Two things - one a biggie and one a smallie
Dec 22, 2016 21:09:03 #
The biggie: MERRY CHRISTMAS - HAPPY NEW YEAR
The smallie: I have determined that 2017 will be the year of NARROW BAND. I have pried the DSLR's from my hands and will spend the next 12 months shooting a mono CCD camera - LRGB and Narrow Band. I have not mastered anything but feel the need to kick the dust of the CCD and have at it.
Back to the biggie: I hope each "hog" can rejoice in this season with your families - kick back and be merry!
The smallie: I have determined that 2017 will be the year of NARROW BAND. I have pried the DSLR's from my hands and will spend the next 12 months shooting a mono CCD camera - LRGB and Narrow Band. I have not mastered anything but feel the need to kick the dust of the CCD and have at it.
Back to the biggie: I hope each "hog" can rejoice in this season with your families - kick back and be merry!
Dec 22, 2016 22:00:58 #
I wish you great success with that mono CCD. I want to get into that myself this year, and hoping that I am able to retire by the end of January so I have time to shoot up. Its a really clear night tonight, and I just had to get outside tonight and shoot something. Took the easy route tonight. Using the Sony A6300 with the Tokina 300mm f2.8. Not too cold either. First opportunity in almost 2 months.
What CCD are you using?
Good luck.
What CCD are you using?
Good luck.
Dec 22, 2016 22:06:26 #
I will be using two cameras one is an Atik460ex and the other is a CMOS sensor camera that is getting a lot of positive news made by ZWO Optical....the ASI1600MM-Cool. It is a 4/3rds camera 16 megapixel. I have an Atik filterwheel that works great with this camera and my first few experiences have been very very impressive. So between the two....I hope to get some decent new colors in narrow band. When it comes to RGB, I don't think I can improve on the Nikon.....and I love my DSLR nights. Go on to Astrobin and look at some of the images taken....just do a search using
ASI1600MM-cool
Retirement! YEA! I will be starting a 3 day basketball tournament on Dec 28,29,30 - I do this every year.....8 games a day for three days. ..and my schedule picks up at a fast pace until school is out. So my available nights to shoot will be few and far between.
ASI1600MM-cool
Retirement! YEA! I will be starting a 3 day basketball tournament on Dec 28,29,30 - I do this every year.....8 games a day for three days. ..and my schedule picks up at a fast pace until school is out. So my available nights to shoot will be few and far between.
Dec 22, 2016 22:37:39 #
nikonshooter wrote:
I will be using two cameras one is an Atik460ex an... (show quote)
A lot of good reviews on that Atik 460ex!
Dec 22, 2016 22:58:56 #
I comparing images taken by the 460ex and the ASI camera on Astrobin.....I have to give the nod to the ASI. ...and it is a fraction of the price.
Dec 23, 2016 10:00:00 #
Good look with the new...have you checked out the download time...mine is nearly 30 seconds, it's not bad if you can set it off and come back to it later, but it's a lot of time, especially when you need to cycle thru all of the filters.
Given the downside to filters, it's amazing when you can start doing the Hubble pallet and get those amazing color images. Maybe some day I can get to that setup.
Wishing all a Merry Christmas and happy new year.
Given the downside to filters, it's amazing when you can start doing the Hubble pallet and get those amazing color images. Maybe some day I can get to that setup.
Wishing all a Merry Christmas and happy new year.
Dec 23, 2016 11:15:02 #
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year back, and all around. Spike the Nog!
Given your prior examples you have posted Ed, I have very high expectations of excellence.
I'm sure you won't disappoint either. But that's what you get for having set the bar so high.
There is a LOT of buzz around the 1600, all seems to be good. It has a 1000 second exposure limit, but for stacking that should be a big enough window. (16.66 minutes is a long guide!)
I'm still optimistic that one day CMOS will surpass CCD in imaging. But I wonder if I will ever see that. I'm encouraged by the cooled CMOS peppering the field of cameras.
Is your Filter Wheel an electronic one? I've read where some have faced difficulties because of a 5 filter wheel, and wanting to use more than 5 filters doing RGBL & NB. Of course, to every problem, there is a $olution. Sans vignetting of 1.25" filters...
Quick Link to Astro bin images.
Looking forward to your findings.
Given your prior examples you have posted Ed, I have very high expectations of excellence.
I'm sure you won't disappoint either. But that's what you get for having set the bar so high.There is a LOT of buzz around the 1600, all seems to be good. It has a 1000 second exposure limit, but for stacking that should be a big enough window. (16.66 minutes is a long guide!)
I'm still optimistic that one day CMOS will surpass CCD in imaging. But I wonder if I will ever see that. I'm encouraged by the cooled CMOS peppering the field of cameras.
Is your Filter Wheel an electronic one? I've read where some have faced difficulties because of a 5 filter wheel, and wanting to use more than 5 filters doing RGBL & NB. Of course, to every problem, there is a $olution. Sans vignetting of 1.25" filters...
Quick Link to Astro bin images.
Looking forward to your findings.
Dec 23, 2016 11:17:30 #
nikonshooter wrote:
I comparing images taken by the 460ex and the ASI camera on Astrobin.....I have to give the nod to the ASI. ...and it is a fraction of the price.
In looking at the ZWO ASI 178, (you didn't mention which model), I see that it is not exactly an apples to apples comparison. The pixel size is 2.4um compared to the Atik 460ex of 4.54um with the 460ex having a larger sensor. The ZWO ASI 178 is basically a video camera.
http://www.highpointscientific.com/zwo-asi178mm-cooled-monochrome-imaging-camera-asi178mm-cool?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=ZWO-ASI178mm-Cool&gclid=CMOms4DZitECFRC1wAodmAEBnQ
http://www.cloudynights.com/topic/524035-first-light-with-the-zwo-asi178mm-cool/
And here is the Atik 460ex
http://www.highpointscientific.com/atik-460ex-color-ccd-camera-w-sony-icx694-sensor-atk0101?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=ATK-ATK0101&gclid=CK7M2NHZitECFZC1wAodmDAEbw
https://stargazerslounge.com/topic/162761-atik-460-mono-ccd/
My gift to myself for having to work for 10 months longer than I had planned to starting last March when I first tried to retire is that I will be getting the Atik 460ex and the Hyperstar for my Celestron 9.25" Evolution. That will make it 540mm at f2.4.
Dec 23, 2016 14:48:17 #
Adding a comparison of the Atik 460EX and 490EX -- seems to conclude that the 460EX is the better route unless you really need finer resolution. But the 460EX is lower noise and bigger pixels meaning longer exposures without over blowing bright areas and better sensitivity.
https://www.firstlightoptics.com/blog/atik-460ex-v-atik-490ex.html
https://www.firstlightoptics.com/blog/atik-460ex-v-atik-490ex.html
Dec 23, 2016 18:40:32 #
nikonshooter wrote:
The biggie: MERRY CHRISTMAS - HAPPY NEW YEAR
The smallie: I have determined that 2017 will be the year of NARROW BAND. I have pried the DSLR's from my hands and will spend the next 12 months shooting a mono CCD camera - LRGB and Narrow Band. I have not mastered anything but feel the need to kick the dust of the CCD and have at it.
Back to the biggie: I hope each "hog" can rejoice in this season with your families - kick back and be merry!
The smallie: I have determined that 2017 will be the year of NARROW BAND. I have pried the DSLR's from my hands and will spend the next 12 months shooting a mono CCD camera - LRGB and Narrow Band. I have not mastered anything but feel the need to kick the dust of the CCD and have at it.
Back to the biggie: I hope each "hog" can rejoice in this season with your families - kick back and be merry!
You're in for a learning experience. Not so much new with capture BUT processing is a definitely new experience (and can be rather frustrating initially; don't give up). I use ImagesPlus, PixInsight, Lightroom and Photoshop for processing. What is your software of choice?
I've had a mono ATIK 428Ex for quite a while and just received a mono ATIK Infinity this afternoon, and use both with an ATIK nine position filterwheel.
Don't pass up LRGB for solely Narrow Band. LRGB with a mono camera is superb; pretty much beats any color camera.
Have fun! And Merry Christmas
bwa
Dec 23, 2016 19:02:44 #
bwana wrote:
You're in for a learning experience. Not so much ... (show quote)
Looking forward to seeing a few posts from your new Infinity. I did have some learning curve with it, and have gotten better with practice. Be sure to update the Infinity SW to the very latest. Its been rev'd about 4 times in the past year and each time gets a little better. Currently, the OSC results are too yellow and they are working on that, but with your mono, you won't have that issue. I hope to jump into mono imaging soon. But OSC does have its place too.
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