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Does the Earth "look" old?
Jan 12, 2017 09:46:38   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
This is a good article about how our assumptions shape our conclusions.


http://answersingenesis.org/age-of-the-earth/how-old-does-earth-look/?utm_source=facebook-aig&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=facebook-aig

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Jan 13, 2017 09:36:33   #
CSand Loc: Fayetteville, Georgia
 
Thank you for posting this. Will read it through when I have a quiet moment. Sent to my sister who is of the thought of many- millions of years, etc. I would agree with the earth being much younger. Blessings, Sandy

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Jan 13, 2017 10:28:37   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
No problem, you're welcome

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Jan 13, 2017 12:34:45   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Interesting reading. We frequently get into a discussion about "old earth" vs "new earth." One observation I heard recently is that there was a sort of "mud" period that lasted a very long time. That would actually tie into the statement that before the creation the earth was "formless." I thought that was an interesting comment to hear!

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Jan 19, 2017 11:33:44   #
Abo
 
Golly, I don't need faith to believe in Jesus because his existance has been
proven by historians that use similar verifying principals to the same
principals other scientists use.

The rub is; those "other scientists" date the Earth at over 4 billion years.
I understand how carbon dating works and I believe and agree what the geologists et al say...
and for the same reasons I know that the existence of Jesus Christ is irrefutable!

Jesus is Lord.

Dates are a minor detail.
Instead of arguing about dates, embrace the philosophies of Jesus, it makes us better people.

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Jan 19, 2017 11:47:02   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Abo wrote:
Golly, I don't need faith to believe in Jesus because his existance has been
proven by historians that use similar verifying principals to the same
principals other scientists use.

The rub is; those "other scientists" date the Earth at over 4 billion years.
I understand how carbon dating works and I believe and agree what the geologists et al say...
and for the same reasons I know that the existence of Jesus Christ is irrefutable!

Jesus is Lord.

Dates are a minor detail.
Instead of arguing about dates, embrace the philosophies of Jesus, it makes us better people.
Golly, I don't need faith to believe in Jesus beca... (show quote)


Jesus was very concerned about truth...we should be too. He created all things at a point in time and told us about it.

Either there is truth, or nothing is true and it's all up for grabs.

I'm going with the authority who is the standard of truth and not whatever I feel like.

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Jan 19, 2017 12:06:01   #
Abo
 
rpavich wrote:
Jesus was very concerned about truth...we should be too. He created all things at a point in time and told us about it.

Either there is truth, or nothing is true and it's all up for grabs.

I'm going with the authority who is the standard of truth and not whatever I feel like.


Good for you, and may Jesus be with you.

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Feb 5, 2017 08:40:20   #
StanRP Loc: Ontario Canada
 


Hi,

One of the assumptions is assuming that a translation accurately describes what was originally written.

The years from Adam to the present time is NOT directly given in the bible - it is calculated from the genealogies. This is generally about 6000 years. HOWEVER there is another factor that may extend this to nearly 20,000 years. History was mostly verbal and dating was based on the time of known people or events. and genealogy by known forbears: for example Matthew 1:1

Matt 1:1 THE book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Just adding 4 days to when Adam was created, to get to the beginning is also an assumption;

For example: Starting at Sunday, Monday is the second day, Tuesday is the third day..... etc. So logically the world did not exist before Sunday.

By our own observation, this is not correct, yet this the same logic is used to claim that the universe is only 6000 years old.

In the original: while the second day, third day etc. refer to the first, the first day uses a word that is NOT related to time. The word used in Genesis 1:1 is bereshit, which is a word that is not even related to ‘time’. If the text has wanted to say 'The Beginning' then the Hebrew word 'bereshona' would have been used.

To those who state that our universe is only ~6000 years old, my question is "As Scripture tells us that God cannot lie, how could He create a universe that does?????

Even the scripture telling us that God cannot lie is contrary to a 6000 year old universe:

Titus 1:22 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

How can this "promised before the world began" be true if the universe did not exist before the world was created?

StanRP

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