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Feb 3, 2017 11:45:03   #
FlyingTiger Loc: Tortola, BVI
 
JamesCurran wrote:
"Free Speech" means I (well, actually, the government) can't stop you from speaking. It does NOT require anyone give you a soapbox to speak on. The protester were just exercising their right to free speech.

Except for the violence. No one on the left condones that. Now, I'm assuming your message was inspired by the Milo Yiannopoulos speech. The organizers of that protest were very quick to condemn those people who destroyed the property. They also point out that those people were not of the planning of the protest, and just show up, got violent and then disappeared. SInce we've already seen Craig list ads hiring people specifically to get violent at otherwise peaceful demonstrations, it wouldn't be surprising it Yiannopoulos hired those people just to discredit his protestors.
"Free Speech" means I (well, actually, t... (show quote)


You are an i***t and a fool. A very low IQ fool at that. Free Speech means much, much more than absence of government involvement in stopping speech. Try and get above 3rd grade imbecile.

You say the left does not condone the violence? You are a moronic liar. Of course they condone it stupid, they are the ones committing the violence. Did you parents have any children that lived? Imbecile

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Feb 3, 2017 11:58:23   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
FlyingTiger wrote:
You are an i***t and a fool. A very low IQ fool at that. Free Speech means much, much more than absence of government involvement in stopping speech. Try and get above 3rd grade imbecile.


1st Amendment wrote:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


The fourteenth amendment applied it to state governments, but nothing applies it to individuals people, and of course, never to corporations.


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You say the left does not condone the violence? You are a moronic liar. Of course they condone it stupid, they are the ones committing the violence. Did you parents have any children that lived? Imbecile


And the proof you have the left is committing the violence? As I pointed out, it'll be much more beneficial to the Right to cause the violence and blame it on the left.

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Feb 3, 2017 12:22:12   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Wrong again, greenie!

My comment was a response to James Curran who was not-so-sublimely saying this Milo guy paid the evil doers to perp their evil!

If you somehow agree, it makes you a dimmer bulb than I thought. One can analyze any event by reviewing past events, and the progressive left has been caught time and time again being directly involved in alleged "peaceful protests" like this, oft via Saint Soros moolah.


They don't come much dimmer than Green

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Feb 3, 2017 12:23:24   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
JamesCurran wrote:
"Free Speech" means I (well, actually, the government) can't stop you from speaking. It does NOT require anyone give you a soapbox to speak on. The protester were just exercising their right to free speech.

Except for the violence. No one on the left condones that. Now, I'm assuming your message was inspired by the Milo Yiannopoulos speech. The organizers of that protest were very quick to condemn those people who destroyed the property. They also point out that those people were not of the planning of the protest, and just show up, got violent and then disappeared. SInce we've already seen Craig list ads hiring people specifically to get violent at otherwise peaceful demonstrations, it wouldn't be surprising it Yiannopoulos hired those people just to discredit his protestors.
"Free Speech" means I (well, actually, t... (show quote)


Spoken like a true i***t.

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Feb 3, 2017 12:25:07   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
ken hubert wrote:
They don't come much dimmer than Green
kenny kenny... sore loser much?

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Feb 3, 2017 12:26:36   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
green wrote:
kenny kenny... sore loser much?


Don't know, have never lost. Especially to you.

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Feb 3, 2017 12:36:27   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
green wrote:
let me explain in a non-partisan way...

Berkeley students held a non-violent protest against Milo, a breitbart contributer accused of incendiary speech. They were paying for him to speak as well as for security, so it is well within their rights to protest him coming to campus. 150 outside agitators, organized and wearing masks created, or at least initiated the violence. It was a false-f**g operation... each side blames the other... no one was arrested, so we may never know.

Now let me explain the 1st amendment... it protects the right of free expression from government interference, it doesn't protect free speech from public and private institutions,crowds of students, companies or even administrators of online forums... it just says that the government will not f@ck with your right.
let me explain in a non-partisan way... br br Ber... (show quote)


Fair enough, But why hire him if you don't want him to speak. Not only that, but Milo had a right to speak , and in fact it's the governments responsibility to protect that right. So the protestors were uning f*****t techniques to violate his right. If there wsno protest there would have not been any violence. SWo the protestors were at least partly responsible for that violence. My confusion was in liberals screaming against conservatives as f*****ts while unsing f*****t techniques themselves. BTW in current times I NEVER see conservatives protesting against liberal speakers. There was no conservative protests against whatsher name for a so=peech .where she thought about blowing up the Whitehouse. If a conservative would have said something like tht when Obama was in the white house his ass would have been jail. (It's a FEDERAL offence to threaten the president).

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Feb 3, 2017 12:38:39   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
boberic wrote:
Fair enough, But why hire him if you don't want him to speak. Not only that, but Milo had a right to speak , and in fact it's the governments responsibility to protect that right. So the protestors were uning f*****t techniques to violate his right. If there wsno protest there would have not been any violence. SWo the protestors were at least partly responsible for that violence. My confusion was in liberals screaming against conservatives as f*****ts while unsing f*****t techniques themselves. BTW in current times I NEVER see conservatives protesting against liberal speakers. There was no conservative protests against whatsher name for a so=peech .where she thought about blowing up the Whitehouse. If a conservative would have said something like tht when Obama was in the white house his ass would have been jail. (It's a FEDERAL offence to threaten the president).
Fair enough, But why hire him if you don't want h... (show quote)
some wanted him, some didn't... and some others just wanted to cause trouble... guess which some won?

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Feb 3, 2017 12:56:34   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
ken hubert wrote:
Spoken like a true i***t.



Sorry, Kenny-boy, if you are going to throw around random insults, you're going to have to back them up with actual evidence. Please point out exactly what is wrong with what I wrote? (hint: nothing is wrong with it).

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Feb 3, 2017 12:58:19   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
JamesCurran wrote:
Sorry, Kenny-boy, if you are going to throw around random insults, you're going to have to back them up with actual evidence. Please point out exactly what is wrong with what I wrote? (hint: nothing is wrong with it).
kenny has a special membership that allows him simply insult people... he's learning the linking process... if you notice, he doesn't link? ...the missing link?


he should be coming along shortly... he's a bit of a stalker

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Feb 3, 2017 13:01:23   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
green wrote:
kenny has a special membership that allows him simply insult people... he's learning the linking process... if you notice, he doesn't link? ...the missing link?


That's because YOU are the missing link.

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Feb 3, 2017 13:01:38   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
boberic wrote:
The liberals are always complaining that the right limits free speech and that they are f*****ts. Why then are all those liberal protesters pr With facist tacteventing conservative speakers , who were invited to speak at universities, from speaking. Not only that, the destroy private property and assualt police. This behavior is the definition of f*****m. That's why I am confused. The protest f*****m with f*****m. I don't understand. I just realized that sevaral sentences make no sense, my computer is screwed up, the screen is cracked, so sometimes words get interrupted. I am looking for a replacement.
The liberals are always complaining that the right... (show quote)


Who are the facist tacteventing conservative speakers

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Feb 3, 2017 13:02:29   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
boberic wrote:
Fair enough, But why hire him if you don't want him to speak.


Milo was hired by a conservative student group.


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Not only that, but Milo had a right to speak , and in fact it's the governments responsibility to protect that right.


Absolutely not. That's all on you.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png
http://xkcd.com/1357/

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Feb 3, 2017 13:02:45   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
JamesCurran wrote:
Sorry, Kenny-boy, if you are going to throw around random insults, you're going to have to back them up with actual evidence. Please point out exactly what is wrong with what I wrote? (hint: nothing is wrong with it).


Why bother? Your last sentence proved that you have a closed mind. ( what little mind you do have ).

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Feb 3, 2017 13:05:57   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Cykdelic wrote:
.....yet the only ones who have actually been CAUGHT paying people to go to events and protest and incite violence was the Democrat party during the last e******n.


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