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Jan 3, 2017 14:09:48   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
tyedyetommy wrote:
In my never ending quest for the perfect photograph, I stumbled across the expodisk. From what I have read, this gizmo is the , you really need this , we ain't joking, go buy this now, kinda thing. I have a Canon 1D Mark lll. I know it's old, it only has 10 mega pixels, it's heavy, it had focus problems. Well, it also is a pro model,that shoots 10 frames a second, in Raw. Mine focus's great. I am not planning on making a billboard size enlargement, and I suggest eating your Wheaties if it is too heavy. I also bought it for 500 dollars, with a less than 9,000 certified shutter count. With a shutter life of 300,000, to my way of thinking it was a great deal. I take pictures, and I have no desire for a camera that does video, so, why pay for a feature I hate. Sorry, I will step off of my soapbox, about the virtues of the 1d, and get back on point. I usually set my white balance to auto and go from there. Most of the time it is good enough. But, in my never ending quest, sometimes good enough, just isn't. Has anyone used a expo disk? what do you think of it? And lastly has anyone used it with the, 1D?
In my never ending quest for the perfect photograp... (show quote)


I have one and I'd recommend it if perfect WB is important to you. If you want to guess at it or select something "sort of white" after the fact then that works too but if you want your colors "the same as they were when I took the shot" then you should get one.

Another costlier way to go is with the Xrite color checker. Perfect color every time.

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Jan 3, 2017 14:10:07   #
Retired fat guy with a camera Loc: Colorado
 
I think I just saved 50 bucks. Thank you all for your advice

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Jan 3, 2017 16:44:16   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
For those having a difficult time setting white balance, try this. It's free except for about a minute added to post ed.

As long as your monitor, (and your eyesight), is calibrated, get the image up on your post program and turn the post's saturation level up to max setting. (do not use the saturation setting on your monitor itself.) From there, manually set the white balance to your likings. After that, turn the saturation level back down to your likings.

That's it!

*I think by using max saturation, it lets you see the colors exaggerated. Any white balance change does or doesn't look normal to you.

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Jan 3, 2017 16:45:26   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
GENorkus wrote:
For those having a difficult time setting white balance, try this. It's free except for about a minute added to post ed.

As long as your monitor, (and your eyesight), is calibrated, get the image up on your monitor and turn the saturation up to max setting. From there, manually set the white balance to your likings. After that, turn the saturation down to your likings.

That's it!

*I think by using max saturation, it lets you see the colors exaggerated. Any white balance change does or doesn't look normal to you.
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Interesting....
Will have to play with that one.

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Jan 3, 2017 17:29:26   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Interesting....
Will have to play with that one.


Lets me know if it works for you as well as for me.

A couple things I noticed when I was playing around and found how to do it this way. I took two different photos that were definitely over done in the first place, one with white balance and one with HDR. *(You remember how newbies love to over do HRD.) After my newly found way, I brought them back to looking normal.

Another thing is that doing it my way, makes it easy to add or subtract a touch of warmth or coolness since it basically starts as completely normal.

It seems to work great for kelvin but is a touch more difficult with the hew settings but still works.

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Jan 3, 2017 20:26:57   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
tyedyetommy wrote:
I think I just saved 50 bucks. Thank you all for your advice


Not really.

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Jan 3, 2017 20:28:34   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
GENorkus wrote:
For those having a difficult time setting white balance, try this. It's free except for about a minute added to post ed.

As long as your monitor, (and your eyesight), is calibrated, get the image up on your post program and turn the post's saturation level up to max setting. (do not use the saturation setting on your monitor itself.) From there, manually set the white balance to your likings. After that, turn the saturation level back down to your likings.

That's it!

*I think by using max saturation, it lets you see the colors exaggerated. Any white balance change does or doesn't look normal to you.
For those having a difficult time setting white ba... (show quote)


If you simply want to guess at color balance, you do not have to go to all this trouble.

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Jan 3, 2017 21:27:29   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
abc1234 wrote:
If you simply want to guess at color balance, you do not have to go to all this trouble.


You say "guess", that's your prerogative. When you have to manually balance three different WB in one image, you might think twice. Maybe I should have said "think three times"? LoL

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Jan 3, 2017 21:56:37   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
GENorkus wrote:
You say "guess", that's your prerogative. When you have to manually balance three different WB in one image, you might think twice. Maybe I should have said "think three times"? LoL


As I have already said, my prerogative is to match the scene's color balance as accurately as possible and then change it if I wish for esthetic reasons. Unless you use some standardized method, you are merely guessing and that is your prerogative. As for three lighting sources with different color temperatures, whether they are blended together or shining on three different parts of the scene determines how you fix the problem. As for your method, LOL (lots of luck).

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Jan 3, 2017 22:31:47   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Well, I'm going to go directly against the pack here. I use an ExpoDisk ALL THE TIME when shooting indoor sporting events and I find it gives me MUCH better results than shooting with AUTO WB or just guessing. I am happy with the device overall, especially for the low price and ease of use. For critical work I would agree that the color checker is better but it might not be faster. Upon occasion I find it near impossible to get a good shot of a target because of time available, other things in the way, etc. I can always use the ExpoDisk. I own a couple of them. Call me silly if you want but they work well in gyms for what I use them for. OK, if it's more complex I pull out the color checker! Best of luck!

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Jan 3, 2017 22:42:39   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
cjc2 wrote:
Well, I'm going to go directly against the pack here. I use an ExpoDisk ALL THE TIME when shooting indoor sporting events and I find it gives me MUCH better results than shooting with AUTO WB or just guessing. I am happy with the device overall, especially for the low price and ease of use. For critical work I would agree that the color checker is better but it might not be faster. Upon occasion I find it near impossible to get a good shot of a target because of time available, other things in the way, etc. I can always use the ExpoDisk. I own a couple of them. Call me silly if you want but they work well in gyms for what I use them for. OK, if it's more complex I pull out the color checker! Best of luck!
Well, I'm going to go directly against the pack he... (show quote)


I think the strength of the ColorChecker is in studio work or on-site fashion work. The ExpoDisc is the practical solution for sports, indoor or out, street work, landscapes or other such settings.

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Jan 3, 2017 22:45:05   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
There are plenty that don't use an ExpoDisk. Why? It only advertises it's use for white balance and that is only half of it's use in reality. If they wanted to the company could also advertise that it is great for creating an LCC. (Lens Cast Correction) ...and with an LCC in use, every image in the similar lighting group that uses it, also automatically deletes all the little dirt particles on the sensor.

If you want quality and precision work my opinion ExpoDisk users should be happy. Use it for; 1 White Balance, 2 Lens Cast Correction, 3 Cleaning the image of Sensor Dirt Particles without having to manually delete each and everyone dirt particle found, (...and what if you miss one of them?).

I realize all this and still don't have one, shame on me!

All that should justify it's cost. Tell that to the company!

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Jan 3, 2017 23:31:47   #
Murray Loc: New Westminster
 
I bought one... it's been sitting in my gear drawer ever since.

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Jan 4, 2017 00:42:37   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Murray wrote:
I bought one... it's been sitting in my gear drawer ever since.


Have to guess that you tried it.
I don't find it particularly useful outside.
Inside, it works well for me for most situations.
What are you using instead?

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Jan 4, 2017 01:09:47   #
Murray Loc: New Westminster
 
I did, but found it time consuming. It worked all right, but I get similar results by adjusting white balance according to the degrees Kelvin chart.

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