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Jan 27, 2017 15:57:46   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
I was just trying to fix a jpeg and I found out it can be done by importing it as camera raw. No one seems to mention that you can open jpegs in camera raw in photoshop. Just wondering why there is so much talk about shooting raw when you can do the same opening a jpeg in camera raw. The only drawback it seems is after you work the pic in camera raw it becomes a .dng or a .psd which you have to use "save as" to get a jpeg.

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Jan 27, 2017 16:04:16   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
drklrd wrote:
I was just trying to fix a jpeg and I found out it can be done by importing it as camera raw. No one seems to mention that you can open jpegs in camera raw in photoshop. Just wondering why there is so much talk about shooting raw when you can do the same opening a jpeg in camera raw. The only drawback it seems is after you work the pic in camera raw it becomes a .dng or a .psd which you have to use "save as" to get a jpeg.


Camera RAW will import and edit jpeg but they still only have the data of the jpeg, not the full data of an original RAW file.

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Jan 27, 2017 16:07:24   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
When you shoot in jpeg mode, you are only using part of what your camera is capable of.

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Jan 27, 2017 16:23:44   #
Fred Harwood Loc: Sheffield, Mass.
 
I use raw to open jpegs that need extra care and manipulation. I also set the raw to 16-bit, which helps reduce banding and other color distresses when making severe corrections.

Some years ago, I started shooting only raw, 14-bit in camera, and processing in 16-bit. That's the only way to get everything the camera can give. Of course, a bad shot will most always be a bad shot, but when important, being able to improve a jpeg in raw helps.

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Jan 27, 2017 16:24:55   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
drklrd wrote:
I was just trying to fix a jpeg and I found out it can be done by importing it as camera raw. No one seems to mention that you can open jpegs in camera raw in photoshop. Just wondering why there is so much talk about shooting raw when you can do the same opening a jpeg in camera raw. The only drawback it seems is after you work the pic in camera raw it becomes a .dng or a .psd which you have to use "save as" to get a jpeg.


You are misunderstanding the process. you may import a jpeg photo into camera raw, but you are still importing a jpeg photo, which does not have the amount of data that a raw photo would have. if you are going to shoot photos and need to quickly upload them to social media, or you do not want to go through the process of post processing, then shoot jpeg and let the camera process the photo for you. but, if you are exert the effort of post processing, shoot raw.

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Jan 27, 2017 16:33:43   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
Jpegs have already been manipulated by algorithms in your camera affected by your settings. ACR can certainly improve the end result, but you are working with a lot less info than a raw file offers.

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Jan 27, 2017 17:56:59   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
drklrd wrote:
I was just trying to fix a jpeg and I found out it can be done by importing it as camera raw. No one seems to mention that you can open jpegs in camera raw in photoshop. Just wondering why there is so much talk about shooting raw when you can do the same opening a jpeg in camera raw. The only drawback it seems is after you work the pic in camera raw it becomes a .dng or a .psd which you have to use "save as" to get a jpeg.


In Photoshop CC, there is a Camera Raw filter that is exactly like the ACR interface, and you can place your adjustments on a separate layer. DNG generated from a raw file is for ACR, but the file can be exported as a psd or dng file with edits intact. If you export as a DNG I think PS will still regarded it as a raw file. PSDs will be opened by Photoshop.

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Jan 28, 2017 00:49:31   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
Well I thank you all for letting me know this. They do not tell all in college. I have an audio video degree and they covered a lot of computer editing even in Adobe Photoshop using stills to animated them but they glossed over the real stuff apparently. Thanks

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Jan 28, 2017 01:01:08   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
drklrd wrote:
Well I thank you all for letting me know this. They do not tell all in college. I have an audio video degree and they covered a lot of computer editing even in Adobe Photoshop using stills to animated them but they glossed over the real stuff apparently. Thanks


Can you ask for some of your money back? You was robbed! 🤢

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Jan 28, 2017 07:01:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
drklrd wrote:
I was just trying to fix a jpeg and I found out it can be done by importing it as camera raw. No one seems to mention that you can open jpegs in camera raw in photoshop. Just wondering why there is so much talk about shooting raw when you can do the same opening a jpeg in camera raw. The only drawback it seems is after you work the pic in camera raw it becomes a .dng or a .psd which you have to use "save as" to get a jpeg.


As others have indicated, although it opens in Camera Raw, it's not actually raw.

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Jan 28, 2017 07:22:23   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
drklrd wrote:
I was just trying to fix a jpeg and I found out it can be done by importing it as camera raw. No one seems to mention that you can open jpegs in camera raw in photoshop. Just wondering why there is so much talk about shooting raw when you can do the same opening a jpeg in camera raw. The only drawback it seems is after you work the pic in camera raw it becomes a .dng or a .psd which you have to use "save as" to get a jpeg.


In LR The Develop Module is ACR in a better format and easier to work with. Yes I have processed JPEGs in LR using the develop module

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Jan 28, 2017 08:47:00   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Peterff wrote:
Can you ask for some of your money back? You was robbed! 🤢


Actually you was RAWED.

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Jan 28, 2017 09:09:45   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
There are many professionals shooting JPEG images. One of the reasons is saving space in their media cards and the other is they spend less time at the computer.
Modern JPEG images are superb in quality and in my case some of my best enlargements have come from JPEG files.
I also shoot RAW although not as often as I used to. One of the problems I see here is that a very large RAW file has to be compressed to JPEG for a professional lab to work on it. I am completely sure many megapixels will be lost during that process. The same goes with a wide color space like ProPhoto compressed to sRGB.
As I said, modern JPEG are of very good quality when shooting Large-Fine files and in my case I have not found any issues changing WB or other parameters during editing.
I am perfectly comfortable when shooting JPEG files.

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Jan 28, 2017 10:03:22   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
camerapapi wrote:
There are many professionals shooting JPEG images. One of the reasons is saving space in their media cards and the other is they spend less time at the computer.
Modern JPEG images are superb in quality and in my case some of my best enlargements have come from JPEG files.
I also shoot RAW although not as often as I used to. One of the problems I see here is that a very large RAW file has to be compressed to JPEG for a professional lab to work on it. I am completely sure many megapixels will be lost during that process. The same goes with a wide color space like ProPhoto compressed to sRGB.
As I said, modern JPEG are of very good quality when shooting Large-Fine files and in my case I have not found any issues changing WB or other parameters during editing.
I am perfectly comfortable when shooting JPEG files.
There are many professionals shooting JPEG images.... (show quote)


I totally agree. I shoot JPEG most of the time and pp with Luminar. I am amazed at the amount of pp I can do on a JPEG image. I only shoot RAW when I'm working on a landscape/nature/wildlife shot.

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Jan 28, 2017 10:04:42   #
cthahn
 
You have a misconception about RAW and JPEG. Do some reading and understand the two. You can not just take and JPEG and make it into a RA

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