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Dec 22, 2016 13:15:04   #
stenojj
 
fjrwillie wrote:
on AF points. Out of all 19 focus points your camera has, at the time of capturing the image the camera only uses 1 of them. So if you have 53 focus points only 1 is used at the point of capture. Some one made a comment about using the center focus point, which is what many of us are doing. Whether to use only center point focus or the 19 you have is dependent on what you are trying to capture.

On battery life ...buy extra batteries and make sure you take them with you.

Burst rate...if you have NOT exceeded the capacity of your camera I wouldn't upgrade for this reason. You will know when it is time to upgrade for this reason.

Hope this helps
Willie
on AF points. Out of all 19 focus points your came... (show quote)


All this information helps tremendously. In the end, I have decided to keep my T6s and learn it to its capacity before moving on. THANK YOU!

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Dec 22, 2016 13:26:34   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
stenojj wrote:
Thanks for your input. I didn't think it was "really" an upgrade, just a few added features that probably wouldn't justify the extra cost for a beginner. I use single focus all the time unless I'm in a situation where I'm not sure and at that time I "might" switch it into auto mode just so I don't miss the shot. I have a lot of money tied up in lenses "just because" I wanted them.


jj, you're still pretty new here, so welcome.
To want more and more camera is just human. Most don't need the camera they have but they get them anyway. So you might as well get yours too! The best way to talk people out of upgrading is to first upgrade yourself that way you'll be pretty sure no one else really needs to.
IF you don't upgrade, you will eventually explode in a big ball of GAS. In the meantime, you will be miserable!!
If you do upgrade, DON'T, DON'T keep the old camera. Some call them back-ups but they are really more appropriately known as DOOR-STOPS! You simply don't need one unless you shoot weddings professionally. If your camera were to break down while out shooting and you are in no danger of being sued because of it, then you'll have a nice DOOR-STOP.
The big difference between the 6 and the 80 is the focus system. Start to learn to use the different focus points and you'll be glad you upgraded. Then you'll be shooting like an intermediate!!!
jj, get the 80 and don't look back. There's nothing more painful than a GAS embolism and little more satisfying than a new camera....., except maybe a great big WHITE LENS!!!
SS

PS, two things are for sure, your kids don't deserve it and you can't take it with you!!! LoL

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Dec 22, 2016 13:38:13   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Someone said the T6s and the 80D have the same image sensor, they most definitely don't. They are both 24.2 effective megapixels but they are not the same sensors. One difference is, the pixels on the 80D sensor are larger. The 80D also incorporated Canon's dual pixel AF technology, the Rebel does not.
The T6s is the flagship of the Rebel line but it's technologically somewhere between the 70D and the 80D; they both use the newer DIGIC 6 processor. The only real advantages the T6s has over the 80D is it's JPEG buffer is larger and it costs less. The 80D is hands down a superior camera.

It's your money, spend it as you will and don't let anyone else, except maybe a significant other, dictate how you spend your money. If you are happy with the T6s then pick up a good book and learn how to use it better. If you really want the 80D, go for it, you won't be disappointed. But, as I previously stated, pick up a good book or two written specifically about the 80D, read it and learn how to really get the most out of the camera...

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Dec 22, 2016 13:38:21   #
Whuff Loc: Marshalltown, Iowa
 
Keep the T6s, shoot, shoot, shoot and learn its capabilities and limitations. After learning the camera inside & out you will know what you need that this one doesn't provide.

Walt

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Dec 22, 2016 14:01:51   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
It is rather stupid to start a question with stupid.

It implies that you are trying to get empathy from a few and nothing else.

Sorry, don't buy it, did not even read the question, don't care.

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Dec 22, 2016 14:10:18   #
stenojj
 
Rongnongno wrote:
It is rather stupid to start a question with stupid.

It implies that you are trying to get empathy from a few and nothing else.

Sorry, don't buy it, did not even read the question, don't care.


Why did you even click on the question and respond? I find that very inconsiderate. I guess you have never been a beginner. How does one learn without asking questions? Isn't that what this forum is all about? How rude!

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Dec 22, 2016 14:22:20   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
stenojj wrote:
Last March I purchased a Canon Rebel T6s, which I really like. I am basically a true beginner hobbyist. I wished I had done more research on the camera before I purchased (I had no idea there were so many options) and am now wondering if I should update to the 80D? I'm not interested in a full frame camera. I have 5 lenses for the crop sensor. Would it be worth upgrading for the few differences like more burst photos, better video, longer battery life, and more AF points? I was going to go try one out tomorrow at a local camera shop and also see if he will give me some money off for a trade-in. Or should I just keep my T6s. Any tips or comments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Last March I purchased a Canon Rebel T6s, which I ... (show quote)


You are just learning. Do you need an 80D? Besides the more comprehensive pro-like controls the only main difference is weather sealing (do you shoot in the rain?) and the AF system, which is very good.

What lenses do you have? Off camera flash? Tripod, etc? What kind of photos do you take? You might be better off keeping the T6s and getting a lens, or buy nothing new and learn what you have to the point where the equipment is restricting you.

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Dec 22, 2016 14:29:08   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Rongnongno wrote:
It is rather stupid to start a question with stupid.

It implies that you are trying to get empathy from a few and nothing else.

Sorry, don't buy it, did not even read the question, don't care.


It is rather stupid to spend a lot of your time posting insults and put downs about people whose only problem is they are beginners to photography, the UHH or both. And ignorant of many things.
I suppose you were born knowing everything about everything!
Didn't even read the question, how intelligent!

Is your attitude a natural talent or did you have to learn it?

Yes, I am not in a tolerant mood to those with bad manners and attitude today.

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Dec 22, 2016 14:30:06   #
stenojj
 
robertjerl wrote:
You are just learning. Do you need an 80D? Besides the more comprehensive pro-like controls the only main difference is weather sealing (do you shoot in the rain?) and the AF system, which is very good.

What lenses do you have? Off camera flash? Tripod, etc? What kind of photos do you take? You might be better off keeping the T6s and getting a lens, or buy nothing new and learn what you have to the point where the equipment is restricting you.


I "sort of" went crazy when I got the camera. I have two prime lenses - a 24 mm 2.8 and a 50 mm 1.8. I also have an 18-135 kit lens, a 55-250, a 70-300, and the contemporary 150-600. No off camera flash. I have a pistol-grip tripod. I also have a battery grip with 2 batteries and a wired remote plus I use my smart phone as a remote shutter when needed.

I like to shoot nature as we live in the middle of 70 acres out in the country so have a lot of opportunity to shoot wildlife.

I just thought maybe the 80D would offer more options than the T6s. I don't "need" the 80D, just "wanted" it because of it's newer technology. I don't need it to be weather-proof.

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Dec 22, 2016 14:36:26   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
robertjerl wrote:
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Consider that the title contains only 'stupid question' and nothing about the subject that is at stake.

You maybe a bear but you are the one who is not grouchy enough to tell folks that a descriptive title is what the admin recommends at all times.

Same goes for 'help!' or 'What do I do?'

If we all stop to be tolerant for this kind of stuff the site would improve quite a bit.

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Dec 22, 2016 14:38:58   #
stenojj
 
robertjerl wrote:
It is rather stupid to spend a lot of your time posting insults and put downs about people whose only problem is they are beginners to photography, the UHH or both. And ignorant of many things.
I suppose you were born knowing everything about everything!
Didn't even read the question, how intelligent!

Is your attitude a natural talent or did you have to learn it?

Yes, I am not in a tolerant mood to those with bad manners and attitude today.


Thank you robertjerl for commenting. After reading that comment, I thought maybe I better not ask any more questions with responses like that. Maybe this forum isn't for me if I'm asking "stupid" questions.

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Dec 22, 2016 14:50:38   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
stenojj wrote:
Thank you robertjerl for commenting. After reading that comment, I thought maybe I better not ask any more questions with responses like that. Maybe this forum isn't for me if I'm asking "stupid" questions.


I am a retired classroom teacher. The only "stupid" involved with questions are probably the ones that weren't asked for fear of sounding stupid. However, he has one point - better titles for posts do help.
It is his attitude that is the problem and the fact he spends a LOT of time doing this kind of thing.

We are all ignorant, depends on the subject being discussed.

Ignorant is not a crime and is curable. Not curing it might be a crime, or at least a stupid thing to do(not do).

Stupid is a way of acting, the most intelligent can be stupid at times. I know I have a talent for being stupid at times.

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Dec 22, 2016 15:02:59   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
stenojj wrote:
I "sort of" went crazy when I got the camera. I have two prime lenses - a 24 mm 2.8 and a 50 mm 1.8. I also have an 18-135 kit lens, a 55-250, a 70-300, and the contemporary 150-600. No off camera flash. I have a pistol-grip tripod. I also have a battery grip with 2 batteries and a wired remote plus I use my smart phone as a remote shutter when needed.

I like to shoot nature as we live in the middle of 70 acres out in the country so have a lot of opportunity to shoot wildlife.

I just thought maybe the 80D would offer more options than the T6s. I don't "need" the 80D, just "wanted" it because of it's newer technology. I don't need it to be weather-proof.
I "sort of" went crazy when I got the ca... (show quote)


Wanting OK, if $ is no problem than get the 80D and keep the T6s as a second/backup camera. My old co-worker Murphy says if you only have one of something it will break at the absolute worst possible moment in all of history.

Good lens assortment, the 55-250 is somewhat redundant. No Macro lens, I have really gotten into macro lately and now feel a macro lens is necessary, they also make good portrait lenses. For that 150-600 and wildlife/birds you might find a "gimbal head" a great choice. I use the NEST which I got from MT Shooter here on the UHH. http://www.cameracottage.com/ then click on equipment at the top. He is the US distributor for the NEST. I also have a NEST tripod, among others.

I have to go to my monthly camera club meeting, I'll check back on this afterwards.

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Dec 22, 2016 15:11:14   #
Spudwheat Loc: South Central Idaho
 
If you are a true "beginner hobbyist" then you probably have much to learn about composition and technical execution. The camera that you have is extremely capable of enabling you to learn and master the basics. I would stick the landing for now, as the camera you are considering most likely will be overwhelming for a beginner, AND when you do decide, if you really want that one it may be less expensive. I would focus on learning all of the technical facets inside and out, then a more advanced camera will not seem as daunting. Composition is a true feel and eye that you can develop, fortunately digital photography makes this a very inexpensive lesson once you make the initial investment. Remember, even the most insufficient tool can work miracles in the hands of a master...

It seems to me that you're having a little "buyer's remorse" which is common. (Trust me, I know this feeling well. Through years of "therapy" I have learned to stick the landing.) Move on, have fun with your camera and make yourself the best at your new found hobby.

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Dec 22, 2016 15:14:21   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
If you're really a beginner, stick with what you've got. A friend of mine and UHH member has shot with different series of the Canon t camera, but with primarily a 100-400L lens, currently the second version of that lens, and she produces excellent photos. Think more about the lens that you're shooting with than the camera.....and the time you put in with them. Judy spends hours and hours shooting wildlife, and the experience she has gained over the past five years is showing. She recently won Best in Show at the Bear River Migratory Bird Refuge photographic show.

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