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Jan 29, 2017 18:55:07   #
IBM
 
mikeroetex wrote:
IBM, you clearly don't know what you're talking about and are just guessing. Do you even have a Nikon? Read the manual if you have one, if not, the pdf manual is online at Nikon USA.


I see where I was wrong I been calling the exposer locked , my thinking is back wards , all these years , I'm taking exposer for what I see as it is focus what I see you don't see the exposer until you see the picture. Live and learn so I mostly shoot continues focus and continues exposure. A that is mostly spray and pray ,

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Jan 29, 2017 18:57:47   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
IBM wrote:
I see where I was wrong I been calling the exposer locked , my thinking is back wards , all these years , I'm taking exposer for what I see as it is focus what I see you don't see the exposer until you see the picture. Live and learn so I mostly shoot continues focus and continues exposure. A that is mostly spray and pray ,


Honest mistake. Often happens. No worries. But that is exposure, not exposer -

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Jan 29, 2017 22:41:47   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
murphle wrote:
Hi, I've been using BBF on my D750 for a few months now and I've become quite accustomed to it. My question is.... well... trying to figure how to word this because I could be all wrong.

Clearly I can press the AE lock button (BBF) and then recompose and shot. How about metering and recomposing the shot? I mean, I'm using the AE lock button for focus.... how may I lock exposure?

Oh geez!


Probably the easiest thing to do is just make mental note of the exposure settings, switch the camera to manual mode and set them yourself. That should give the same result as using AE Lock.

I don't have a D750, am a bit surprised it doesn't have separate buttons for AF and AE Lock, like my Canon cameras do. Canon implemented the separate button for AF back in 2007, with the 40D.

But those of us who used a vertical/battery grips on our cameras still had to use the AE Lock button for AF and switch to manual, as described, with our 40D and 50D, because they didn't get around to updating the grip with the button until the 7D and 60D in 2009/2010.

Earlier Canon models had a Custom Function that could be set so that AE Lock was performed on every shot (with half-press of the shutter release button, when using BBF)... but that wasn't good to have set all the time. There are too many situations where AE Lock will cause incorrect exposure. Rather than going into the menu to change that Custom Function when I wanted AE Lock, so I just got in the habit of switching to manual mode, as described above.

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Jan 30, 2017 00:21:01   #
IBM
 
murphle wrote:
I usually shoot in aperture priority but also use manual..... let me ask this. When utilizing BBF, it removes focus from the shutter button. What then is the shutter button doing if you press it halfway? It's reading light, right?


Pushing the shutter in that case , there is no half push , you push it when you want to snap a picture, or push and hold to take as many shots of subject as you can get and don't forget your holding the BB down at same time trying to keep target in focus , it is easy to do as your not pushing one at a time , your holding thumb down on the BB , and holding index down on shutter , it's easer than patting your head
And rubbing your stomach with separate hands , try it you will never look back h

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Jan 30, 2017 07:27:38   #
Jim Bob
 
murphle wrote:
Hi, I've been using BBF on my D750 for a few months now and I've become quite accustomed to it. My question is.... well... trying to figure how to word this because I could be all wrong.

Clearly I can press the AE lock button (BBF) and then recompose and shot. How about metering and recomposing the shot? I mean, I'm using the AE lock button for focus.... how may I lock exposure?

Oh geez!


Convenient use of that feature is forfeited when you use BBF.

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Jan 30, 2017 13:01:09   #
IBM
 
Jim Bob wrote:
Convenient use of that feature is forfeited when you use BBF.


Can someone explain why thay would want to lock exposer, when targeting a bird on the wing .that is what happens to me a lot a few years ago ,before I came across the BBF .I was using the shutter button for focus , I can't count the times I was on a flying bird and pushed the shutter and nothing happened , I couldn't take the picture because the focus wasn't perfect ,and the shutter locked up on me ,by the time it cleared it was to late . The bird was to far out , now with BBF on and camera set for continues focus ,and only single black dot spot metering . For all my shooting no mater what it's always set that way

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Jan 30, 2017 18:33:50   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
IBM wrote:
Can someone explain why thay would want to lock exposer, when targeting a bird on the wing .that is what happens to me a lot a few years ago ,before I came across the BBF .I was using the shutter button for focus , I can't count the times I was on a flying bird and pushed the shutter and nothing happened , I couldn't take the picture because the focus wasn't perfect ,and the shutter locked up on me ,by the time it cleared it was to late . The bird was to far out , now with BBF on and camera set for continues focus ,and only single black dot spot metering . For all my shooting no mater what it's always set that way
Can someone explain why thay would want to lock e... (show quote)


I think this camera may have a menu setting that can set the function of the shutter button to expose whether the subject is in focus or not. You can look at the comments in this link which is to a Fred Miranda site

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Jan 30, 2017 20:38:05   #
Bunkershot Loc: Central Florida
 
steveg48 wrote:
Shoot in manual and the exposure will be locked


Could not have said it better myself Steve...

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Jan 30, 2017 20:59:33   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
Bunkershot wrote:
Could not have said it better myself Steve...

the question is:
where in the frame will the exposure be located, not the focus. but the exposure?

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Jan 31, 2017 13:17:50   #
Bunkershot Loc: Central Florida
 
oldtigger wrote:
the question is:
where in the frame will the exposure be located, not the focus. but the exposure?

Setting exposure in Manual Mode is not like using a focus point for the focus. Normally you will point the camera at your subject and set the exposure in the viewfinder. You can recompose at that point and the exposure will not change from where you set it. Take a look at your camera manual. You should find some discussion about Metering Modes, e.g. Spot, Matrix and Center Weighted. Unless I'm doing a closeup of a flower blossom, where I use Spot Metering, I usually go with Matrix Metering across the board. Hope this helps...

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Feb 1, 2017 10:39:09   #
HelleGuy Loc: Boston
 
I set my exposure lock to hold when I half press shutter. Works well for me. Hope this helps.

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Feb 1, 2017 13:13:28   #
IBM
 
HelleGuy wrote:
I set my exposure lock to hold when I half press shutter. Works well for me. Hope this helps.


How is that working for you , on BIF as there changing position ever wing flap , I use cf on every thing , but I also use BBF, on everything
It's the best for both worlds .if it's sitting on a stump not flying I just lift my thumb and take as many in focus snaps as I want, if it's flying I
Just hold my thumb down and take as many snaps or spray and pray as I want . Try that by locking your exposer every shot , it never worked for me , ??

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Feb 1, 2017 14:18:08   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
murphle wrote:
Hi, I've been using BBF on my D750 for a few months now and I've become quite accustomed to it. My question is.... well... trying to figure how to word this because I could be all wrong.

Clearly I can press the AE lock button (BBF) and then recompose and shot. How about metering and recomposing the shot? I mean, I'm using the AE lock button for focus.... how may I lock exposure?

Oh geez!


One of the main reasons to use BBF is to be able to set the autofocus and the exposure separately. So, lets say I am shooting a waterfall with dark mountains. I cannot focus accurately on moving water so I move my focus indicator just to the side of the running water, which will then be on the dark mountain, and I press my BBF to set focus. What I need to do now, however, is to set my exposure on the brightest part of the moving water in order to get a correct exposure for this shot. BBF sets and leaves the focus set unless I hit it again, which I do not do in this case. What I do is move my autofocus indicator button (in shutter mode this button connects auto focus and exposure), which is set separately from auto focus in BBF, to the brightest part of the moving water and the exposure will be automatically corrected. At this point I might take a test shot to see if the exposure works and perhaps take the exposure down a stop or two if it is too bright. So, you don't really need to have a separate exposure button with BBF, at least not in this type of situation.

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Feb 1, 2017 22:53:21   #
IBM
 
via the lens wrote:
One of the main reasons to use BBF is to be able to set the autofocus and the exposure separately. So, lets say I am shooting a waterfall with dark mountains. I cannot focus accurately on moving water so I move my focus indicator just to the side of the running water, which will then be on the dark mountain, and I press my BBF to set focus. What I need to do now, however, is to set my exposure on the brightest part of the moving water in order to get a correct exposure for this shot. BBF sets and leaves the focus set unless I hit it again, which I do not do in this case. What I do is move my autofocus indicator button (in shutter mode this button connects auto focus and exposure), which is set separately from auto focus in BBF, to the brightest part of the moving water and the exposure will be automatically corrected. At this point I might take a test shot to see if the exposure works and perhaps take the exposure down a stop or two if it is too bright. So, you don't really need to have a separate exposure button with BBF, at least not in this type of situation.
One of the main reasons to use BBF is to be able t... (show quote)


You are making it more complicated than it needs to be just set BBF with spot metering , take shot , if not right , take another shot put
Spot on a lighter patch or a darker patch , your not going to get a perfect whit spot and a perfect dark spot and a perfect middle tone
Unless you burn and Dodge, you can just make a few adjustments and pic the one you feel is the best , you can play around in photo shop if your good at that sort of thing .

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Feb 2, 2017 09:48:39   #
HelleGuy Loc: Boston
 
IBM wrote:
How is that working for you , on BIF as there changing position ever wing flap , I use cf on every thing , but I also use BBF, on everything
It's the best for both worlds .if it's sitting on a stump not flying I just lift my thumb and take as many in focus snaps as I want, if it's flying I
Just hold my thumb down and take as many snaps or spray and pray as I want . Try that by locking your exposer every shot , it never worked for me , ??


I don't take BIF pics.. Poster was looking for ideas and I gave him one. Your set up sounds like it works and that's great. I glad you had some input on the subject.

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