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Jan 27, 2017 08:04:23   #
Millismote Loc: Massachusetts
 
A few days ago someone posted about a program that would enlarge photos with a minimum loss of resolution. I would search for it but I can't remember either the author or the title of the post. Can anyone help me out.

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Jan 27, 2017 08:06:16   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Millismote wrote:
A few days ago someone posted about a program that would enlarge photos with a minimum loss of resolution. I would search for it but I can't remember either the author or the title of the post. Can anyone help me out.


I think I posted that, and I hope one of these links works for you.

http://a-sharper-scaling.com/
http://www.benvista.com/photozoomclassic
https://www.on1.com/apps/resize9/

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Jan 27, 2017 08:06:53   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
On1 Resize.

https://www.on1.com/products/resize10/?gclid=Cj0KEQiA_KvEBRCtzNil4-KR-LIBEiQAmgekF5Z6yH_bet447rEeUM2GDzgdzZCHnEjR5gsqisIy3WwaAlPB8P8HAQ

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Jan 27, 2017 08:18:22   #
SqBear Loc: Kansas, (South Central)
 
Although I'm sure these programs are good and could be, should be looked into as the price is not too bad, at least on one of the brands.

However, in PS CS6 using RAW to open a photo file, there is a capability to increase the photo with very little if any loss up to 50% of the original.
I find this satisfactory in most of my photos.

Might look into your RAW processing to see if this fits your needs millismote.

Dave

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Jan 27, 2017 08:31:09   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
SqBear wrote:
Although I'm sure these programs are good and could be, should be looked into as the price is not too bad, at least on one of the brands.

However, in PS CS6 using RAW to open a photo file, there is a capability to increase the photo with very little if any loss up to 50% of the original.
I find this satisfactory in most of my photos.

Might look into your RAW processing to see if this fits your needs millismote.

Dave


You can also enlarge a file 10% at a time, again and again, until you get close to the desired size. That seems to preserve most of the detail, almost as much as using On1 Resize (which used to be called Genuine Fractals a decade ago when I used it in a lab).

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Jan 27, 2017 08:41:47   #
SqBear Loc: Kansas, (South Central)
 
burkphoto wrote:
You can also enlarge a file 10% at a time, again and again, until you get close to the desired size. That seems to preserve most of the detail, almost as much as using On1 Resize (which used to be called Genuine Fractals a decade ago when I used it in a lab).


Do you mean if I enlarge 25% in RAW, how does one enlarge the enlarged photo again at 25%?
When I save the file it saves it to JPG, then RAW cannot be opened from JPG?

Teach me please.

Thanks
Dave

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Jan 27, 2017 10:52:52   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
SqBear wrote:
Do you mean if I enlarge 25% in RAW, how does one enlarge the enlarged photo again at 25%?
When I save the file it saves it to JPG, then RAW cannot be opened from JPG?

Teach me please.

Thanks
Dave


Open the original raw file. Do all your image quality adjustments (exposure, brightness, highlights, shadows, color balance, hue, saturation, etc.) at the original size (except for sharpening, which is ALWAYS done last, before printing or distribution). Once it looks good, convert it to a .PSD or a 16-bit TIFF. Resize the PSD or TIFF. Then convert to 8-bits for JPEG output, or whatever file format you need. Sharpen the image after sizing it for its ultimate purpose. If you enlarge repeatedly in 10% increments as a TIFF or PSD, you will not lose data or harm the file in any way. Only make a JPEG when the final sizing and sharpening for the end use are complete. Save JPEGs only once.

Raw files themselves cannot be altered — ever. The original raw data is always left intact. You export or save *copies* in some other file format. When you work on a raw file, you are really just entering commands into a sort of database, or stuffing commands into a "sidecar" file of some sort. Any changes you define are only written to disc when you EXPORT or SAVE AS. You can always go back to the original, untouched raw data and export different sets of changes as new PSD or TIFF files...

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Jan 27, 2017 16:11:07   #
SqBear Loc: Kansas, (South Central)
 
burkphoto wrote:
Open the original raw file. Do all your image quality adjustments (exposure, brightness, highlights, shadows, color balance, hue, saturation, etc.) at the original size (except for sharpening, which is ALWAYS done last, before printing or distribution). Once it looks good, convert it to a .PSD or a 16-bit TIFF. Resize the PSD or TIFF. Then convert to 8-bits for JPEG output, or whatever file format you need. Sharpen the image after sizing it for its ultimate purpose. If you enlarge repeatedly in 10% increments as a TIFF or PSD, you will not lose data or harm the file in any way. Only make a JPEG when the final sizing and sharpening for the end use are complete. Save JPEGs only once.

Raw files themselves cannot be altered — ever. The original raw data is always left intact. You export or save *copies* in some other file format. When you work on a raw file, you are really just entering commands into a sort of database, or stuffing commands into a "sidecar" file of some sort. Any changes you define are only written to disc when you EXPORT or SAVE AS. You can always go back to the original, untouched raw data and export different sets of changes as new PSD or TIFF files...
Open the original raw file. Do all your image qual... (show quote)


Thanks for the added information burkphoto!!
I will certainly try this out!
I thought once you saved as; no matter what except PSD you could not reopen the file in RAW.
Now, i've learned a thing or two!
This is why I spend many hours reading and collecting information from the UHH members!

Thanks again
Dave

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Jan 28, 2017 08:37:50   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 


What does it do? Interpolate pixels?

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Jan 28, 2017 09:52:49   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
CatMarley wrote:
What does it do? Interpolate pixels?


That's a good short answer for it. We used to use its predecessor, Genuine Fractals, in the lab. My large format print crew would take 8MP files up to 24x36 inches... even 40x60 on occasion. At a distance of the diagonal dimension of the print, they looked fine.

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Jan 28, 2017 10:22:19   #
FL Streetrodder
 
burkphoto wrote:
That's a good short answer for it. We used to use its predecessor, Genuine Fractals, in the lab. My large format print crew would take 8MP files up to 24x36 inches... even 40x60 on occasion. At a distance of the diagonal dimension of the print, they looked fine.

Thanks for the information you provided, I will definitely try this procedure.

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Jan 28, 2017 12:43:25   #
whitewolfowner
 
Millismote wrote:
A few days ago someone posted about a program that would enlarge photos with a minimum loss of resolution. I would search for it but I can't remember either the author or the title of the post. Can anyone help me out.



I use photo zoom pro 5; does a nice job.

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Jan 28, 2017 12:46:24   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
CatMarley wrote:
What does it do? Interpolate pixels?


Yes, and so does Sony Clear Image Zoom.

BTW, raw is also an interpolation .....

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Jan 28, 2017 12:48:04   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
burkphoto wrote:
You can also enlarge a file 10% at a time, again and again, until you get close to the desired size. That seems to preserve most of the detail, almost as much as using On1 Resize (which used to be called Genuine Fractals a decade ago when I used it in a lab).



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Jan 28, 2017 15:04:44   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:


I have been using ON 1 Perfect Resize for many years and before that Genuine Fractals which became Perfect Resize.

It allows me to print 40x60 on those rare occasions, and regularly 30x40 and still have excellent results.

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