Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Check out Landscape Photography section of our forum.
Main Photography Discussion
Full Frame vs. Crop Sensor
Page <prev 2 of 11 next> last>>
Feb 10, 2017 11:14:32   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
If anyone has a real cramp regarding repeat subjects,why oh why would you look at the post? It's a rhetorical question,so please don't answer. Just wait for another cramp! LOL!

Reply
Feb 10, 2017 11:54:45   #
Just Trying To Focus Loc: Jackson County, Michigan
 
DaveO wrote:
If anyone has a real cramp regarding repeat subjects,why oh why would you look at the post? It's a rhetorical question,so please don't answer. Just wait for another cramp! LOL!

I wondered the same! 😊

Reply
Feb 10, 2017 11:56:51   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
DaveO wrote:
If anyone has a real cramp regarding repeat subjects,why oh why would you look at the post? It's a rhetorical question,so please don't answer. Just wait for another cramp! LOL!


Exactly! Many new users, and old buzzards like myself see a thread like this, and it's quite informative. Yes, I do know how to use the search function, however many threads that have been previously covered still peak my interest.

Reply
Check out Bridge Camera Show Case section of our forum.
Feb 10, 2017 12:02:35   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Chances are, if you have to ask, then you don't need it. Put a smaller sensor in the hands of a pro, and a full frame sensor in the hands of a novice, and I bet the pro wins out every time. You still need to learn the basics (exposure triangle, composition, reading the available light, etc.) as well as how to properly post-process an image.

FYI, I use a m4/3 sensor (2x crop factor when compared to FF)...and I see no reason to ever buy FF, unless maybe I was shooting low light high iso.

Reply
Feb 10, 2017 12:06:18   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Exactly! Many new users, and old buzzards like myself see a thread like this, and it's quite informative. Yes, I do know how to use the search function, however many threads that have been previously covered still peak my interest.


I have a short attention span,but I don't place my hand on a hot stove.

Reply
Feb 10, 2017 12:13:11   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
DW wrote:
Good morning all, just wanted to get some opinions on the full frame vs crop sensor debate. Which do you use and why?


Pictures speak louder than words.

Same birds, minutes apart. D500, with a 300mm lens, about 30 -32 ft from cardinal. D800, 600mm lens about 35-40 ft away. Difference in focal length is mitigated by the "reach" that many people point at as a consideration in getting a crop sensor camera, and the fact that the D500 image was taken at a closer distance - so essentially this is a comparison between an orange and a cropped orange. (not apples and oranges)

Any questions?

Noise, fine detail rendition, clarity, tonality - considerably better in the 3 yr old D800 compared to the current D500.

D500, equivalent angle of view 450mm /1250, F5.6, ISO 800
D500, equivalent angle of view 450mm /1250, F5.6, ...
(Download)

D800 - 600mm, 1/500, F8, ISO 800
D800 - 600mm, 1/500, F8, ISO 800...
(Download)

Reply
Feb 10, 2017 12:17:48   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
orrie smith wrote:
Full frame is more desirable when shooting stills, portrait, and landscapes. They usually handle noise in higher ISO settings, so are preferred in low light situations.
Cropped sensor is preferred in wildlife for the "extended" reach that it has and for faster shutter speeds.
That being said, it depends on an individuals preferences and how much you wish to invest, as DX cameras and lenses are usually less expensive. As far as image quality, in my opinion, there is really not that much difference for general photography. I own and use both formats and they each come in handy for various reasons.
Full frame is more desirable when shooting stills,... (show quote)


Reach is overrated. Difference in image quality is underrated.

Reply
 
 
Feb 10, 2017 12:21:53   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 

Reply
Feb 10, 2017 12:38:56   #
Djedi
 
I kept trading up until I had the full frame camera I wanted. Then I found that for long telephoto shots, a 24MP crop frame actually gives more detail than a 36MP full frame. So now I have both. To tell the truth, if I had to live with only one, I could easily live with a crop frame.
W

Reply
Feb 10, 2017 13:14:02   #
globtrotr
 
A nice demonstration regarding the discussion. Thanks! BTW, I shoot the same two cameras.

Reply
Feb 10, 2017 14:03:37   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
They sure do Gene!! Your responses and explanations are always on the mark!! Thanks!
Mark(no pun intended)

Gene51 wrote:
Pictures speak louder than words.

Same birds, minutes apart. D500, with a 300mm lens, about 30 -32 ft from cardinal. D800, 600mm lens about 35-40 ft away. Difference in focal length is mitigated by the "reach" that many people point at as a consideration in getting a crop sensor camera, and the fact that the D500 image was taken at a closer distance - so essentially this is a comparison between an orange and a cropped orange. (not apples and oranges)

Any questions?

Noise, fine detail rendition, clarity, tonality - considerably better in the 3 yr old D800 compared to the current D500.
Pictures speak louder than words. br br Same bird... (show quote)

Reply
Check out Commercial and Industrial Photography section of our forum.
Feb 10, 2017 14:11:42   #
PeggySue58 Loc: Sedro Woolley, WA
 
DaveO wrote:
If anyone has a real cramp regarding repeat subjects,why oh why would you look at the post? It's a rhetorical question,so please don't answer. Just wait for another cramp! LOL!



Reply
Feb 10, 2017 14:56:52   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
I use both because you can never have too many cameras!

Reply
Feb 10, 2017 15:00:19   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Chances are, if you have to ask, then you don't need it. Put a smaller sensor in the hands of a pro, and a full frame sensor in the hands of a novice, and I bet the pro wins out every time. You still need to learn the basics (exposure triangle, composition, reading the available light, etc.) as well as how to properly post-process an image. FYI, I use a m4/3 sensor (2x crop factor when compared to FF)...and I see no reason to ever buy FF, unless maybe I was shooting low light high iso.



Reply
Feb 10, 2017 15:42:57   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
markngolf wrote:
They sure do Gene!! Your responses and explanations are always on the mark!! Thanks!
Mark(no pun intended)


Thanks!

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 11 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Check out Street Photography section of our forum.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.