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Feb 16, 2017 07:43:10   #
jackinkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Custom set your color balance. Forget filters - those are for film.

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Feb 16, 2017 08:25:32   #
tshift Loc: Overland Park, KS.
 
ChiefEW wrote:
I have tried a variety of ways using Photoshop Elements 10 (need to up date)? I keep trying to figure out how to set the white balance on the camera? I have a Nikon 5300. I have also wondered if any filter would work?
Will be taking pictures of a friends wedding and would like to do the best job possible. Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s) I might receive.


Hi. Not to be nasty but please rethink taking photos for your friend. If you don't know how to set white balance in your camera you are setting yourself up for a big time failure. Do your friends have another photographer shooting their weeding? I hope so. Just rethink this as I won't to see everyone succeed at photography. Practice all you can, and read everything you can get your hands on. Good luck I really hope this turns out OK. Thanks

Tom

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Feb 16, 2017 08:51:42   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
rmalarz wrote:
I do an image specific white balance on almost everything I photograph.
--Bob


That's all well and good when the lighting is consistent. For something like a wedding you will spend all you time paying the Kelvin game rather than getting the shot. Shoot raw and auto WB and set the WB in post. As the photographer you should be ever vigilant to what is going with the people, taking oodles of shots and not playing with the settings.

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Feb 16, 2017 08:52:13   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
If you are asking this question there is no way you are ready to shoot someone's, no anyone's wedding photos. Back away now before you ruin your friendship.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

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Feb 16, 2017 08:53:28   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
ChiefEW wrote:
I have tried a variety of ways using Photoshop Elements 10 (need to up date)? I keep trying to figure out how to set the white balance on the camera? I have a Nikon 5300. I have also wondered if any filter would work?
Will be taking pictures of a friends wedding and would like to do the best job possible. Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s) I might receive.


Please, oh please, just Read The Fine Manual. It will offer several options for setting your white balance.

Every digital camera has a white balance control for JPEG output. It does not affect raw files, except to leave its notation in the EXIF file that is part of a raw file, so you can simulate the camera's JPEG processing when you open the raw file.

Most yellowish household lighting and stage lighting is incandescent, or SIMULATES incandescent with LEDs or CFLs. The color temperature is around 2700 K for home lighting, and 3200 K for stage lighting (less those colored gels).

You can pre-set your camera to the incandescent white balance setting (usually a light bulb icon), OR, you can pre-set the color temperature, OR, you can pre-set a CUSTOM white balance (which Nikon, for some arcane reason, calls a "Pre-Set" white balance...). OR, you can just use AWB and watch the color stay yellowish. (AWB isn't very good for incandescent lighting correction on most dSLRs.)

The very best way to set white balance is to set a custom white balance, using a target of some sort. If you go to B&H at this link — https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=white+balance+targets&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&typedValue=&Top+Nav-Search= — you will find lots of options. My first pick would be a 2-pack of Delta-1 8x10 gray cards.
At $13, they're cheap, and very effective, and will sell you on the concept of custom white balance if you use the card correctly. Better solutions are available for high end work, but take some serious knowledge to exploit their uses.

Setting a custom white balance involves pointing the camera at the gray card, filling the frame with it IN THE *EXACT* SAME LIGHT FALLING ON YOUR SUBJECT, and then following the procedure outlined in your camera manual, which differs for each brand of camera.

Again, this is for JPEG capture. For raw capture, just photograph the card IN THE *EXACT* SAME LIGHT FALLING ON YOUR SUBJECT, make a series of exposures in that light, and use the gray card frame as your "click balance" reference in post-processing software. Re-set a custom white balance any time the light changes.

Be sure your computer monitor is CALIBRATED and PROFILED, using a colorimeter and software kit such as X-RITE i1, Colormunki, DataColor Spyder5Pro, etc. Otherwise, you might be looking at false color, and prints won't match your monitor, and other people will not see the color you intended them to see.

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Feb 16, 2017 09:11:19   #
Oly Guy
 
Good advice! Also look at the LCD screen or have it on live view as you try the white balance changes-it will change the Wbalance and show how it will look as you can then see the results. Canon does that Nikon may not. Different light bulb sources need to be adjusted before shooting. The custom WB setting will eliminate it also-read up on how to set your custom white balance. Shooting with flash once set for the same light stays set for the same lights-which is nice with weddings restaurants etc. Try a few different test shots before shooting pics of people with and without flash. Usually with flash is easier because the flash is the main light source. The new Fluorescence lights give more yellow which may do better with the setting for that on the Menu for Balance options.

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Feb 16, 2017 09:18:55   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
Just shoot a grey card and leave the camera in sun or any fixed mode , not auto/ WB.

Later in Lightroom or Photoshop you can target the card reference and correct with a profile...separate the inside and outside WB. The grey card is 50% grey and will be the correction reference no matter how off the color looks in raw or jpeg.

You can do a custom in camera correction with the card also. The best more advanced system is Color Checker Passport.

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Feb 16, 2017 09:29:08   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
Just shoot black and white (no yellow there)😂😳😁

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Feb 16, 2017 10:57:19   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
One comment first - I Don't Shoot Weddings!!!!!!!. The "Wedding" pictures are just too important for anybody other than a full time wedding pro to do. I will gladly shoot candids of guests and dancing and such since those photos are just B-Roll.
However, if for some reason you need to be the one to shoot the wedding, shoot in raw and have backup memory cards and a backup camera on hand. Spare batteries for camera and flash are important.
You also want to have a sidekick to watch all that's going on and coach you on shots you need to get. You can get so focused in one area that you may miss something important. (Not being a Wedding Photographer you don't really know what's important???)

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Feb 16, 2017 11:03:47   #
Joecosentino Loc: Whitesboro, New York
 
Besides white balance do you have fast lenses to get good quality low noise into photos, my guess is you don't use flash because you could gel your flash and adjust the white balance in camera. Also do you have a backup camera in case yours gets dropped, something spilled on it, or it just stops working. How many batteries do you have? Do you have enough memory cards to shoot the whole day?

Just a few more things to think about.

Good luck
Joe

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Feb 16, 2017 11:37:54   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
First off, it's best if you shoot raw so that you can change the w/b and it won't cause weird thing to happen. W/B is a little difficult to talk about because it's not just one simple thing you need to do. There are several ways to take care of w/b. I'll touch on a few.

1. Setting a custom w/b in camera so that it's correct as you shoot
2. Shooting a gray card in each and every different lighting condition and using that picture in post to set w/b of all pictures taken in that light.
3. Using custom tools like X-rite ColorChecker Passport to correct w/b and color by creating profiles and also dual lighting condition profiles
4. Using a custom tool that fits on your lens like the ExpoDisc 2.0 https://www.rogueflash.com/products/expodisc-2-0?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=997135228&gclid=CjwKEAiAlZDFBRCKncm67qihiHwSJABtoNIgj1Wr6uSXyMUr-cOGaXZ3PB9PYLkwqwKkV21Jzb55jRoCXlHw_wcB
5. Simply adjusting w/b in either Lightroom, or ACR (Adobe Camera Raw) by using sliders

It would take some time to teach how to do each one. If you are not using flash, the easiest one to do is the ExpoDisc. The second easiest is to shoot a gray card.
First off, it's best if you shoot raw so that you ... (show quote)

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Yep!

I agree to this procedure.

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Feb 16, 2017 11:42:25   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
ChiefEW wrote:
I have tried a variety of ways using Photoshop Elements 10 (need to up date)? I keep trying to figure out how to set the white balance on the camera? I have a Nikon 5300. I have also wondered if any filter would work?
Will be taking pictures of a friends wedding and would like to do the best job possible. Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s) I might receive.


All you have to do is Turn live view on, hold down WB Button and turn wheel in front of shutter button until you get the WB you like. Easy as Pie.
You will see it change with each click of the wheel. Not Rocket Sience like everyone is making it to be. Hope this helps.

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Feb 16, 2017 11:48:06   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
ChiefEW wrote:
I have tried a variety of ways using Photoshop Elements 10 (need to up date)? I keep trying to figure out how to set the white balance on the camera? I have a Nikon 5300. I have also wondered if any filter would work?
Will be taking pictures of a friends wedding and would like to do the best job possible. Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s) I might receive.


The light indoors is generally yellow by nature because it is incandescent. To remove the cast it is best to set your cameras white balance to incandescent and not do it in photoshop in post. During film days you did not have to remember to do this because the lab you went to fixed it in processing. To use a filter it would have to be a blue filter the exact amount of blue as you have in yellow. Filters are impractical in this situation because you unless you have access to a colorimeter and a way to build a filter for the lens you won't get the right filtration for the camera. The easiest method would be use two of the same camera bodies one tuned to daylight and one tuned to incandescent but that is also impractical. The other option is why all pro's use several very good off camera flash units.
I went to my first wedding and shot it Ok and when I turned pro I had all that information in my brain before I attempted the second one. By the third one I was working for a pro as his assistant and then learned all the tricks in his trick bag. The I photographed over 1500 weddings using film . Digital is my domain now even though I retired I still shoot for a living. which is why I make the next comment.
As for the wedding since your unable to set white balance in your camera please refer the wedding to a professional. The bride and groom will appreciate the offer but they need a pro at this important part of their lives not an amateur. I have also spent time fixing what the supposed pro's have screwed up by going on a reshoot for a couple of studios. Reshoots are not really nice places to be at. The bride and groom are angry as well as the guests that had to suit up to be re-posed. You have to have a personal skill set to do this kind of re-shoot. It was in these cases a re-shoot or the studio owners I bailed out were to be sued. Think carefully before you choose to perform an act you cannot perform well. In short hire a pro! http://elm7photography.zenfolio.com/

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Feb 16, 2017 11:57:39   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
Joecosentino wrote:
Besides white balance do you have fast lenses to get good quality low noise into photos, my guess is you don't use flash because you could gel your flash and adjust the white balance in camera. Also do you have a backup camera in case yours gets dropped, something spilled on it, or it just stops working. How many batteries do you have? Do you have enough memory cards to shoot the whole day?

Just a few more things to think about.

Good luck
Joe


It is not fast lenses that you need to shoot a wedding. I shot all of my weddings at f8. In fact that was in film days. In todays digital I still set my shutter to f8 to shoot events like weddings.
Just for general knowledge you really need 2 of everything when you shoot a wedding and a lot of knowledge. Probably more knowledge than you will get here. Just like launching a shuttle into space, you need redundant systems and a lot of knowledge before you launch that shuttle to keep it from crashing.

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Feb 16, 2017 12:01:09   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
drklrd wrote:
It is not fast lenses that you need to shoot a wedding. I shot all of my weddings at f8. In fact that was in film days. In todays digital I still set my shutter to f8 to shoot events like weddings.
Just for general knowledge you really need 2 of everything when you shoot a wedding and a lot of knowledge. Probably more knowledge than you will get here. Just like launching a shuttle into space, you need redundant systems and a lot of knowledge before you launch that shuttle to keep it from crashing.
It is not fast lenses that you need to shoot a wed... (show quote)


Balogna.😂

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