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Mar 31, 2017 08:02:29   #
Lance Pearson Loc: Viriginia
 
Fotojunky wrote:
Not a newbie to photography, but rather a newbie to this wonderful site. :) Been clicking the shutter for years now and just thinking I would like to take it to the next level is all and trying to get peoples opinions and personal experience before making a purchase. Sometimes the reviews that one reads are biased, and sometimes they aren't personal use, but rather someone who took it out for a week and shot some pics with it. Not a long term, everyday use kind of thing that I was looking for.
Not a newbie to photography, but rather a newbie ... (show quote)


Similar situation...I shot a nikon d90 for a couple years then a d7000 both cropped cmos sensor cameras, a Canon dslr in there along the way. I went without any expectations to a very good quality lightly used Nikon D4 with full frame lenses of nikkor pro quality I'd been buying and shooting on the Excellent D7000 and the difference was just stunningly better with full frame. The nikon full frame sensor on the D4 is so much more iso forgiving it is hard to believe. I went from rare nat. geo quality images to expecting them. I carry a canon eos m3 cmos cropped sensor leaf shutter for travel which is 24 mp also but recently put it in the cabinet in favor of a Sony A7 full frame body but I am using a suite of 30-35 year old Canon FD 35mm film lenses manually via an adapter on it and having a blast. Same thing, the full frame sensor is a revelation better. p.s. long time photographer and have done some professional work but own 250,000 of my own images so been at this a while and always carry a camera with me. Hope this helps. I need to sell my older cameras in the cabinet!

Lance Pearson

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Mar 31, 2017 09:10:41   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Lance Pearson wrote:
Similar situation...I shot a nikon d90 for a couple years then a d7000 both cropped cmos sensor cameras, a Canon dslr in there along the way. I went without any expectations to a very good quality lightly used Nikon D4 with full frame lenses of nikkor pro quality I'd been buying and shooting on the Excellent D7000 and the difference was just stunningly better with full frame. The nikon full frame sensor on the D4 is so much more iso forgiving it is hard to believe. I went from rare nat. geo quality images to expecting them. I carry a canon eos m3 cmos cropped sensor leaf shutter for travel which is 24 mp also but recently put it in the cabinet in favor of a Sony A7 full frame body but I am using a suite of 30-35 year old Canon FD 35mm film lenses manually via an adapter on it and having a blast. Same thing, the full frame sensor is a revelation better. p.s. long time photographer and have done some professional work but own 250,000 of my own images so been at this a while and always carry a camera with me. Hope this helps. I need to sell my older cameras in the cabinet!

Lance Pearson
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Lance.....How would you compare the D4 and the D8XX series? The D4 does not have as MANY pixels but they are larger. Do you think that makes a difference in the results you get?

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Mar 31, 2017 12:40:24   #
Bill P
 
AS your sixth grade teacher would ask, " You may use it but can you?" With Nikon, you may mount a DX lens on an FX camera, but the lens cannot cover the full frame, and it will automatically just use the DX sized part of the sensor. I believe there is a setting to deactivate this, but understand that you photos will look like one from a fisheye, a circular image with black corners and edges.

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Mar 31, 2017 15:55:02   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Fotojunky wrote:
Hello I'm a newbie here and this subject has probably been talked about a million times, but here is my question, with a brief (I hope), explaination. I am an amatuer trying to break into the pro/semi pro area. But I've been using a Nikon d3300 and want something with more. The d3300 is awesome in most cases so far. After countless articles and surveys, and comparisons, I'm in the same spot......confused. I'm a nikon man, (I just love the feel ok?), and I see the options are limitless depending on your budget. I see that the D500 is a crop sensor, but it also seems to out shoot the D750 and D810 in some areas. Would I be better off with a DX or a FX? It seems a lot of companies hiring require a FF/FX camera setup, but I'm not sure if it would be necessary if I free lance. Of course my budget is limited, just like everyone else's, But for what I want to do and where I want to go I can make things happen if I have to, within reason. And speaking of reasons, please don't give me a generic answer, but give me some good reasons why you feel the way you do about your answer. (?) I thank you in advance for all your support.

FJP
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You need to select the hardware according to you shooting preferences and budget. What the rest of us do is irrelevant.

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Mar 31, 2017 18:02:48   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Fotojunky wrote:
Hello I'm a newbie here and this subject has probably been talked about a million times, but here is my question, with a brief (I hope), explaination. I am an amatuer trying to break into the pro/semi pro area. But I've been using a Nikon d3300 and want something with more. The d3300 is awesome in most cases so far. After countless articles and surveys, and comparisons, I'm in the same spot......confused. I'm a nikon man, (I just love the feel ok?), and I see the options are limitless depending on your budget. I see that the D500 is a crop sensor, but it also seems to out shoot the D750 and D810 in some areas. Would I be better off with a DX or a FX? It seems a lot of companies hiring require a FF/FX camera setup, but I'm not sure if it would be necessary if I free lance. Of course my budget is limited, just like everyone else's, But for what I want to do and where I want to go I can make things happen if I have to, within reason. And speaking of reasons, please don't give me a generic answer, but give me some good reasons why you feel the way you do about your answer. (?) I thank you in advance for all your support.

FJP
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I think you're mistaken when you believe most companies require you to have ff cameras, most of them don't give a ..... what you shoot with, as long as the results matches their demand. If you give them an excellent shot, taken with a DX camera, they are happy and take it (they won't trade it for a crappy shot taken with a FX camera)!!! They only require the use of adequate cameras if they want to go bill board! And for that most FX cameras are not adequate!!!

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Mar 31, 2017 18:23:17   #
asiafish Loc: Bakersfield, CA
 
Only you can decide for what and how you like to shoot. My outfit is entirely FX except for a small pocket camera that is APS-C.

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Apr 4, 2017 08:18:08   #
Lance Pearson Loc: Viriginia
 
SteveR wrote:
Lance.....How would you compare the D4 and the D8XX series? The D4 does not have as MANY pixels but they are larger. Do you think that makes a difference in the results you get?


SteveR...I have not shot the d8xx but when I went to the D4 I was not expecting what happened. The full frame sensor is the same number of pixels as my d7000 cropped sensor that I was shooting full frame nikkor pro lenses on anticipating. What happened was an enormous improvement in resolution and a significantly higher batting average of what I call National Geographic Quality images of those I compose and take. The ff sensor in the D4 is not the same sensor but one with larger individual elements in it which means less perimeter for each sensed cell or segment in the sensor across the size as I understand it which is where the noise is. The ff sensors I've used now include the rangefinder ff sensor of 24 mp on the sony A7 shooting legacy film canon fd lenses. Both show the same incredibly bigger range of iso function without adding any or noticeable noise. You can shoot the iso and let it float way, way up on either of the cameras mentioned and see hardly any change which makes interior photos with no flash easily possible or shooting dog shows at indoor arenas which are notoriously poorly lit where you can't use flash and so on. The D4 can shoot an incredible 11 fps and you will capture images and nuances you only dream about. Will the D8xx do that? I don't know but the D4 even a very good quality low shutter count used one like I have is a terrific camera for action photography or any other. There is a new version with a new number (I suspect only bettter for video which I could care less about) but this is bulletproof in terms of build quality, function and reliability. I suspect the d8xx is more for top level amateur use. The D4 and up and their Canon equivilents are pro cameras for a reason...they are very, very good and reliable and well built. Expensive? Yes. Good, yes. I'd guess any full frame cmos sensor will amaze you as it has on the Nikon d4 to me and my travel now art camera the Sony A7 body shooting legacy Canon fd film lenses that are 35 years old and full frame by definition. I skipped over the d8x in favor of used good quality D4....and have not looked back. I have seen good images taken with the d8xx but that's true of all the top range of most camera companies nowadays. Read comparative reviews would be my suggestion. I'm so sold on the D4 that I would not want anything else and I have the good glass lenses for it. How much better does it need to get?

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Apr 4, 2017 19:32:30   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Lance Pearson wrote:
SteveR...I have not shot the d8xx but when I went to the D4 I was not expecting what happened. The full frame sensor is the same number of pixels as my d7000 cropped sensor that I was shooting full frame nikkor pro lenses on anticipating. What happened was an enormous improvement in resolution and a significantly higher batting average of what I call National Geographic Quality images of those I compose and take. The ff sensor in the D4 is not the same sensor but one with larger individual elements in it which means less perimeter for each sensed cell or segment in the sensor across the size as I understand it which is where the noise is. The ff sensors I've used now include the rangefinder ff sensor of 24 mp on the sony A7 shooting legacy film canon fd lenses. Both show the same incredibly bigger range of iso function without adding any or noticeable noise. You can shoot the iso and let it float way, way up on either of the cameras mentioned and see hardly any change which makes interior photos with no flash easily possible or shooting dog shows at indoor arenas which are notoriously poorly lit where you can't use flash and so on. The D4 can shoot an incredible 11 fps and you will capture images and nuances you only dream about. Will the D8xx do that? I don't know but the D4 even a very good quality low shutter count used one like I have is a terrific camera for action photography or any other. There is a new version with a new number (I suspect only bettter for video which I could care less about) but this is bulletproof in terms of build quality, function and reliability. I suspect the d8xx is more for top level amateur use. The D4 and up and their Canon equivilents are pro cameras for a reason...they are very, very good and reliable and well built. Expensive? Yes. Good, yes. I'd guess any full frame cmos sensor will amaze you as it has on the Nikon d4 to me and my travel now art camera the Sony A7 body shooting legacy Canon fd film lenses that are 35 years old and full frame by definition. I skipped over the d8x in favor of used good quality D4....and have not looked back. I have seen good images taken with the d8xx but that's true of all the top range of most camera companies nowadays. Read comparative reviews would be my suggestion. I'm so sold on the D4 that I would not want anything else and I have the good glass lenses for it. How much better does it need to get?
SteveR...I have not shot the d8xx but when I went ... (show quote)


Thanks, Lance!!

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Apr 4, 2017 19:33:50   #
Jim Bob
 
OddJobber wrote:
Need a lot more info on what and how you shoot. Personally I use both FX and DX, as do many others here.


That's because you have good sense.

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Apr 4, 2017 22:08:23   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I use the D500(DX) and the D810(FX) almost interchangeably. It depends on the field of view mostly. I only use FX lenses. Because I don't print huge images I sometimes favor the D500. Both cameras are great, imho. There appears to be no difference in image quality.

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Apr 12, 2017 08:44:46   #
Silverman Loc: Michigan
 
Fotojunky wrote:
Hello I'm a newbie here and this subject has probably been talked about a million times, but here is my question, with a brief (I hope), explaination. I am an amatuer trying to break into the pro/semi pro area. But I've been using a Nikon d3300 and want something with more. The d3300 is awesome in most cases so far. After countless articles and surveys, and comparisons, I'm in the same spot......confused. I'm a nikon man, (I just love the feel ok?), and I see the options are limitless depending on your budget. I see that the D500 is a crop sensor, but it also seems to out shoot the D750 and D810 in some areas. Would I be better off with a DX or a FX? It seems a lot of companies hiring require a FF/FX camera setup, but I'm not sure if it would be necessary if I free lance. Of course my budget is limited, just like everyone else's, But for what I want to do and where I want to go I can make things happen if I have to, within reason. And speaking of reasons, please don't give me a generic answer, but give me some good reasons why you feel the way you do about your answer. (?) I thank you in advance for all your support.

FJP
Hello I'm a newbie here and this subject has proba... (show quote)

If you are a Newbie, as I am, I would suggest keep the D3300, I would suggest you get more experience, improve your Skill level, then and only then might you move up to a Full Frame Camera $$$, F.F.lens $$$,
You must be honest with yourself, ask yourself, do I totally know and understand enough about Photography to need or require a much more expensive Camera and Lens at this present time??
The more buttons and Dials on a Camera require more Skill and Knowledge to make them work proficiently. Hope this helps. Ask others here at this site about G.A.S.
I myself have the Nikon D3300 with the Nikon 18-55, 55-200 and the 35mm 1.8g prime lens. I read, watch Videos and practice, hoping to be a skilled Photographer one day soon.
You might check out "Creative Live", they have online classes $$--$$$$, I am presently enrollled in 2 beginner classes, to learn and improve my Photography skills.

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Apr 12, 2017 08:49:59   #
Silverman Loc: Michigan
 
Who knows here what the Photography term "G.A.S." means, I presently have forgot. ??

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Apr 12, 2017 09:18:00   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
what do you shoot that dx can't handle as well???????????

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