do shots taken by canons (camera, not the gun) always need sharpening?
May 29, 2012 17:56:46 #
lachmap
Loc: Sydney Australia
Really loving these discussions guys and girls. So is this true? I have a canon 50d and notice that the shots always need sharpening.
May 29, 2012 18:02:56 #
lachmap wrote:
Really loving these discussions guys and girls. So is this true? I have a canon 50d and notice that the shots always need sharpening.
This is going to bring on some interesting answers. I will go out on a short, thick limb and say, "No." Responses by the experts will include the following: post some pictures and click the "(store original)" box, use a tripod, higher shutter speed, more light, higher ISO, etc.
I look forward to the responses.
May 29, 2012 18:43:53 #
That would depend on a lot of things, not the least of which is the knowledge of the operator. I know one Canon shooter who got so ticked off at soft images from his Canon that he sold everything he had and bought Nikon. Did his pictures improve? Not in the least. He is still shooting Nikon, and after 2 years of cussing it he finally bought some recommended books and took a photo course, and his images have improved drastically!
May 29, 2012 20:03:04 #
lachmap
Loc: Sydney Australia
So in other other words it's caused by the nut touching the button LOL. I thought as much.
May 29, 2012 20:15:16 #
"Sharpness" is a digital control, not to be confused with accurate focus. Sharpness really concerns pixel contrast at edge of color changes: gradual or abrupt. Every camera is pre-programed with a certain amount of image softening, which can be reset by camera operator. Read your manual to find programing. Your choice is usually 1 to 5, usually preset at 3.
"Sharpness" in Post Processing is similar, but with a much more gradual scale. In Picnik, the scale is 1 to 40.
"Sharpness" in Post Processing is similar, but with a much more gradual scale. In Picnik, the scale is 1 to 40.
May 29, 2012 20:39:11 #
May 29, 2012 20:55:21 #
As a very broad statement, the design of digital cameras means that every image will benefit from at least some minimal sharpening. The low-pass filter that sits just before the image sensor is there to mitigate the moire pattern that can occur when fine detail in the image interacts with the Bayer pattern layout on the sensor itself. The new Nikon D800e is an option that eliminates that filter and comes with a warning that while it can deliver a sharper image, it will increase the probability of moire in the image.
Now, does that mean an image that has not been sharpened is soft? No, but it might be just a bit better with at least a little sharpening.
Probably more than you want to know.
Now, does that mean an image that has not been sharpened is soft? No, but it might be just a bit better with at least a little sharpening.
Probably more than you want to know.
May 29, 2012 21:06:27 #
the smart alec in me would tell you, yes all photos shot by a canon needs lots of post processing to look as good as those shot by a nikon straight out of the camera! lol the reality is the good captains answer was right on the money, and can not be improved.
May 29, 2012 21:37:35 #
lachmap
Loc: Sydney Australia
Thanks guys. If only I could sneak away from the mrs to learn all this and try it out!!!!! She would rather I sit and watch movies with her or do our income tax stuff!!!!!!!!!
I had actually set the camera to make it sharper which has helped. But what I see now is that I need a more steady hand, tripod etc.
I had actually set the camera to make it sharper which has helped. But what I see now is that I need a more steady hand, tripod etc.
May 29, 2012 21:49:43 #
I found that if I sharpen the pics I take with my 50D they seem to get worse so I never do it.
May 29, 2012 21:57:25 #
BigBear wrote:
I found that if I sharpen the pics I take with my 50D they seem to get worse so I never do it.
Then you over-sharpened. A common mistake. To judge sharpening, you need to view the image at a minimum of 50% and better yet at 100%.
May 29, 2012 22:00:23 #
CaptainC wrote:
Then you over-sharpened. A common mistake. To judge sharpening, you need to view the image at a minimum of 50% and better yet at 100%.
BigBear wrote:
I found that if I sharpen the pics I take with my 50D they seem to get worse so I never do it.
Then you over-sharpened. A common mistake. To judge sharpening, you need to view the image at a minimum of 50% and better yet at 100%.
I will have to play with them a bit more and see what I'm doing.
Thank You Sir !!
May 29, 2012 22:02:44 #
MT Shooter wrote:
That would depend on a lot of things, not the least of which is the knowledge of the operator. I know one Canon shooter who got so ticked off at soft images from his Canon that he sold everything he had and bought Nikon. Did his pictures improve? Not in the least. He is still shooting Nikon, and after 2 years of cussing it he finally bought some recommended books and took a photo course, and his images have improved drastically!
That is hysterical!
May 29, 2012 22:13:38 #
May 29, 2012 22:15:37 #
CaptainC wrote:
On my Post Processing "Sharpness" scale of 1 to 40, I usually sharpen about 17, never over 20 (50% of scale).BigBear wrote:
Then you over-sharpened. A common mistake. To judge sharpening, you need to view the image at a minimum of 50% and better yet at 100%.I found that if I sharpen the pics I take with my 50D they seem to get worse so I never do it.
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