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Jan 27, 2017 17:49:14   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
I was browsing on line looking for photography courses. I found a site that listed four photography schools in Massachusetts. When I checked into them I discovered that three of the four schools have shut their doors !!
As Trump would say - 'So sad'.

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Jan 27, 2017 17:55:25   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
repleo wrote:
I was browsing on line looking for photography courses. I found a site that listed four photography schools in Massachusetts. When I checked into them I discovered that three of the four schools have shut their doors !!
As Trump would say - 'So sad'.


Which schools?

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Jan 27, 2017 19:01:41   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
Which schools?


New England Institute of Art; Center for Digital Imaging Arts and Hallmark Institute of Photography.

Montserrat College of Art was the fourth one and that appears to be still going strong.

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Jan 28, 2017 07:36:43   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
repleo wrote:
I was browsing on line looking for photography courses. I found a site that listed four photography schools in Massachusetts. When I checked into them I discovered that three of the four schools have shut their doors !!
As Trump would say - 'So sad'.


It takes a lot of profit to keep any business running. Four photography schools in one state might have been three too many. How many people are willing to hand out enough money to keep a school and it's people humming along? Apparently, not enough. Online schools have virtually no overhead, and people can sign up from anywhere in the world - no travel expense.

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Jan 28, 2017 08:40:30   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
Jerry, It had more to do with the recent Gainful Employment initiatives that colleges must meet in order to receive federal student grants and loans. Colleges now have to gather data on graduates earnings versus their loan repayments. If the repayments are above a certain ratio, the colleges loose their ability to qualify for federal student funding. These requirements have hit a large number of 'for profit' schools across the board, but 75% for photography schools in MA seems to be a particularly hard hit. This dilemna is probably more a reflection of low earnings for photographers than high tuition fees.

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Jan 28, 2017 10:13:30   #
cthahn
 
They are closing for a reason. No interest. Too many think that purchasing an expensive camera and a long zoom lens will make you a photographer and there is nothing to learn.

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Jan 28, 2017 11:14:47   #
StaneeRae Loc: Lincroft, NJ USA
 
Brooks Institute closed last fall.
https://petapixel.com/2016/08/13/brooks-institute-closes-70-years-photo-education/

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Jan 28, 2017 11:20:32   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
repleo wrote:
Jerry, It had more to do with the recent Gainful Employment initiatives that colleges must meet in order to receive federal student grants and loans. Colleges now have to gather data on graduates earnings versus their loan repayments. If the repayments are above a certain ratio, the colleges loose their ability to qualify for federal student funding. These requirements have hit a large number of 'for profit' schools across the board, but 75% for photography schools in MA seems to be a particularly hard hit. This dilemna is probably more a reflection of low earnings for photographers than high tuition fees.
Jerry, It had more to do with the recent Gainful E... (show quote)


You can make a living delivering pizza or being a bartender, what's the problem? This isn't a new phenomenon in the arts.

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Jan 28, 2017 11:29:43   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
repleo wrote:
I was browsing on line looking for photography courses. I found a site that listed four photography schools in Massachusetts. When I checked into them I discovered that three of the four schools have shut their doors !!
As Trump would say - 'So sad'.


Maybe we'll get a whole new set of new schools springing up. I can see it now: "The Trump Photography Academy - Where the camera never lies". Advanced Photoshop skills will be the common core of the course.

Naturally photo journalism will not be offered or even tolerated for ethical reasons, but glamor and boudoir photography will be encouraged, as will real estate photograhy for those that wish to graduate with distinction.

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Jan 28, 2017 11:44:34   #
Dlevon Loc: New Jersey
 
Peterff wrote:
Maybe we'll get a whole new set of new schools springing up. I can see it now: "The Trump Photography Academy - Where the camera never lies". Advanced Photoshop skills will be the common core of the course.

Naturally photo journalism will not be offered or even tolerated for ethical reasons, but glamor and boudoir photography will be encouraged, as will real estate photograhy for those that wish to graduate with distinction.



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Jan 28, 2017 12:05:55   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
Peterff wrote:
...Naturally photo journalism will not be offered or even tolerated for ethical reasons, but...


Photo journalism hardly exists anymore and it's due to newspapers cutting back on their budgets; there are very few reporters much less photographers. Even television news is getting into the act. A while back I saw a television news reporter standing in front of a video camera on a tripod and there was no one behind the camera. After she finished with her "report" she walked over and turned off the camera and started breaking down her equipment (which didn't take long).

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Jan 28, 2017 14:03:36   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
photoman022 wrote:
Photo journalism hardly exists anymore and it's due to newspapers cutting back on their budgets; there are very few reporters much less photographers. Even television news is getting into the act. A while back I saw a television news reporter standing in front of a video camera on a tripod and there was no one behind the camera. After she finished with her "report" she walked over and turned off the camera and started breaking down her equipment (which didn't take long).


Could also be true of any kind of journalism before long, and I don't mean that as a partisan statement. People of all political convictions should have access to good quality, reliable and impartial reporting. Newspapers are cutting back because of market changes and because they have to for economic reasons. They simply are not getting the advertising revenue, the money is going to companies like Google and Facebook. To paraphrase the Apollo 13 situation: "Hello democracy, we have a problem!"

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Jan 28, 2017 15:19:19   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
you dont need photography school buy a good camera and good lens and thats all u need. just press the little button and move on to the next pic

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Jan 28, 2017 15:27:59   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
bdk wrote:
you don't need photography school buy a good camera and good lens and thats all u need. just press the little button and move on to the next pic


Excuse me? That may be true if you know what you are doing, but for others a little education can be a very valuable thing to have. It's a little like being able to use the English language correctly, including good grammar. No wonder America is in the state that it is in compared with the rest of the world, and why much of the rest of the world laughs at us.

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Jan 28, 2017 15:37:43   #
wsa111 Loc: Goose Creek, South Carolina
 
We do make good missiles & bombs.

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