green
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green wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/meet-the-texas-wrestler-who-won-a-girls-state-title-his-name-is-mack/2017/02/25/982bd61c-fb6f-11e6-be05-1a3817ac21a5_story.html
personally, I think Mack should have been disqualified for using testosterone injections... or made to wrestle in with the g****r he self-identifies with... the question is not just as easy as grabbing their crotch ala Chief Dan George in "Little Big Man".
knuckle-d**ggers, what say you?
Given her decision to self-identify as a boy, she should have competed in the boy's competition. T*********rs can't have it both ways IMO.
FrumCA wrote:
Given her decision to self-identify as a boy, she should have competed in the boy's competition. T*********rs can't have it both ways IMO.
That is the problem with all this B.S., they do want it both ways.
I used to wrestle in High School. At the time, East German women dominated the Olympic games in 1972. It was later found out that the entire East German swimming team and most other East German female Olympians had been taking steroids as a routine part of the established East German sports program. Almost no one besides the East Germans considered this to be fair play.
I don't think this has anything to do with g****r issues per se. It has to do with giving one person an unfair advantage over everybody else. The increase in strength from steroid use is way more effective in women than in men. That is why the East German Government chose not to give their male athletes steroids because the gains to be had were not worth the risk of getting caught.
In almost any sport where there are inherent performance advantages for men, the sport is divided into men's and women's groups, such as tennis, basketball, soccer, even sometimes chess. Usually, the women participants are free to advance into the male group if they are sufficiently competitive and willing, but never the other way around. No sane person would ever call that fair.
People who think that Mackenzie would be at an unfair disadvantage if she were forced to wrestle boyz would probably be right. But they never think that the hundreds of other girls who are forced to participate with steroid-using Mackenzie are also at a disadvantage. Which is more beneficial to society? Causing one person to be at a disadvantage, or hundreds of people?
This kind of unfair stupidity of letting a steroid user compete in high school is just going to lead to a huge backlash against the organizers.
Steven Seward wrote:
I used to wrestle in High School. At the time, East German women dominated the Olympic games in 1972. It was later found out that the entire East German swimming team and most other East German female Olympians had been taking steroids as a routine part of the established East German sports program. Almost no one besides the East Germans considered this to be fair play.
I don't think this has anything to do with g****r issues per se. It has to do with giving one person an unfair advantage over everybody else. The increase in strength from steroid use is way more effective in women than in men. That is why the East German Government chose not to give their male athletes steroids because the gains to be had were not worth the risk of getting caught.
In almost any sport where there are inherent performance advantages for men, the sport is divided into men's and women's groups, such as tennis, basketball, soccer, even sometimes chess. Usually, the women participants are free to advance into the male group if they are sufficiently competitive and willing, but never the other way around. No sane person would ever call that fair.
People who think that Mackenzie would be at an unfair disadvantage if she were forced to wrestle boyz would probably be right. But they never think that the hundreds of other girls who are forced to participate with steroid-using Mackenzie are also at a disadvantage. Which is more beneficial to society? Causing one person to be at a disadvantage, or hundreds of people?
This kind of unfair stupidity of letting a steroid user compete in high school is just going to lead to a huge backlash against the organizers.
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You are exactly correct. Mackenzie used performance enhancing drugs and the others were not allowed to do so. In my opinion, he/she should have been disqualified for using performance enhancing drugs no matter what tournament she wrestled.
Males run faster, jump higher and are stronger than females. Look at world records. I am not saying that all men are faster than all women. Some world class women sprinters, high jumpers and weight lifters can go faster, jump higher and lift more weight than I could in my prime but I was never a world class athlete.
He/she must have been a good wrestler but she/he did use performance enhancing drugs.
This is about more than g****r identification.
I've got one more scenario to show the lunacy of this situation. What if the entire U.S. Women's Olympic Weightlifting team took steroids to train for the 2020 Games and simply told Olympic officials "We are all in t***sition to become men, but for now we want to compete with the women, so this should be allowed." What do you think the outcry from the international community would be??
green wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/meet-the-texas-wrestler-who-won-a-girls-state-title-his-name-is-mack/2017/02/25/982bd61c-fb6f-11e6-be05-1a3817ac21a5_story.html
personally, I think Mack should have been disqualified for using testosterone injections... or made to wrestle in with the g****r he self-identifies with... the question is not just as easy as grabbing their crotch ala Chief Dan George in "Little Big Man".
knuckle-d**ggers, what say you?
The main, number one knuckle-d**gger is you crap for brains. So why should anyone else have to say anything? Now, thief and plagiarizer that did not hurt your little feelings did it? Poor baby.
BTW, how are your injections going? Imbecile.
sb
Loc: Florida's East Coast
It is kind of a no-win situation. It would be awkward for "her" to wrestle with the boys, but it is unfair to the other girls for someone getting testosterone, even when prescribed, to compete against them.
Testosterone is a performance enhancing drug. It is illegal in any tournament. That will not solve the g****r problem but she should have been disqualified. Rules are not flexible.
Wrangler wrote:
Testosterone is a performance enhancing drug. It is illegal in any tournament. ...
Except for a Tournament held on a Full, Queen, or King size playing field. Tuck it between your legs boys... the new world order is here.
I just saw a statement by the deputy director of the UIL, the sanctioning body for high school sports in Texas. He said that if a student is prescribed performance enhancing drugs by a doctor, that student shall not be declared ineligible. Given that rule, the t*********r wrestler is legal.
In my opinion that rule is a flawed rule because it opens the door to unscrupulous doctors prescribing performance enhancing drugs.
Given that bit of information the UIL correctly applied the rules. It is my opinion that all performance enhancing drugs should be banned. My opinion doesn't carry much weight with the UIL or any sanctioning body.
dpullum wrote:
Except for a Tournament held on a Full, Queen, or King size playing field. Tuck it between your legs boys... the new world order is here.
What the Hell does that mean?
Cykdelic
Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
green wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/meet-the-texas-wrestler-who-won-a-girls-state-title-his-name-is-mack/2017/02/25/982bd61c-fb6f-11e6-be05-1a3817ac21a5_story.html
personally, I think Mack should have been disqualified for using testosterone injections... or made to wrestle in with the g****r he self-identifies with... the question is not just as easy as grabbing their crotch ala Chief Dan George in "Little Big Man".
knuckle-d**ggers, what say you?
He did use illegal stimulants ........ if another had done this they would be disqualified.
It's my understanding the wrestler wants to wrestle in the boys division, but the state law prevents it (birth certificate law)
FrumCA wrote:
Given her decision to self-identify as a boy, she should have competed in the boy's competition. T*********rs can't have it both ways IMO.
She was REQUIRED by the state dept. that decides these things to enter the girl's division. She had nothing to do with it.
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