IS USM, the EF 28mm f/2.8 IS USM, and the faster EF 35mm f/2 IS USM. And of course there is the EF 200 mm f/2 IS USM. Adding IS increases the complexity, the size and weight, and the cost of a lens. The EF 35mm f/2 IS USM is somewhat of an anomaly since its fast and has IS but is reasonably small and lightweight.

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Mar 3, 2017 11:37:33   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
imagemeister wrote:
IMO, Regarding the design of the lens , IS is a compromise for user convenience by the manufacturer (Canon, Nikon). Now, Canon/Nikon will never ADMIT to this ......and their IS lenses are still very GOOD quality.

But if you go back in time and look at the Photozone reviews of the Canon 300mm f4L for example, - which is really the only lens comparison that I know of of an IS version vs a non-IS version, Photozone felt that the NON-IS version out performed the IS version, where upon, Canon quickly dropped the non IS version.

Please keep in mind what optical IS is - 3 or 4 moveable lens elements moving around - and these elements would otherwise NOT be there - were it not for the IS accommodation. They are simply an addition to the optical formula - though, I am sure it is engineered do have as minimal an impact as possible.
IMO, Regarding the design of the lens , IS is a co... (show quote)


Don't know about Photozone but the Canon Museum shows the non-IS version of the 300mm lens was introduced in 1991. Six years later Canon introduced the version using IS. Maybe Photozone can explain why many reviews showed the non-IS version to be as sharp, if not sharper than the IS version. The reason Canon discontinued the non-IS version was listed by several reviews as it didn't work well in mid to low light situations. I got rid of mine for that very reason and bought a 2.8 version. I wasn't able to locate Photozone but Bryan Carnation of the-digital-picture.com has very good comments about the non-IS version. I know birders who covet that lens.

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