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Jan 31, 2017 23:39:34   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
The victim was the third member of her Yemeni-American family to be k**led by the U.S.

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The first military raid carried out under the administration of President Donald Trump was a disaster, U.S. officials acknowledge. According to a Yemeni politician, it was a massacre of women and children.

On Sunday, January 29, Secret Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) forces carried out a raid in southern Yemen — Trump's first clandestine operation. An unnamed senior military official told NBC News, "Almost everything went wrong." Officials acknowledged that several civilians were k**led, along with members of al-Qaeda.

Among the victims was an 8-year-old girl named Nawar al-Awlaki, the daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen and extremist propagandist with links to al-Qaeda who was assassinated in a drone strike in Yemen in 2011. President Obama personally authorized the k*****g of Anwar al-Awlaki, without trial. Two weeks after his death, another U.S. drone strike k**led Anwar's son, 16-year-old U.S. citizen Abdulrahman al-Awlaki. Unlike his father, Abdulrahman did not have any links to al-Qaeda.

Nawar, the latest civilian victim of U.S. violence in the Middle East, was Abdulrahman's sister. She is at least the third member of the al-Awlaki family to be k**led by the U.S.


Nawar was not the only innocent victim of President Trump's first raid (which, despite earlier media reports to the contrary, was approved by Trump, not Obama). According to her grandfather, Nasser al-Awlaki, a politician who previously served as Yemen's agriculture minister, U.S. SEALs k**led even more civilians. Nasser spoke with Yemeni sources to get to the bottom of what happened during the raid. He told NBC News that Nawar was sitting in a house with her mother when she was suddenly shot in the neck. She died after suffering for two hours.

"Other children in the same house were k**led," Nasser said.

After the raid on this house, the SEALs "entered another house and k**led everybody in it, including all the women," Nasser continued. Then, "They burned the house."

The U.S. government disputes this account. While conceding that some civilians were k**led, U.S. officials claimed some of the women were actually militants who fired at the SEALs.

The exact circumstances around the k*****g vary according to the source, as does the death toll. The Pentagon says 14 combatants were k**led, along with "numerous" civilians. Yemeni officials estimate as many as 59 militants and civilians were k**led, Nasser al-Awlaki said.

There is a precedent for U.S. officials lying about secretive raids carried out by Special Operations forces. Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Seymour Hersh wrote an expose claiming the Obama administration lied about the circumstances surrounding the k*****g of al-Qaeda kingpin Osama bin Laden by SEALs (although multiple accounts of the incident contradicted each other in the first place).

Moreover, investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill has probed how U.S. forces tried to cover up a raid in Afghanistan in which they k**led several women and children. Afghan investigators and witnesses said, after the 2010 attack, that U.S. forces dug the bullets out of the body of at least one pregnant Afghan woman they had shot.

Anwar al-Awlaki was an influential extremist Islamist with connections to al-Qaeda, for which he was accused of recruiting. Anwar reportedly consulted with and influenced the militants involved in several terror attacks, including three of the 9/11 hijackers; the Fort Hood shooter, Nidal Hasan; and the so-called underwear bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. His propaganda was also credited with radicalizing the Tsarnaev brothers, who carried out the Boston Marathon bombing.

It is unclear whether the k*****g of Anwar al-Awlaki's daughter was intentional or accidental. President Trump campaigned on a pledge to go after not only extremist Islamist militants but also members of their families.

The intentional k*****g of civilian family members of combatants is a war crime under international law.

Reporting on the raid has been sloppy. It took two days for most major media outlets to acknowledge that U.S. forces had k**led the 8-year-old girl, although Arabic media sources reported the incident hours after it took place. American reporters for the most part uncritically echoed what anonymous U.S. government officials had told them.

Many of the stories immediately published after the raid on January 29 reflected positively on an operation that allegedly led to the deaths al-Qaeda leaders. Headlines emphasized that one U.S. commando lost his life but made no mention of the civilian casualties.

Buried in a little-noticed earlier report by Reuters, Nasser spoke of Nawar's death. He lamented, "Why k**l children? This is the new [U.S.] administration — it's very sad, a big crime."

Al-Qaeda is already using the latest attack in Yemen for propaganda purposes. In a statement quoted by NBC News, operatives in the Arabian Peninsula condemned the SEALs for shooting women and children "in cold blood," and accused them of having "no human values." The extremist group has been expanding rapidly in Yemen, where the U.S. has carried out a covert drone war since 2002.

JSOC, which carried out the disastrous raid, is notorious for overseeing, along with the CIA, the covert drone assassination program. In Yemen, hundreds of people have been k**led by U.S. drones, including civilians at weddings and funerals. A United Nations report found that from mid-2014 to mid-2015, more civilians were k**led in U.S. drone strikes than al-Qaeda militants.

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Feb 1, 2017 00:37:50   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Started reading that earlier today. An said no I'm gonna be a repuke turn blind eye. Sounded like it was goin be to sad

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Feb 1, 2017 01:10:05   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Like this was the first military adventure where there was a civilian casualty.
It's sad but come on, let's not forget B******i jus sayin

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Feb 1, 2017 01:14:32   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
soba1 wrote:
Like this was the first military adventure where there was a civilian casualty.
It's sad but come on, let's not forget B******i jus sayin


WTF does B******i have to do with this, or even compare?

Soba, you have lost it. What a stupid mindless comment. Think, man. THINK!

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Feb 1, 2017 01:16:25   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Keenan wrote:
WTF does B******i have to do with this, or even compare?

Soba, you have lost it. What a stupid comment.


No I didn't just stating facts that there are mistakes when it comes to war. There are always casualties from friendly fire.
I'm sure others will chime in on B******i. But of course I'm sure you knew it.
Remember glass houses and stones St. Keenan.

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Feb 1, 2017 01:19:08   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
soba1 wrote:
No I didn't just stating facts that there are mistakes when it comes to war. There are always casualties from friendly fire.
I'm sure others will chime in on B******i. But of course I'm sure you knew it.
Remember glass houses and stones St. Keenan.


Soba, try making a logical, coherent argument, if you can. Mindless retorts like "Remember B******i" in response to something that has no connection and no comparison, just makes you sound incapable of reasoning.

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Feb 1, 2017 01:22:35   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Keenan wrote:
Soba, try making a logical, coherent argument, if you can. Mindless retorts like "Remember B******i" in response to something that has no connection and no comparison, just makes you sound incapable of reasoning.


U know I just did, why don't u rebut my statement by proving there were no civilian casualties of war under the Obama Admin.
All u can ever do is insult. I will await your factual rebuttal.

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Feb 1, 2017 01:25:11   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
soba1 wrote:
U know I just did, why don't u rebut my statement by proving there were no civilian casualties of war under the Obama Admin.
All u can ever do is insult. I will await your factual rebuttal.


huh?

Ok, I give up trying to have a rational conversation with you. Putting words in my mouth is called a Straw Man. Changing the subject is a non-sequitur. You don't know how to make a valid, logical argument, do you?

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Feb 1, 2017 01:29:40   #
btbg
 
Keenan wrote:
The victim was the third member of her Yemeni-American family to be k**led by the U.S.

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/nawar_al_awlaki.jpg

http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/nawar-anwar-al-awlaki-k**led-us-trump-raid-yemen-civilians

The first military raid carried out under the administration of President Donald Trump was a disaster, U.S. officials acknowledge. According to a Yemeni politician, it was a massacre of women and children.

On Sunday, January 29, Secret Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) forces carried out a raid in southern Yemen — Trump's first clandestine operation. An unnamed senior military official told NBC News, "Almost everything went wrong." Officials acknowledged that several civilians were k**led, along with members of al-Qaeda.

Among the victims was an 8-year-old girl named Nawar al-Awlaki, the daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen and extremist propagandist with links to al-Qaeda who was assassinated in a drone strike in Yemen in 2011. President Obama personally authorized the k*****g of Anwar al-Awlaki, without trial. Two weeks after his death, another U.S. drone strike k**led Anwar's son, 16-year-old U.S. citizen Abdulrahman al-Awlaki. Unlike his father, Abdulrahman did not have any links to al-Qaeda.

Nawar, the latest civilian victim of U.S. violence in the Middle East, was Abdulrahman's sister. She is at least the third member of the al-Awlaki family to be k**led by the U.S.


Nawar was not the only innocent victim of President Trump's first raid (which, despite earlier media reports to the contrary, was approved by Trump, not Obama). According to her grandfather, Nasser al-Awlaki, a politician who previously served as Yemen's agriculture minister, U.S. SEALs k**led even more civilians. Nasser spoke with Yemeni sources to get to the bottom of what happened during the raid. He told NBC News that Nawar was sitting in a house with her mother when she was suddenly shot in the neck. She died after suffering for two hours.

"Other children in the same house were k**led," Nasser said.

After the raid on this house, the SEALs "entered another house and k**led everybody in it, including all the women," Nasser continued. Then, "They burned the house."

The U.S. government disputes this account. While conceding that some civilians were k**led, U.S. officials claimed some of the women were actually militants who fired at the SEALs.

The exact circumstances around the k*****g vary according to the source, as does the death toll. The Pentagon says 14 combatants were k**led, along with "numerous" civilians. Yemeni officials estimate as many as 59 militants and civilians were k**led, Nasser al-Awlaki said.

There is a precedent for U.S. officials lying about secretive raids carried out by Special Operations forces. Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Seymour Hersh wrote an expose claiming the Obama administration lied about the circumstances surrounding the k*****g of al-Qaeda kingpin Osama bin Laden by SEALs (although multiple accounts of the incident contradicted each other in the first place).

Moreover, investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill has probed how U.S. forces tried to cover up a raid in Afghanistan in which they k**led several women and children. Afghan investigators and witnesses said, after the 2010 attack, that U.S. forces dug the bullets out of the body of at least one pregnant Afghan woman they had shot.

Anwar al-Awlaki was an influential extremist Islamist with connections to al-Qaeda, for which he was accused of recruiting. Anwar reportedly consulted with and influenced the militants involved in several terror attacks, including three of the 9/11 hijackers; the Fort Hood shooter, Nidal Hasan; and the so-called underwear bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. His propaganda was also credited with radicalizing the Tsarnaev brothers, who carried out the Boston Marathon bombing.

It is unclear whether the k*****g of Anwar al-Awlaki's daughter was intentional or accidental. President Trump campaigned on a pledge to go after not only extremist Islamist militants but also members of their families.

The intentional k*****g of civilian family members of combatants is a war crime under international law.

Reporting on the raid has been sloppy. It took two days for most major media outlets to acknowledge that U.S. forces had k**led the 8-year-old girl, although Arabic media sources reported the incident hours after it took place. American reporters for the most part uncritically echoed what anonymous U.S. government officials had told them.

Many of the stories immediately published after the raid on January 29 reflected positively on an operation that allegedly led to the deaths al-Qaeda leaders. Headlines emphasized that one U.S. commando lost his life but made no mention of the civilian casualties.

Buried in a little-noticed earlier report by Reuters, Nasser spoke of Nawar's death. He lamented, "Why k**l children? This is the new [U.S.] administration — it's very sad, a big crime."

Al-Qaeda is already using the latest attack in Yemen for propaganda purposes. In a statement quoted by NBC News, operatives in the Arabian Peninsula condemned the SEALs for shooting women and children "in cold blood," and accused them of having "no human values." The extremist group has been expanding rapidly in Yemen, where the U.S. has carried out a covert drone war since 2002.

JSOC, which carried out the disastrous raid, is notorious for overseeing, along with the CIA, the covert drone assassination program. In Yemen, hundreds of people have been k**led by U.S. drones, including civilians at weddings and funerals. A United Nations report found that from mid-2014 to mid-2015, more civilians were k**led in U.S. drone strikes than al-Qaeda militants.
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Why are you blaming Trump. According to reports that raid was months in the planning. That means it was planned during the Obama administration. All Trump did was sign off on going ahead with the plans that were already made.

Lots of problems with the raid, but it was planned during the previous administration.

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Feb 1, 2017 01:34:54   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Keenan wrote:
huh?

Ok, I give up trying to have a rational conversation with you. Something is wrong with your brain.


Face it u have no counter argument. I clearly stated my position, upurposely ignored.
You are a master at evading when you cannot defend your position to someone's counter argument.
So again u are so eager to show President Trumps blunder.
All I asked u to do was prove there were no civilian casualties no friendly fire casualties during any military action
under Obama.

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Feb 1, 2017 01:37:34   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
btbg wrote:
Why are you blaming Trump. According to reports that raid was months in the planning. That means it was planned during the Obama administration. All Trump did was sign off on going ahead with the plans that were already made.

Lots of problems with the raid, but it was planned during the previous administration.


I don't see anywhere where it says it was "months in the planning", so you appear to have made that part up.

The intentional k*****g of civilian family members of combatants is a war crime under international law. Whoever is president and authorized the operation at the time bears responsibility. Instead of trying to shift blame, how about acknowledging that this should not be acceptable regardless of who is president?"

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Feb 1, 2017 01:39:29   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
soba1 wrote:
Face it u have no counter argument. I clearly stated my position, upurposely ignored.
You are a master at evading when you cannot defend your position to someone's counter argument.
So again u are so eager to show President Trumps blunder.
All I asked u to do was prove there were no civilian casualties no friendly fire casualties during any military action
under Obama.


Soba, I've had it with you. You are way to irrational and frustrating for me to try to have a coherent conversation with lately. Something has happened to your thought processes. You constantly put words in my mouth, ignore my questions, ignore my points, and subject shift.

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Feb 1, 2017 01:44:29   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
soba1 wrote:
Like this was the first military adventure where there was a civilian casualty.
It's sad but come on, let's not forget B******i jus sayin


Let's not forget



Jus say'n
Jus say'n...

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Feb 1, 2017 01:47:06   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
btbg wrote:
Why are you blaming Trump. According to reports that raid was months in the planning. That means it was planned during the Obama administration. All Trump did was sign off on going ahead with the plans that were already made.

Lots of problems with the raid, but it was planned during the previous administration.


They went off inundated reports. How dumb is the pee boi

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Feb 1, 2017 01:49:38   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
soba1 wrote:
No I didn't just stating facts that there are mistakes when it comes to war. There are always casualties from friendly fire.
I'm sure others will chime in on B******i. But of course I'm sure you knew it.
Remember glass houses and stones St. Keenan.


Lying facts from the right got us to this



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