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Jan 5, 2017 14:40:00   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Probably still a shade better than you when you learn to use yours.
--Bob


Ansel wrote several books on EBTR and RGBG.

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Jan 5, 2017 14:40:01   #
rcdovala
 
I have been using Landscape Pro for several months. I agree that Landscape Pro does nothing that can't be done directly in Photoshop or Lightroom. However. Landscape Pro has a myriad of presets that provides the photographer options for selecting a mood for a scene. By scanning the presets, the photographer can quickly determine what mood works best for a particular image. There are those that feel that any deviation from what the mood of the scene was at the moment the image was taken is a sin of the highest order. I am not one who believes in strict adherence to the rules. In my opinion, that is the difference between taking an image and making an image. The attached image was actually taken near high noon which resulted in an image that was boring and not very exciting. Landscape Pro helped me change the mood of the image into one that I wanted it to be. If you like it, that's great. But what's more important is that I like it. Thanks for reading this.

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Jan 5, 2017 14:54:55   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Actually, he wrote 5 volumes, originally, that were condensed to 3, but covered the same subject material, The Camera, The Negative, The Print, Natural Light Photography, and Artificial Light Photography. I think the combined texts are now, The Camera, The Negative and Print, and Artificial and Natural Light Photography.

Additionally, other books were published, but not to the extent of instruction that the listed ones were. Those featured more the works of.

Since digital was in its infancy when he passed away, I doubt there is any on your listed topics. If there are, I'd like to read them. Could you please provide some titles?
--Bob

TheDman wrote:
Ansel wrote several books on EBTR and RGBG.

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Jan 5, 2017 15:05:02   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
rcdovala wrote:
I have been using Landscape Pro for several months. I agree that Landscape Pro does nothing that can't be done directly in Photoshop or Lightroom. However. Landscape Pro has a myriad of presets that provides the photographer options for selecting a mood for a scene. By scanning the presets, the photographer can quickly determine what mood works best for a particular image. There are those that feel that any deviation from what the mood of the scene was at the moment the image was taken is a sin of the highest order. I am not one who believes in strict adherence to the rules. In my opinion, that is the difference between taking an image and making an image. The attached image was actually taken near high noon which resulted in an image that was boring and not very exciting. Landscape Pro helped me change the mood of the image into one that I wanted it to be. If you like it, that's great. But what's more important is that I like it. Thanks for reading this.
I have been using Landscape Pro for several months... (show quote)


I have long been an advocate of transforming photographs from a "realistic" rendering to something different than the way the eye saw the scene. But for me the "making" of the image has to be more than choosing from a list of presets but rather using my own creativity to transform the scene.

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Jan 5, 2017 15:08:30   #
BigHal
 
I use PortraitPro and have had good results. Many ladies who are "beyond young" like to see themselves look younger than they are.

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Jan 5, 2017 15:12:23   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Actually, he wrote 5 volumes, originally, that were condensed to 3, but covered the same subject material, The Camera, The Negative, The Print, Natural Light Photography, and Artificial Light Photography. I think the combined texts are now, The Camera, The Negative and Print, and Artificial and Natural Light Photography.

Additionally, other books were published, but not to the extent of instruction that the listed ones were. Those featured more the works of.

Since digital was in its infancy when he passed away, I doubt there is any on your listed topics. If there are, I'd like to read them. Could you please provide some titles?
--Bob
Actually, he wrote 5 volumes, originally, that wer... (show quote)


What's The Print about?

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Jan 5, 2017 15:27:47   #
rcdovala
 
I don't disagree with you. All I'm suggesting is that the presets in Landscape Pro provide an excellent "jumping off" point for self-expression and non-intuitive interpretation and visualization of the final image.

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Jan 5, 2017 15:32:36   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Print.html?id=BGFWGPFQg7oC&source=kp_cover&hl=en
--Bob

TheDman wrote:
What's The Print about?

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Jan 5, 2017 16:19:24   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
rmalarz wrote:
https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Print.html?id=BGFWGPFQg7oC&source=kp_cover&hl=en
--Bob


That didn't give me any details. Haven't you read it?

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Jan 5, 2017 16:35:36   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
It should be evident from the title, as well as the outline what the book is about. From B and H web site, "
In Ansel Adams - The Print: Book 3, Adams shows how the making of a fine print is the culmination of the creative process. His clear and concise technical information starts with the basics and proceeds to the most advanced methods for achieving a fine print.

This text also includes sections on the finishing and display of prints, processing for archival quality, and sensitometry. A chapter on special applications covers high-volume printing, the making of very large prints, and printing for reproduction. Appendices give information on chemical formulas and test data.

Amply illustrated with many of Ansel Adams' most famous photographs, as well as with technical illustrations"..


In what details are you interested?

Oh, as for reading it, yes, I have.
--Bob


TheDman wrote:
That didn't give me any details. Haven't you read it?

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Jan 5, 2017 16:40:54   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Mark1948 wrote:
Earlier today I recieved an email pitch for "Landscape Pro" having never heard of it, & planning on diving into the LR/Photoshop subscription as son as I can get a bit of spare time! I was wondering what the congregation knew/thought about this product. Thanks all...


I don't do a lot of landscapes or post processing beyond very basic stuff like crop, contrast, sharpen, etc., and I don't hold myself out to be the ultimate photographer or post processor but I do like to take short cuts and after many years of tinkering with this stuff, I don't need near the power of Photoshop and Lightroom which are the primary "go to" post packages. About as close to that as I get is owning version 2 of Photoshop Elements to explain my level of interest in post processing. I also like to keep up with what's "out there" so I have LandscapePro as well as PortraitPro, and their first and primary package SmartPhoto, all of which appear on the surface to merely be collections of selectable presets but there is much more depth to the programs than is immediately apparent when you dig through the full capabilities that go well beyond the presets which, by the way, are all adjustable. I would venture to say that if a person who does landscapes began learning LandscapePro and Photoshop at the same time, he/she would be producing highly desirable images with LandscapePro in less than a fraction of the time it would take him/her to learn Photoshop, go through picking out the various aspects, assimilating, and becoming conversational with those features - all the various features that are available in the adjusted presets of LandscapePro to arrive at the same place and produce comparable images as with LandscapePro. Admittedly, there are a bunch of hokie presets in LandscapePro but a person isn't forced to use them without any adjustment.

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Jan 5, 2017 19:47:44   #
rcdovala
 
Thank you. You're critique of Landscape Pro and the use of its built-in presets is absolutely correct. You did a far better job of explaining the situation than I could have done.

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Jan 6, 2017 00:36:47   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
rmalarz wrote:
It should be evident from the title, as well as the outline what the book is about. From B and H web site, "
In Ansel Adams - The Print: Book 3, Adams shows how the making of a fine print is the culmination of the creative process. His clear and concise technical information starts with the basics and proceeds to the most advanced methods for achieving a fine print.

This text also includes sections on the finishing and display of prints, processing for archival quality, and sensitometry. A chapter on special applications covers high-volume printing, the making of very large prints, and printing for reproduction. Appendices give information on chemical formulas and test data.

Amply illustrated with many of Ansel Adams' most famous photographs, as well as with technical illustrations"..


In what details are you interested?

Oh, as for reading it, yes, I have.
--Bob
It should be evident from the title, as well as th... (show quote)


Did it include anything about dodging and burning?

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Jan 6, 2017 03:20:37   #
rcdovala
 
Landscape Pro does not include the ability to dodge and burn in the traditional sense as does Photoshop and Lightroom. Hence, I don't see it as a replacement for either of those two programs or other editing programs such as Photoshop Elements, Paintshop Pro, etc. In my workflow, I tend to use it to set the overall mood or tone of the image, such as fall colors, brewing storm, sunset, backlit sunrise etc. I can manipulate areas of the image such as the sky, the trees, the grass, the buildings, etc. But if I choose to manipulate the trees, I will manipulate all of the items that I have selected to be trees. Notice that I said that I will manipulate all of the items that I have selected to be trees. In a gross way, I can be selective as to which trees I manipulate, As an example, if there is a stand of trees on the left side of the image and a stand of trees on the right side of the image and, furthermore, I only identify the trees on the left as trees and do not identify the trees on the right to be trees, I will only be able to alter the trees on the left side of the image. And within the constraints of Landscape Pro, I can lighten, darken, change color, change saturation etc. using the adjustments and sliders associated with the presets.

If this program piques your interest, I would recommend downloading the free trial and experimenting with it. After installing Landscape Pro, open an image in your editing program (i.e. Photoshop) and select the Landscape Pro plugin from the Filters drop down menu, Once the plugin is running, select the Home button and that will bring up a screen which will allow you to view several tutorials. Be sure to watch these. They are short and will save you a lot of frustration. There are a couple of YouTube videos that are also worth watching so be sure to search for them. Good luck and thank you for reading my post.

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