Had2
Loc: Long Island, NY
Traveling and touring with family sometimes inhibits lugging a DSLR, and it would be nice to be able to minimize the compromise of using a camera with more limited capabilities. A cell phone camera is ok in a pinch, but it is much too limiting.
I would like to see a travel point & shoot that has these features, somewhat in order of preference:
1" to 1.5" sensor
RAW support
moderately fast 25x or greater optical zoom
image stabilization
articulating touch screen
reasonable battery life
built-in WiFi
4k video
Canon has no competing model to the Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100, however, I have not been able to determine why Canon cannot or will not put a zoom lens similar to the one on the PowerShot SX720 HS (although a bit slow), onto something like its G7 X Mark II. There may be technology and price point issues, however, I would think that a small powerful pocket camera would attract a sizeable swath of serious photographers.
The simple solution is to buy the Lumix that you hold up as the benchmark. The only drawback is learning a new menu philosophy. Canon apparently does not think that market is worthy of their products, much like their approach to mirrorless cameras, where their latest product compares well with what the competition was offering many years ago.
Why not call Canon and ask them? Then get back to us and let us know what they said.
Here is their number 866-510-1335
Nosaj
Loc: Sarasota, Florida
Had2 wrote:
Traveling and touring with family sometimes inhibits lugging a DSLR, and it would be nice to be able to minimize the compromise of using a camera with more limited capabilities. A cell phone camera is ok in a pinch, but it is much too limiting.
I would like to see a travel point & shoot that has these features, somewhat in order of preference:
1" to 1.5" sensor
RAW support
moderately fast 25x or greater optical zoom
image stabilization
articulating touch screen
reasonable battery life
built-in WiFi
4k video
Canon has no competing model to the Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100, however, I have not been able to determine why Canon cannot or will not put a zoom lens similar to the one on the PowerShot SX720 HS (although a bit slow), onto something like its G7 X Mark II. There may be technology and price point issues, however, I would think that a small powerful pocket camera would attract a sizeable swath of serious photographers.
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I'm not a dedicated Canon user, but the G3-X seems to comply with some of the specs you list, even though it's not a mirror-less camera. The Panasonic P&S cameras are quite good, as are a few models from other suppliers (Nikon, Sony, Fuji, and Olympus), and the mass market seems to be somewhat saturated at this time. Perhaps there should be a distinction between the standard P&S and the mirror-less ones which have been getting better.
Peterff
Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
Had2 wrote:
Traveling and touring with family sometimes inhibits lugging a DSLR, and it would be nice to be able to minimize the compromise of using a camera with more limited capabilities. A cell phone camera is ok in a pinch, but it is much too limiting.
I would like to see a travel point & shoot that has these features, somewhat in order of preference:
1" to 1.5" sensor
RAW support
moderately fast 25x or greater optical zoom
image stabilization
articulating touch screen
reasonable battery life
built-in WiFi
4k video
Canon has no competing model to the Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100, however, I have not been able to determine why Canon cannot or will not put a zoom lens similar to the one on the PowerShot SX720 HS (although a bit slow), onto something like its G7 X Mark II. There may be technology and price point issues, however, I would think that a small powerful pocket camera would attract a sizeable swath of serious photographers.
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Cannons point and shoot extremely effectively if you know how to use them. The results can be devastating! I will concede that they're not always discrete, can be a little noisy, and can be problematic as carry on baggage.
Had2 wrote:
Traveling and touring with family sometimes inhibits lugging a DSLR, and it would be nice to be able to minimize the compromise of using a camera with more limited capabilities. A cell phone camera is ok in a pinch, but it is much too limiting.
I would like to see a travel point & shoot that has these features, somewhat in order of preference:
1" to 1.5" sensor
RAW support
moderately fast 25x or greater optical zoom
image stabilization
articulating touch screen
reasonable battery life
built-in WiFi
4k video
Canon has no competing model to the Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100, however, I have not been able to determine why Canon cannot or will not put a zoom lens similar to the one on the PowerShot SX720 HS (although a bit slow), onto something like its G7 X Mark II. There may be technology and price point issues, however, I would think that a small powerful pocket camera would attract a sizeable swath of serious photographers.
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I bought a Nikon 83X point and shoot, & it is terrific(in some respects) but its' image processor is just too damned inadequate. It could have been SWELL, but as it is, IT ISN"T!!
johnmowry wrote:
The simple solution is to buy the Lumix that you hold up as the benchmark. The only drawback is learning a new menu philosophy. Canon apparently does not think that market is worthy of their products, much like their approach to mirrorless cameras, where their latest product compares well with what the competition was offering many years ago.
I was on a FAR-OFF photo trip and one of the guys riding around with us, in-the-bush, had a terrific lumix, I was very impressed. Come on now, how terrible could it be to "have to learn to use" such a great camera.?? IT had a helluva lens affixed to it (great ZOOM). RJM
Had2 wrote:
Traveling and touring with family sometimes inhibits lugging a DSLR, and it would be nice to be able to minimize the compromise of using a camera with more limited capabilities. A cell phone camera is ok in a pinch, but it is much too limiting.
I would like to see a travel point & shoot that has these features, somewhat in order of preference:
1" to 1.5" sensor
RAW support
moderately fast 25x or greater optical zoom
image stabilization
articulating touch screen
reasonable battery life
built-in WiFi
4k video
Canon has no competing model to the Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100, however, I have not been able to determine why Canon cannot or will not put a zoom lens similar to the one on the PowerShot SX720 HS (although a bit slow), onto something like its G7 X Mark II. There may be technology and price point issues, however, I would think that a small powerful pocket camera would attract a sizeable swath of serious photographers.
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It is likely that Canon researched that market and in their corporate analysis decided that the time is not right. Like their mirrorless offerings are behind but that has not hurt them same with Nikon. We have no idea why decisions are made the way they are. For Canon look at the EOS decision they made and everyone said it would doom them to oblivion. Rather it gave them a 30 year dominance in the professional market and from that the consumer market .
The bottom line it has to do with their return on investment with the number of units they can sell.
Had2 wrote:
Traveling and touring with family sometimes inhibits lugging a DSLR, and it would be nice to be able to minimize the compromise of using a camera with more limited capabilities. A cell phone camera is ok in a pinch, but it is much too limiting.
I would like to see a travel point & shoot that has these features, somewhat in order of preference:
1" to 1.5" sensor
RAW support
moderately fast 25x or greater optical zoom
image stabilization
articulating touch screen
reasonable battery life
built-in WiFi
4k video
Canon has no competing model to the Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100, however, I have not been able to determine why Canon cannot or will not put a zoom lens similar to the one on the PowerShot SX720 HS (although a bit slow), onto something like its G7 X Mark II. There may be technology and price point issues, however, I would think that a small powerful pocket camera would attract a sizeable swath of serious photographers.
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Had2
Loc: Long Island, NY
I don't see the Lumix as a benchmark by any stretch, just pointing out that a non-camera company besting Canon's in this sector. Canon needs to up its game.
Had2
Loc: Long Island, NY
PixelStan77 wrote:
The bottom line it has to do with their return on investment with the number of units they can sell.
I'm thinking you hit the nail on the head, but it's a damned shame. I think quite a few Canon DLSR owners (of which there are many) would snatch up an "EPS" (Enhanced Point & Shoot) to cover those occasions when portability trumps EOS features. Just sayin'.
Had2 wrote:
Traveling and touring with family sometimes inhibits lugging a DSLR, and it would be nice to be able to minimize the compromise of using a camera with more limited capabilities. A cell phone camera is ok in a pinch, but it is much too limiting.
I would like to see a travel point & shoot that has these features, somewhat in order of preference:
1" to 1.5" sensor
RAW support
moderately fast 25x or greater optical zoom
image stabilization
articulating touch screen
reasonable battery life
built-in WiFi
4k video
Canon has no competing model to the Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100, however, I have not been able to determine why Canon cannot or will not put a zoom lens similar to the one on the PowerShot SX720 HS (although a bit slow), onto something like its G7 X Mark II. There may be technology and price point issues, however, I would think that a small powerful pocket camera would attract a sizeable swath of serious photographers.
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Canon has the SX50! (No WI FI or 4k video)
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
Had2 wrote:
Traveling and touring with family sometimes inhibits lugging a DSLR, and it would be nice to be able to minimize the compromise of using a camera with more limited capabilities. A cell phone camera is ok in a pinch, but it is much too limiting.
I would like to see a travel point & shoot that has these features, somewhat in order of preference:
1" to 1.5" sensor
RAW support
moderately fast 25x or greater optical zoom
image stabilization
articulating touch screen
reasonable battery life
built-in WiFi
4k video
Canon has no competing model to the Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100, however, I have not been able to determine why Canon cannot or will not put a zoom lens similar to the one on the PowerShot SX720 HS (although a bit slow), onto something like its G7 X Mark II. There may be technology and price point issues, however, I would think that a small powerful pocket camera would attract a sizeable swath of serious photographers.
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How are you defining
1" to 1.5" sensor"?
{I've seen the term
1" sensor used, but that term is misleading}
Nosaj wrote:
I'm not a dedicated Canon user, but the G3-X seems to comply with some of the specs you list, even though it's not a mirror-less camera. The Panasonic P&S cameras are quite good, as are a few models from other suppliers (Nikon, Sony, Fuji, and Olympus), and the mass market seems to be somewhat saturated at this time. Perhaps there should be a distinction between the standard P&S and the mirror-less ones which have been getting better.
Actually, the G3X is a mirrorless camera, as it has no mirror. It's just not a MILC. And it has a 1" sensor. I gets generally very good reviews, and it's negatives are rather minor unless one is going to use it for very advanced photography purposes. It's big drawback is lack of an EVF, although you can purchase the Canon add-on EVF for a princely sum.
Peterff wrote:
Cannons point and shoot extremely effectively if you know how to use them. The results can be devastating! I will concede that they're not always discrete, can be a little noisy, and can be problematic as carry on baggage.
And always use the proper size shells on your cannon.
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